but they didnt, they have a small number of indies, most of the money they have been throwing around have been at AAA devs.
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Tim Sweeney: Epic Games Store is making the industry better but gamers don't see that
- Thread starter Komo
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Most of the epic money being thrown around has been to publishers.
And there is literally zero evidence of any publisher deals passing on the money to developers.
Its not on me to defend your false claims.
So you've basically got nothing, but hurt feelings Cool. Come back when you have facts and sources to backup imagery concerns.
Yes, let's give a developer so much money that they can screw over all the people that invested and Kickstarted their game to make it possible, and suffer no repercussions.
You mean struggling mom and pop shops like Ubisoft and 2K? Cause aside from a couple, that's who these high profile deals are going after. As as pointed out by others, indie devs will be heavily curated. But those with a big publisher? They get right in. Their publisher might even get a cheque for exclusivity.
Hope you are trolling with this post otherwise this is really misinformed.
As misinformed as every "it's just another launcher" post that shows up each new topic.
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Just flag games with potentially-oof words by default and then have somebody that actually looks at it. Chances are somebody trying to submit "SJW Jew Rape Simulator 2019" isn't going to try to fight it, but something with a name like Whore of the Orient (a cancelled game) could be flagged despite being a legitimate game.
Dang, if only I had the ability to care about more than one thing as a time...
Wait, people can care about more than one thing at a time?
It's truly amazing what the human brain is capable of.
To be fair, the meme that this person posted insinuated you can only care about one issue at a time, so..... it checks out. /s
Hope you are reminding everyone hyping Cyberpunk threads about that!
It's even worse when you see that it's from the top of r/gamingcirclejerk. I don't think his shitpost worked as intended.
You're assuming Valve didn't want a middle ground. Every attempt they've made at curation has pissed someone off, just look at the "porn games" Tim Sweeney doesn't want on EGS. There was uproar over Steam "curating" those just late last year. How quickly some devs forget when the cold hard cash comes calling.
valve "floor" is so low right now, that its below ground. yes you will piss someone off, yes you might mis a few worth while games, but its still not a argument to not have a floor.
You yourself cant even determine the floor you want implmented. and Valve is suppose to do it to appease everyone.
So Dangerous Driving is up on the humble store but it's the same price as the epic store.
https://www.humblebundle.com/store/dangerous-driving
It's a little early to say price fixing but if humble is just going to have the same price as epic store what's the point. This isn't store competition.
https://www.humblebundle.com/store/dangerous-driving
It's a little early to say price fixing but if humble is just going to have the same price as epic store what's the point. This isn't store competition.
Because letting it be sold on Humble is just PR damge control, because they were getting insane flack for locking out all third party stores for The Division 2 and having no other stores selling EGS key games.
my idea is valve should look at the 250 to 500 best selling games, excluding AAA, whitelist those devs, and make every other dev pitch their games to valve like most store fronts do.
Referring to this: https://www.thegamer.com/epic-store-2-million-sales-exchange-exclusivity/
Yall can have w/e opinion you like but it is a perennial fear of small developers that their shit will get lost in all the noise or that they will lose everything on their game, it is nice to hear about situations where they are just taken care of
Yall can have w/e opinion you like but it is a perennial fear of small developers that their shit will get lost in all the noise or that they will lose everything on their game, it is nice to hear about situations where they are just taken care of
We've been there. That's literally the Greenlight era. Everybody hated that.
Do you subscribe to humble monthly? I believe you get another 10 percent off if you do so that would make up the difference.
It's even cheaper with monthly (€21.60) I opened the page in a new private window to check the normal price.
Thnat was literally pre-greenlight with just valve and then post green-light with users
Everyone hated it.
why are we repeating bad ideas from the past? repeating the systems that were complained about previously is not a solution that even bares considering.
Sorry, it's the pre greenlight era. Even more people than everybody hated that and that's quite the feat.
Missing worthwhile games is very much an argument to not have a floor. It's exactly why the reverse is not applied to permanent bans in online games - due to false positives being a factor, automatically assigning bans is basically not done outside of algorithms that leave no chance of ambiguity. Because letting a hundred cheaters keep playing is better than banning a handful of honest players.
Crap games on Steam are a very low incidental cost - because cost to Steam itself depends on how many people play the games in the first place. Letting those crap games get in, is worth it for the occasional surprise that sells a few tens of thousands and lets a new beginner developer into the industry.
I guess this is the apology for metro lol. USA no extra discount.
http://www.whatsonsteam.com/index.htm
Look at the games releasing on Steam just in the last couple of days. Let's assume you take the Adult Only stuff out of there, and there's no push back against that. That removes... 3 or 4? Now give me a reason why Valve should refuse any of them, or a consistent guideline that would cut out the "bad games" and leave the "good games".
besides not being able to provide services for places like Asia, or allow developing countries to pay in non-standard payment processors?
yup and if its a cost issue in the EU ect, do 12% in the US/Canada and like 15 to 18% everywhere else.
We used to have to manually configure the interrupt request channels on our soundcards, tweak our config.sys and reboot per-game and deal with obtuse DirectInput button prompts; should we go back to doing all of that too?
Oh? Does it mean that Epic would stop giving devs bags of money for exclusivity? Well,I never. What a novel idea.
but it wouldnt be b/c every dev they chose to aprove would in turn be added to the whitelist, back then they had to hand approve every game, the cms is set up so that isnt needed anymore.
Generally, once you got one of your games on Steam, you were set and everything else got approved automatically. It's the same shit where a few people win and the rest try to second guess whoever it is at Valve that signs off at new titles.
I'm getting tired of explaining the same stuff over and over again to people who aren't pc gamers in the first place. Dozens of people in dozens of threads have already explained why it's not a matter of "just another storefront". Go read them. It's not that hard.
And no, I won't stop "crying". I will keep raising my voice against store exclusivity deals on pc and I will boycott any games involved. Paying 3rd party devs to keep their games away from competing storefronts is NOT how I see healthy competition.
Oh yes, you're talking about the developers of Phoenix Point, the game that was already fully funded by their fans.
Yeah, what a relief that Epic saved these guys.
Of course, you want active console-style platform warring. Of course. Of course you do. Naturally. What else would anyone want.
To be fair, crowdsourcing goals are notoriously insufficient and the projects often hilariously mismanaged.