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Sqrt

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Oct 26, 2017
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Time said:
The United Nations climate change conference underway here in Poland could play a critical role in the fight to stem greenhouse gas emissions and keep temperatures from rising to unsafe levels.


The Trump Administration showed up to pitch fossil fuels. In a closely watched event Monday on the sidelines of official negotiations, U.S. officials touted natural gas and argued in support of coal's place in the electricity mix.


"It is important to the overall climate discussion that we consider what's realistic and pragmatic," P. Wells Griffith, special assistant to the president for international energy and environment, told the crowd "Energy innovation and fossil fuels will continue to play a leading role."


Coal, of course, contributes more to greenhouse gases on a unit-per-unit basis than any other electricity source and reducing its role is considered a top priority for scientists who want to address global warming. And climate scientists, along with governments in the vast majority of countries, agree that now is the time to sound the alarm on climate change.

"The U.S. government has one side event that just further erodes their credibility and they know it," says Lou Leonard, SVP for climate change and energy at WWF.


This is the second annual U.N. climate conference — officially known as the Conference of the Parties — to take place after President Donald Trump took office last year and promised to pull the U.S. out of the Paris Agreement, the landmark 2015 deal in which countries voluntarily committed to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions. Trump's decision to exit the deal cannot legally take effect until after the 2020 presidential election, and the Trump Administration is free to participate in negotiations as it sees fit in the meantime. (It's also the second year in a row that the Administration has sought to promote fossil fuels on the sidelines of the annual U.N. climate conference).

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Update: Video (thanks Tempy )



No shame!?
 
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donkey

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Oct 24, 2017
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adj_noun

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Oct 25, 2017
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Well, at least they were promoting the active engagement in outdoor activities.

Because whenever a Trump admin official hears the word coal, they always pitch a tent.
 

Ithil

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Oct 25, 2017
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Nothing says "realistic and pragmatic" like a dying, shrinking industry that has to be subsidized to survive, and employs a tiny percentage of the US workforce in a small area of the country.
 

Daphne

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Oct 27, 2017
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No shame but it's also because they're corrupt. Trump and his administration, and most of the GOP, are representatives of the fossil fuel industry. They have very strong and numerous business ties to that industry. They do not represent the American people in these matters. They are there to make money and fuck anyone else and the environment. We're electing the wolves to decide how to manage the sheep. It's the same with the current Australian government. They are bought and sold. It's utter corruption.
 

LosDaddie

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Oct 25, 2017
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Not that really care about the world's opinion, that video made me laugh.

Just straight clowned the dude
 

Tempy

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Oct 25, 2017
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No shame but it's also because they're corrupt. Trump and his administration, and most of the GOP, are representatives of the fossil fuel industry. They have very strong and numerous business ties to that industry. They do not represent the American people in these matters. They are there to make money and fuck anyone else and the environment. We're electing the wolves to decide how to manage the sheep. It's the same with the current Australian government. They are bought and sold. It's utter corruption.

I don't understand how this is all legal and not considered blatant corruption like in most countries. Politicians have a good salary and their costs are reimbursed. Any money from corporations is just corruption and makes them serve the interests of those corporations instead of the populace.
 

Youngfossil

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Oct 27, 2017
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I don't understand how this is all legal and not considered blatant corruption like in most countries. Politicians have a good salary and their costs are reimbursed. Any money from corporations is just corruption and makes them serve the interests of those corporations instead of the populace.
"Donations"

No its BS, its been BS for a long time and the only people that can change it are the ones getting paid. Jesus its fucking sad
 

Marengo

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Oct 28, 2017
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From a Reuters article yesterday;

Jan Erik Saugestad, chief executive of Storebrand Asset Management, a Norwegian fund with $85 billion of assets under management, said: "Investors are not going to be sold fake news on coal which seeks to mask the rapid decline of the U.S. coal industry and disregards the solar and wind growth markets."

Hilarious.
 

Shaneus

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Oct 27, 2017
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Is Australia there too? Sounds like our PM would fit right in, this is him (before he was PM) in actual parliament:
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Oct 25, 2017
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From a Reuters article yesterday;

Jan Erik Saugestad, chief executive of Storebrand Asset Management, a Norwegian fund with $85 billion of assets under management, said: "Investors are not going to be sold fake news on coal which seeks to mask the rapid decline of the U.S. coal industry and disregards the solar and wind growth markets."

Hilarious.

This is the sad reality of his whole jobs shit. If he just recognize that we could be building and constructing these in the US all these coal folks could have jobs again.
 

Deleted member 48897

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Oct 22, 2018
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Just a quick little reminder that "clean coal" refers to the ability to use scrubbers to prevent the sulfur in extracted coal from aerosolizing, not from preventing carbon release from the coal itself. And of course this is beyond the fact that a lot of the sulfur in coal deposits goes into the environment from runoff as a result of the main ways that coal extraction is done (i.e., removing the tops from hills)
 

Version 3.0

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Oct 27, 2017
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I swear, by the end of Trump's term, cigarette companies will be allowed to advertise the health benefits of smoking.