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'Tim Sweeney implies that due to the EGS, Valve implemented new features and HL:A'
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This is a typical Sweeney tweet and the implication is clear. He's intentionally conflating recent Steam improvements and Half-Life: Alyx with EGS existing to try and justify his store's place in a market he's buying his way into and trying to monopolise.
This "multi-store future" stuff he's spewing is a steaming pile of crap. In another related tweet he even has to do mental gymnastics to pretend GOG didn't exist until 2.0 to justify his bullshit.
PC gaming has only gotten worse since Epic inserted itself into it.
This "multi-store future" stuff he's spewing is a steaming pile of crap. In another related tweet he even has to do mental gymnastics to pretend GOG didn't exist until 2.0 to justify his bullshit.
PC gaming has only gotten worse since Epic inserted itself into it.
seriously. are people reading this as him taking credit for Gamepass too? ridiculous
User warned: thread whining and backseat moderation
Tired of these kind of threads, people grasping at nothing. I don't like Sweeney, but that's not what he's saying. Lock it, remove this.
No you have it all wrong. It's bitch eating crackers.jpeg.
I'll simplify it. Tim Sweeney and EGS good. Steam fanboys and hate boners bad. Context is irrelevant! 🙄
I'm no fan of EGS nor do I ever plan to buy any games from them. (I don't play a lot of PC games these days and I'm fine limiting myself to Steam).
However, I don't see how he is implying what the OP says he is.
He's simply saying that competition is good these days for PC.
He's not really saying anything we don't know, but haters going to hate.
However, I don't see how he is implying what the OP says he is.
He's simply saying that competition is good these days for PC.
He's not really saying anything we don't know, but haters going to hate.
The only new competition in the last year is... Epic with a subpar experience.
Now Valve has Alyx and new features because both are literally things that happened now. Agree or not, he's pointing out that competition and innovation are good things because they bring good things. Valve are doing both. It doesn't escape to no one that a big reason why Alyx exists is to make Index and VR in general more viable and increase the number of users with headsets.
I don't feel any particular way about the guy, but the takes here are ridiculous. It is indeed idiotic to suggest he's responsible for both Alyx and the new Steam client, but get what, he never did that.
We literally had a mod explain everything on page one and folks are still being obtuse lol
Due to the thread title change, are we now trying to imply that Tim Sweeny thinks game dev takes less than a year for something like HL Alyx?
The fact that some people don't understand the concept of context is the embarrassing thing.
His past tweets make it very clear he is implying these good things are happening because of EGS.
Funny how no one actually refuted her argument and just said 'no it isn't' ?
Like that is an actual argument?
What a tool. Still not buying anything on the tencent store, it's been really easy to ignore so far.
no no no apparently considering some of a person past statements when they something sketch is bad and wrong (somehow)
This board in a nutshell. I could go the rest of my life without hearing about Tim and the EGS ever again. You guys hate them with a passion. We get it. So why the constant threads to shit on each and every single one of his tweets. I don't get the obsessive following of his social media, but get this, you are the only ones that care.
Like, seriously, as long as he isn't literally responsible for anything happening to my Steam account, I don't give two shits about what he tweeted over breakfast.
uh, because it's the first game they've made that anyone gives a shit about in a decade?
And?
Dude's entire talking point has been "Competition will improve everyone.".
There is competition.
Everyone is improving.
Why wouldn't he post about that?
Using a prior behaviors and actions to create a new context and assume current behavior is arguing based on subjectivity. I know it's difficult to perceive things without being slanted by emotions since we are human, but at the very least it should be attempted.
You're right, there was never competition before EGS arrived or even a chunk of time before that store popped up. No Origin, no GOG, no itchi.io, no Humble, no Windows 10 store, no Uplay, no Battle.net. Nothing.
The only difference you're seeing now before then is because other companies are pulling their games off other stores for their own launchers, offering better deals like subscription based tiers or making exclusivity deals. Now whether it's helping the PC gaming landscape is still too early to tell.
So you believe that they rushed to make the game in less than a year cause of EGS?
Please tell me I understood wrong.
I wasn't aware that Dota 2 had been such a failure. I guess getting 600k concurrent users on average is a bad number.
... Yes, yes, I *LOVE* the idea of timed exclusives for game stores on the PC platform. It's absolutely wonderful to wait 6 months to play a game because I don't want your particular launcher. Indeed. Nobody ever complained about timed exclusives -- they're only a good thing.
We agree on what he's pointing out.
"Now Alyx exists" is a factually correct statement. "Competition and innovation are good" are absolutely the thrust of his arguments.
What I think people are reacting to is the way he's tying those two things together in the larger narrative of "competition now versus a year ago", a time period clearly chosen based on EGS' entry into the market.
Yes, it's factually correct to say "Alyx is announced now" when it wasn't before, but in the larger context of the argument he's making it looks like nothing more than an amateurish post hoc ergo prompter hoc fallacy: afterwards, therefore because of.
Oh no, not Tencent!
yeah, like, if he really sucks and his store is garbage, why is this board so obsesive about what he says?
The punchline: they have. Epic Games has recently released Battle Breakers, which looks like an extremely generic mobile game. The only time I've seen anybody talk about it is in YouTube sponsor spots.
There's been competition with everyone improving in the PC landscape for years. This isn't new.
Probably not as embarrassing as r/fuckepic, but yeah it's pretty close.
obviously not, but it's certainly a large exclusive that makes the platform enticing to use to a number of people, thus warranting mentioning it when listing various advantages each platform has
His whole point is that he is bringing the "multistore new world" to "fight against the Valve monopoly". He is clearly implying on the conversation that it is thanks to him bringing EGS.
His whole spiel is just annoying trying to parrot that he is the saviour of pc gaming waking up Valve, when nothing like that has happened.
As I said in another point, the market is evolving as it was before EGS, with the same pace. Valve creates new innovative functions with GoG a far second trying to also doing something unique.
im not sure how you cant read the implication there but people astound me every day so what do i know!
Isn't the Epic Store still missing features and so forth which one would expect from a digital storefront in 2019 nearly 2020?
Also don't know how something that has been in development for years now somehow gets credited to a jank service which only recently hit the scene and biggest claim to fame is paying for timed exclusives as well as being from the company which does Fortnite and nothing else.
In fact Epic has killed numerous projects in favor of more Fortnite.
Valve > Epic every single day of the week from here until the end of the time.
Also don't know how something that has been in development for years now somehow gets credited to a jank service which only recently hit the scene and biggest claim to fame is paying for timed exclusives as well as being from the company which does Fortnite and nothing else.
In fact Epic has killed numerous projects in favor of more Fortnite.
Valve > Epic every single day of the week from here until the end of the time.
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