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TIL that Jerry Seinfeld dated a 17yo girl when he was 38
- Thread starter BobbeMalle
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This is actually a lot creepier than the Seinfeld thing.
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You haven't see all of It. He even apologized on live TV during Letterman i think, with Jerry in the studio.
It sounded so fake and It was really weird.
There's the video on youtube
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Ooooof. I didn't realize that it was straight-up "what if Rosemary Cross had reciprocated Max's infatuation in Rushmore?"
didn't sound too fake.
problem were the morons in the audience, that thought it was a bit and couldn't stop laughing till Jerry told them to.
I find it hard to be creeped out by a relationship that has endured, in the public eye no less, even if it started out in a sketchy fashion.
Doesn't that mean nobody can be a victim of anything if they choose to stay with someone?
He also appears on Comedian in Cars Getting Coffee. Jerry asks him some good questions. He seems extremely remorseful, sad, and downright broken towards the end. Honestly, I feel like he's been through enough after all these years. I recommend watching that episode and you decide for yourselves. It doesn't excuse what he did, just thought it'd be an interesting watch over a decade later.
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It means that I'm going to assume most of the time that people are okay in their relationships even if there are examples of people who are not.
If you got enough in common beyond sex with twenty years apart to sustain a relationship, one of you is a fucking stagnant moron and it's the elder of the two.
Jerry Seinfeld is not a moron, he just liked fucking a really young woman. That was it.
Jerry Seinfeld is not a moron, he just liked fucking a really young woman. That was it.
Yeah that was super sketch and gross. Like Luc Besson marrying a 15 year old after he got her pregnant in France type gross. Seinfeld ended up marrying someone closer to his own age at least. The only time huge age gaps like that are okay are if the younger person is well into adulthood, like a 30 or 40 year old marrying a 60 something is fine. Going for teenagers should be off limits if you're over age 30.
And it was. She was 17 when they met but had turned 18 by the time they started dating. It was still weird and creepy as hell, and widely reported as such in the press. What the fuck did they talk about?
I must have been reading sanitized gossip back then, because I thought that they'd met (in Central Park, I think) and he asked her out (and might have gone on one date), but found out she was 17 and then waited until she was 18 before they really dated.
I think he met his wife when she was on her honeymoon. Makes that relationship game show he created seem like a bad idea in retrospect.
I think it's creepy. I don't care if it's "legal" someone who's in their late thirties should not be dating someone that young period.
I was in junior high at the time, Seinfeld had just become a phenomenon and while it "got people talking" here and there it was mostly brushed off as "Oh, that quirky, immature Jerry doin' his thing" and the entertainment press just winked at it or flat out broadly defended it (like that People magazine article posted earlier). That's not to say it went completely under the radar, there was an episode of Unhappily Ever After where a comedian who is obviously a spoof of Jerry is dating Tiffany.
This is more of a side tangent but while I still love his work, Jerry in general seems like a pretty jerky, callous person overall. Aside from the topic of this thread, there's the whole bit with Jerry stealing a guy's newlywed wife back in '98. Not to mention coming across as a very unpleasant person who constantly looks down his nose at "the little people" in Comedians in Cars. Look up the episode with Bill Maher where he asks a waiter "What's your name?" The waiter then naturally extends his hand to Jerry and introduces himself. Jerry then just coldly stares at the dude and says something like 'Wow, that's gross. You just shake someone's hand after being in the kitchen?' Even Bill Maher seemed uncomfortable. Then at one point the same waiter is walking by and Jerry, who just berated the waiter for being "unhygenic" then puts a used napkin in his hand to throw away. Like, all time great comedian but #1 celebrity I wouldn't want anything to do with in a public situation. And I'm all for giving celebs their space in public anyways, just saying Jerry makes it easy because of how crass he comes off as.
Yes, that was horrible but at least it inspired this:
This is more of a side tangent but while I still love his work, Jerry in general seems like a pretty jerky, callous person overall. Aside from the topic of this thread, there's the whole bit with Jerry stealing a guy's newlywed wife back in '98. Not to mention coming across as a very unpleasant person who constantly looks down his nose at "the little people" in Comedians in Cars. Look up the episode with Bill Maher where he asks a waiter "What's your name?" The waiter then naturally extends his hand to Jerry and introduces himself. Jerry then just coldly stares at the dude and says something like 'Wow, that's gross. You just shake someone's hand after being in the kitchen?' Even Bill Maher seemed uncomfortable. Then at one point the same waiter is walking by and Jerry, who just berated the waiter for being "unhygenic" then puts a used napkin in his hand to throw away. Like, all time great comedian but #1 celebrity I wouldn't want anything to do with in a public situation. And I'm all for giving celebs their space in public anyways, just saying Jerry makes it easy because of how crass he comes off as.
Yes, that was horrible but at least it inspired this:
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It's not the audience's fault, the apology came too fast. Youtube didn't exist, the video only started to go viral, and Letterman/Seinfeld gave no specifics, so the vast majority of the audience had no clue what he was even apologizing about.
Yeah, I always took it as the audience wasn't laughing at him or being dismissive, they were just like "Uhhh, ok this is kinda weird. Why is the guy who played Kramer giving this super uncomfortable apology about a very serious situation over satellite feed on this Letterman episode we waited in line to see?" They can't be blamed at all for maybe thinking it was some weird skit. Not to mention Richards being crazy awkward and saying things like "Afro-Americans." And Jerry comes across condescending as always treating the audience like they're dumb kids saying "Stop that! It's not funny!" in a lecturing tone. Give me a break. I remember Sinbad saying in his opinion Richard's apology on Letterman was an inappropriate cop out which I agree with and also said something to the effect of "If he really wants to man up and show that he's really sorry then he should come out and apologize on stage at the Apollo." Although I dunno if that would have been a great idea either, obviously. lol
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Whoa. Never watched it and assumed he just made a brainless comment. This was something else.
Thanks for the link. He's basically saying that it broke him. And Jerry looking at him like "I always knew you were racist, and probably still are, but why tf couldn't you just keep it to yourself."
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The way I see this stuff is if you're an adult, you can only date 18-19 year olds if you're below 30.
No adults should be having sex with anyone below 18.
If you're over 30, the lowest you should go is around 20 but i'll be giving you a side-glance if you look like you can be your partner's grandpa.
No adults should be having sex with anyone below 18.
If you're over 30, the lowest you should go is around 20 but i'll be giving you a side-glance if you look like you can be your partner's grandpa.
Age of consent is all well and good, but that doesn't stop it from being creepy as hell. Lets say the AoC is 17 and and she just turned 17 today.. That doesn't make her any more mature than she was 6 hours ago. But the law says she's free to date 40 year old men, so it's fine? Nah. That's still borderline predator..
Lets flip this to the obvious next step: Any of you "but, age of consent" people comfortable with your 16/17 year old dating a 40 year old man?
Lets flip this to the obvious next step: Any of you "but, age of consent" people comfortable with your 16/17 year old dating a 40 year old man?
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The article in the OP says they met in the park. Seems like he just saw her and started a conversation. I get what you mean though, I'm not even 30 and I don't easily find myself in places or situations where I'm meeting 17 year olds.
Lol just under the wire shugga
1000000% Sure She doesn't give a fuck what people think to her or him.
Go date with Old rich men is one of some girls dream.
i fucking lost it at "ok you take the monkey's side"
i dont even remember that episode, i dont remember any monkey in the show, must be from one of the episodes i didn't care for
EDIT: nvm, i kinda remember the zookeeper guy in the video
Hollywood doesn't care.
They seriously still stan for Roman Polanski so any idea they will look down on a 30-40 year old dating a teenager is giving them too much credit.
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Haha. My bad. I thought he was still with the same girl.
TIL that my wife and I being 20 years apart in age is creepy and or immoral, and that the stereotypes of it being a male fantasy trip but nevermind two people being in love with each other.
Were ya'll both grown for all those 20 years? Then no problem. Have a nice life. If your wife was a minor when you started smashing and you were 38, then yea. You were immoral. Sorry.
The age difference itself isn't the issue. She was 17.
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That's a superficial opinion on the subject, it's not always black or white.
Jerry is a smart, brilliant person and i doubt he recklessly doved into a creepy situation.
Despite all of this, i can understand he felt a connection with this girl, but it's still immoral to pursue a relationship like this.
Like others said, the age difference is not the issue, the problem is that she's 17.
I'm 33 and don't want to date anyone younger than 25 at this point. I work with and deal with a number of people that are 20-23 and I can't stand to be around them.
When I was like 27 and dating an 18 year old girl I felt extremely weird about it, and that was legal!
I made sure to ask everyone around me how they felt about it and if it was weird and they all told me they didn't see it as a big deal.
I will say I didn't, like, intentionally go for her cuz she was younger or any of that nonsense. Age is age and I was late 20's but I will say I've always been much younger looking, and frankly kind of immature for my age. So seeing us together really didn't even look like any kind of age difference. So there was that. But I'm not taking away the age gap and how young she was. Even to this day I still feel slightly weird about our age gap. I would have preferred her to be older.
We were co-workers and she actually made the first moves. I was really unsure about it but after my friends and even her own brother said it was no big deal I felt more okay with it.
But Jerry being damn near 40 and dating a high school girl? Goddamn. That's going too far.
That's not even legal! He probably coulda dated any woman, why a 17 year old?
Some guys are way too pervy about younger women. It's all I can take from this cuz as I said, he woulda had little trouble finding someone his age. No excuse.
I made sure to ask everyone around me how they felt about it and if it was weird and they all told me they didn't see it as a big deal.
I will say I didn't, like, intentionally go for her cuz she was younger or any of that nonsense. Age is age and I was late 20's but I will say I've always been much younger looking, and frankly kind of immature for my age. So seeing us together really didn't even look like any kind of age difference. So there was that. But I'm not taking away the age gap and how young she was. Even to this day I still feel slightly weird about our age gap. I would have preferred her to be older.
We were co-workers and she actually made the first moves. I was really unsure about it but after my friends and even her own brother said it was no big deal I felt more okay with it.
But Jerry being damn near 40 and dating a high school girl? Goddamn. That's going too far.
That's not even legal! He probably coulda dated any woman, why a 17 year old?
Some guys are way too pervy about younger women. It's all I can take from this cuz as I said, he woulda had little trouble finding someone his age. No excuse.
Imagine asking your friends, people who are complete strangers to this person, for permission to date her. Her, someone old enough to begin taking their own life in their hands and learn from their own experiences and choices.
Some states have 16/17 as age of consent BUT it comes with restrictions. Like you have to be within a few years of your sexual partner, which Seinfeld was not. Now, if you want to believe they weren't having sex while she was 17 and he was 38 then....you can believe what you want I guess. But a 17 year old having sex with a 38 year old is very illegal in all US states.