The person was an lead engineer at Epic.
Well, the plot thickens. Now the video is removed. Seems like the person wasn't allowed to say what he said.
Are we really believing that an lead engine engineer doesn't know the difference between playing a video and running something in real-time? Is this some kind of bad joke?
Don't ask P40L0 for evidence of anything he claims, that's not his style.
As a quick reminder, if you Limit your fps based solely on the slowest component (the ssd in the ps5 is tragically slow compared to the RAM it has) - then you are designing something which scales incredibly poorly. I do not think Epic is in the Business of making an engine which scales its Brand new visual features hard and solely on the slowest subsystem in computers.
So he said it was video stream. You are still ignoring that demo could scale to other platforms it doesn't mean every setting is going to be the same or run the same because of it.
Quite! Well said. As I said before, it seems that computational ability has disappeared from the equation for some people. The only thing holding back better graphics now is SSD bandwidth, and you get to shade millions of subpixel polygons for absolute free as long as you can fetch the data fast enough. :)
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It's got a long while till it releases tho (and this was on an early dev kit), so those streaming issues should be resolved right?
We don't yet know that this is an 'issue' that needs to be 'resolved'. Perhaps this is working as intended for whatever it is that Nanite is doing? Much like how "Cherno" pointed out that it looks as though they could be using lighting bounce calculations from previous frames to update indirect lighting. Then the lighting taking a few ms to update wouldn't be an 'issue' to be resolved, it would just be how the solution works. Put bluntly, there seems to be a lot of speculation and not enough concrete information. :)
Right, in the same way that well-known issues with screen space reflections will 'go away' with certain kinds of ray traced solutions. You can't get rid of them just by throwing more and more floating point operations per second at the screen space solution, because they're just part of how that solution works.
There's no "Agenda" or other Illuminati-like conspiracy crap.
He's not answering because it's forcing him to make comparisons to both consoles. Tim is pretty much playing both sides of the fence here.
If you connect the dots every thing makes sense
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How big of an install is Star Citizen? Things are getting crazy already, the new Call of Duty I heard is 200gb. Maybe the future is streaming after all lol, that PS5 SSD is pretty small now isn't it?Some of the arguments in here is missing the forest for the trees.
The quality seen in this tech demo is most probably impossible for game development. It's a short slice that's probably around 400GB in size, but why did they do it?
Simply put, it's not only to showcase what the engine can do to help devs, but also market the engine for film/TV production, like what they did for The Mandalorian and Rogue One. That's where you need those film quality assets.
ILM reveals how it used Unreal Engine for ‘The Mandalorian’
ILM used Epic Games' Unreal Engine to create virtual sets for 'The Mandalorian.' This enables filmmakers to capture visual effects in camera.
Games will use lower quality assets. The engine will run very well on both next gen consoles due to this regard. Stop trying to get PR to force-feed you what you want to know and think for a change.
In a decade? Maybe. The online architecture is still not there. This coronavirus situation shows how fragile it is.
Are you sure about this claim? It's not clear to me how doubling the SSD bandwidth over the nearest competitor results in a 5-30x performance increase in this manner! :)
I agree.
I don't think Dictator made any such certain claim! Unlike some he actually seems to be respecting what we don't know about the technology instead of imagining what we don't know confirms what we already hope. :)
Good because things are getting kind of crazy now. Hitman 2 on PC is 150GB.
OK, so not too bad then.
It's not just speed, latency is important factor
Tone it down. System wars doesn't usually bother me (I find it mildly entertaining), but when I'm trying to find concrete information on a given subject, people posting guesses/assumptions as fact is very annoying.
It's wishful thinking indeed to imagine that any kind of perceived preferential treatment wont incur forensic examination and show trialling by fans of the other box. :)
Thank you for proving my point! He sticks to what was said, that Nanite and Lumen scale with compute capability (there's no such thing as a free lunch, afterall!), and that it would be odd to build an engine that's FPS limited by IO bandwidth. He has not said that the engine 'scales much more strongly with compute than IO bandwidth', because we don't know either way! :)
The two Dictator's posts talk by themselves, I really don't think there's much interpretation left.
You are giving an interpretion of them that is not present in the original posts. We don't have a technical breakdown of how this technology works and until we do we can't be more sure of the situation than what Epic have told us! :)
