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THR: Kevin Fiege has confirmed that Fantastic Four will not be an origin story movie
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They can show a clip when some reporter asks, "so, how did the Four of you become so Fantastic?" It doesn't need to be half of a movie.
There will either be a reason for that or they get their origin in the modern MCU, it's just gonna be quickly recapped or something and not the focus of the first movie.
He's just saying we are not gonna be waiting half the movie for them to get their powers and the other have to accept them and figure them out. These characters will hit the ground running in the MCU like Spider-Man, and they can get right into the weirder and more adventurous side of the F4 that previous movies didn't show us.
Hmm, ok. Well maybe that alone is a clue. Potentiality that a portal just opens at the start of the movie and another universes F4 just becomes the main universes MCU? I don't see how they'd hit the ground running and pretend they were here all along without them literally just showing up, tearing through universes in the middle of a fight or something.
Could have been trapped in the Negative Zone or out in space, or maybe Kang/He Who Remains time-manipulated them out of existence or some shit. There are a million comic booky ways they can work them into the modern MCU without breaking continuity.
All that means is they won't spend 2 hours on who they are, how they met, how they got their powers, learning to use them, and becoming a team for the final ~20 minutes of the movie.
NO lol there have been dozens of ideas in this thread about how they could do it without resorting to that kind of unimaginative multiverse emergency lever. I even made a post earlier summarizing like 5 of them:
• They were a team in the 60s working with Hank Pym and got lost in the Quantum Realm
• They were a team in the past unconnected to Hank and did their own experiments and got lost in the Negative Zone (which is likely going to come into play in The Marvels)
• They're a modern team and their origin is told via flashbacks theoughout the entire movie
• They're a modern team and their origin is told in the background across multiple other projects like The Marvels and Secret Invasion, similar to what they're starting to do with Mutants
Example:
Fury is up on the SWORD station and introduces someone to his top scientist Reed Richards. He can either have his powers and give a brief 3-sentence summary of how he got them there, or he doesn't have powers yet and it happens in another show. Or in-between shows.
• They're a modern team and their origin is covered in a montage for the first 3-5 minutes of the movie
Example:
The movie could just start with a home movie of Reed's proposal to Sue. He wants it to be special and against better judgement and warnings of danger he gets his pilot friend Ben Grim to fly them into space so he can propose against the backdrop of the cosmos with Sue's brother Johnny along to film it. While up there they get hit with cosmic radiation, the camera shorts out. Clips of their bodies warping horrifically, clips of them training with their powers, clips of them making their suits, ending in a fantastic wedding and the Marvel Studios logo. 3-5 minutes and it's done. Movie starts with "Six months later" or something and we hit the ground running.
• He Who Remains knows that any Reed existing will inevitably result in a Kang so he's been purposefully stopping Reed or Nathaniel Richards from coming into existence in any timeline, and now that he's dead, Reeds can exist and form the Fantastic Four
Good. Origin stories suck.
It's not like the FF's origin is really interesting, anyway, and part of the reason the last two FF movies blew was because they kept trying to tie everything into the origin story. Quit putting Doom there with them! Let him be his own thing.
Just do a five-minute flashback to explain their origins to anyone who cares. Heck, make it the animated intro to the movie Rankin Bass-style or something.
It's not like the FF's origin is really interesting, anyway, and part of the reason the last two FF movies blew was because they kept trying to tie everything into the origin story. Quit putting Doom there with them! Let him be his own thing.
Just do a five-minute flashback to explain their origins to anyone who cares. Heck, make it the animated intro to the movie Rankin Bass-style or something.
Awesome, haha, yeah, I guess all of these would work. I like the idea of slowly introducing them throughout post credit scenes throughout the next phase and a half. Or just showing small scenes of their origins in the other movies.
Honestly I think it's going the Endgame route.
They will show an abridged version of the comic origin.
The experimental space ship who's mission got scrubbed.
Reed bringing in Sue, Johnny and Ben to break in and due the mission anyways.
The cosmic rays bombard the ship. They all start to transform and crash somewhere.
They marvel at their new powers and you get this shot
Then the Marvel opening and a black screen that says, "X YEARS LATER"
I would like to point out that the first issue of the Fantastic Four gave 5 pages to the origin in a 40+ page book and wasn't even started until page 9.
They will show an abridged version of the comic origin.
The experimental space ship who's mission got scrubbed.
Reed bringing in Sue, Johnny and Ben to break in and due the mission anyways.
The cosmic rays bombard the ship. They all start to transform and crash somewhere.
They marvel at their new powers and you get this shot
Then the Marvel opening and a black screen that says, "X YEARS LATER"
I would like to point out that the first issue of the Fantastic Four gave 5 pages to the origin in a 40+ page book and wasn't even started until page 9.
Reed Richards will most likely be in his 40-60's because that was what Marvel was looking for the mysterious Benefactor which is most likely Doom goven the information we now have.
I fully expect that the explanation is that the Fantastic Four went missing in like the Negative Zone, and have only now returned alongside Reed and Sunsan's two teenage children.
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I fully expect that the explanation is that the Fantastic Four went missing in like the Negative Zone, and have only now returned alongside Reed and Sunsan's two teenage children.
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Sure if you want to reduce their story to that 5 pages this decision is fine. However you will be ignoring decades of building the characters and relationship, not to mention the interaction between Reed/Doom.
Which can be built up in the movies.
Doom's first appearance didn't spend the whole comic talking about there relationship to each other. Fantastic Four #5 spent 5 panels on a single page setting it up. It then was built up more ove the last 60 years.
Yup. You can pretty briefly show them going to space and getting their powers and then skip ahead to already being active and knowing their shit.
Yes, but I feel they are speeding up to reach the current status soon, and Doom to become a major player in Secret Wars (as it should be).
And in those movies they don't have the luxury of taking the time, actors do old.
They need to set up the characterization right, so I worry they will skip important bits.
I'm worried about this too as i don't think 1 year is enough time to go from F4 to Secret Wars but they are hopefully approaching it as just one of multiple events that will shape Reed and Doom's relationship instead of the culmination of all those years of buildup like 2015 Secret Wars was.
