Netflix are the ones making original shows. Kanye can go fuck himself.
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Tim Sweeney confirms Epic is paying to keep games off third party sellers (Inc The Division 2)
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The funniest thing about all this mess is that these guys think their potential customers are stupid and need to be told about what's good for them, and every objection to their plans is shrugged off as 'you don't understans our business model'.
I mean, for one, album exclusives ARE controversial. Apple mostly moved away from album exclusives because they're controversial: https://www.businessinsider.com/app...-exclusives-angering-labels-kanye-west-2017-5
Moreover, Netflix buys the streaming rights to non-in house productions, but you're still able to buy that series/movie on iTunes/Amazon/Blu-ray et al. Even some of the Netflix in-house productions are available on iTunes/Amazon/Blu-ray for purchase for that matter.
This is what it means to be an Epic Game Store exclusive: https://isthereanydeal.com/game/ashen/info/
Crap like this is exactly why I'm against the epic game store. Paying for exclusive rights for games that they weren't even attached to. Basically, they'll pay to screw over any other outlet/service and that's crap. Sweeny is a huge hypocrite, it's ridiculous.
Not the sort of crap the pc gaming landscape needs. It's all that Fortnite money going to his head.
"another reason to come to our store"
There's a reason to use Epic Store aside from the exclusives?
Difference is those albums and movies are being shopped around. No one expected Stranger Things on Amazon to only be pulled down the road. That's what's happening here is that games are being pulled to NOT be sold on steam.
people in fact did complain when life of pablo was exclusive.
To support the poor wee devs getting million dollar paychecks to be exclusive, naturally.
Reminder that by getting The Division 2 removed from third party sellers, they have in fact increase the price for it.
That's just for tracking playtime from games bought from Epic Store. They are already tracking your playtime for Steam games.
That's just for tracking playtime from games bought from Epic Store. They are already tracking your playtime for Steam games.
Haha, I am sure that more is yet to come! I hope not honestly though, would be nice for all of this to get resolved in a way that benefits consumers and developers.
Well, to be fair, developers who aren't successful on a 30% platform, isn't sustainable business for those developers either... meaning games don't release period.
Publishers are greedy... developers are greedy.. and Stores in general are greedy.
If Valve's business depended on games selling good numbers instead of just massive quantities of games that sell badly, then I'm sure things would be different there as well.
What are you talking about, you get exclusive rights to moderate Epic threads! The fruits of competition!
Couldn't I just use Discord for that and give them an extra 2% over Epic?
So we all imaged the years of years of successful indie developers?
It's just last couple months with the arrival of Saint Epic Store that the indie game revolution has finally arrived?
Why are you rewriting history to act like indie devs have never been profitable until Epic came along?
Developers who aren't successfull on a 30% platform should probably look for a new job because that'sbeen the industry standard forever.
The market is more competitive than ever, not everyone is going to prosper and that's just the reality of it. Epic throwing a few money-shaped lifeboats makes no difference whatsoever.
Yes.
At least until Tim opens the floodgates and I will die laughing at history repeating itself.
Well, I'm not. The Epic store isn't just about indie games...
And those indies are making their own choice. I'm just stating what it likely is. Most indies aren't as successful on Steam as the ones that are. Even so, if they choose to take Epic's deal, then it's because they think that's best for their business... yes, unfortunately at the expense of consumer choice.
99.9% of indie developers won't ever get that choice?
'Choice'
That's funny
Funny how the only indie devs on the Epic store are the already successful ones, I guess Epic isn't pro-indie developer, considering they lock out over 99% of them.
I don't know if it's the Fortnite money so much as the console model. I mean, this is how exclusivity works. This is how Sony built the Playstation's library back in the '90s when they entered the game industry, buying exclusives. Then Microsoft did the same for the Xbox. He's just applying the same business model to PC, which seems...unwise? I guess we'll see what happens, but it feels like trying to apply a model that makes more sense for a more closed system to a very traditionally open one, and that usually doesn't go too well.
Along with another increase for those that Epic passes processing fees along to.
Absolutely right. But those developers are being given a platform and another chance to be successful. We don't have to support them.
I mean, you're not incorrect, but, for how many devs are these additional 12% they get truly a gamechanger?
I'd wager the amount of devs for whom this makes the difference between being successul or not are a fringe case at most.
In entertainment media, including videogames, a minority of products makes a majority of the money. meaning the ones who will profit off of this are those that are already immensely successful, where as those who are failing will just fail a little bit less.
I could have sworn their inroads against 70% stores were "passing the savings on to the customer" and "an in-built Fortnite audience". Oh well.
When MST3K was announced to be exclusive to Netflix, I was pissed, as a backer
nice shitpost, tho
Devs who aren't successful on a 30% platform wont be successful on a 12% platform either. Every publisher on the EGS so far aren't struggling devs.
You have a total lack of reading about the market. Not every game can and will be successful. Period. You have far too many legitimate devs and games for that to happen. Your solution is basically to tell devs who spent the last 3 years developping a game that they're not welcomed to sell their game.
Disgusting.
I really hope the next big fad comes along and topples Fortnite so that Epic can't use their current cash cow to pull this nonsense. Few things get on my tits more than a hypocrite and by christ Tim has that personality flaw in spades.
Really, the PC gaming landscape is in a bit of a mess. All these different launchers, the whole EGS scanning Steam files which seems suspect as fuck, what a ballache.
Really, the PC gaming landscape is in a bit of a mess. All these different launchers, the whole EGS scanning Steam files which seems suspect as fuck, what a ballache.
What? A huge chunk of Netflix Originals are funded by them and would not exist otherwise.
Are there any shows that were announced for TV networks that Netflix "stole"? Most of the time a show moves networks its a mutual agreement
The Television industry and the Gaming industry are very different.
How do you know that?
That's not what I'm saying at all.. like AT ALL..
Buying exclusives is explicitly anti-competition, anti-market and anti-consumer. The attempt to spin the exclusive model as being pro-competition is almost more insulting than the practice itself. The only reason EGS is paying for exclusives is because they don't want to compete with Steam and third party sellers. They need to pick a new marketing angle.
Yes, the publishers that Epic propositions have the choice... which was who I was referring to.
Everyone's metric for success is different. If you want to say they are even more greedy.. be my guest.. but that's not all on Epic.
