In other words, it will be the typical Remedy release. They should be used to that by now.
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THQN: Absolute majority of Metro Exodus revenue coming from consoles, no comment on PC sales
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In other words, it will be the typical Remedy release. They should be used to that by now.
Quantum Break was heavily advertised and flopped pretty hard IIRC so I'm not really expecting much from Control.
I think being an early Xbox One exclusive did a lot of the damage there.
Yeah, lol. I would never in a million years buy anything on EGS otherwise. Some of the EGS indie exclusives became 65-75% off with the discounts and it will be a very long time (if ever) to get that big of discount on Steam when it finally launches there a year late. So I picked up a couple of those indie titles and that will be it unless some other amazing sale happens in the future for new titles added to the store.
Mediocre according to whom?
It's Metacritic score is no different than the previous two Metros. Personally I think it's the best Metro so far.
Bought the game on PC and absolutely love it. Not sure why we should wish for the failure of a game in which was clouded by politicans most likely out of the control of the developers.
I didn't and don't want to leave because I play a lot on consoles too but it cemented my decision of not articulating proper PC discussion or posting lengthier/meatier posts ever here. I'll just do that somewhere else because that wasn't nice to watch and maybe mishandled.
There are also (generally) two consoles. PC is somewhere between Xbox & PS4 in sales.
There is also differences that PC games have longer tail (and PC players buy more DLC, which makes copies sold more profitable and no used game sales since games usually tied to service - The Witcher 3 is probably sole exception in recent history - you'll miss on patches and DLC though).
Ubisoft: (Q4 PC is even ahead of PS4, but full year is still behind)
I see. That's a shame, although understandable. Not the first time I've heard of PC Era getting fed up with the trolling and shitposting thrown their way.
TLDR, we get a lot of
It's a damn shame. I can somewhat relate but keep my sanity by filling up the ignore list when I realize they are arguing in bad faith. Also, we have really awesome and knowledgable posters on this site that make it worth it for me. Also I don't blame moderation at all as this topic is a minefield and they do go after the more transparent people. It's a rough job with this topic.
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You sound like they wronged customers or did something horrific. Terrible sentiments on your part too.
Support the developers that make your games, even if you don't buy their games.
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What? ResetEra mods being terrible with moderation and overly sensitive to further their narratives? No, never.
I've been considering the effect on the popularity of the franchises since this started. I dont know if it really make a dent or not, but I'm curious.
Even if you're still doing good on consoles, the hit you take in the PC sphere both in sales and in the fans you gain could be worse than you planned for.
Some franchises might be easier to skip than others. If elder scrolls 6 was exclusive, it would be easier to break people down. But Control for instance is going to get destroyed out there because it'll be easy to pass on. Will losing a ton of their PC sales doom control's future prospects as a franchise? We may never know.
Even if you're still doing good on consoles, the hit you take in the PC sphere both in sales and in the fans you gain could be worse than you planned for.
Some franchises might be easier to skip than others. If elder scrolls 6 was exclusive, it would be easier to break people down. But Control for instance is going to get destroyed out there because it'll be easy to pass on. Will losing a ton of their PC sales doom control's future prospects as a franchise? We may never know.
As a fan of the Metro games, I was excited for this when it got announced and I would still love to buy it on PC someday, but I refuse to support EGS in any way.
Certainly won't be paying full price for it once it hits Steam, though.
Certainly won't be paying full price for it once it hits Steam, though.
Someone explain this all to me. Is it that hard to use the Epic store? Or is it a principle thing?
wasnt it like 2.5x the sales? LMFAO fucking liars. 2.5 times the launch of lsat light maybe, which isnt much to be honest, last light peaked at 16k lol
Customers do feel wronged by EGS exclusivity. Especially the way that it was done for Metro Exodus, where the game was pulled from Steam with only a brief warning. Consumers that feel wronged have every right to express themselves about it here, as long as they follow the forum rules.
Once again, developers are not entitled to unconditional support. We don't have to tow the company line just because they do.
Thanks, I know the situation. Hoping the devs don't do well because of it is a terrible mentality kid.
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You enjoy an entire studio might go down because the sales of their hard working game didnt meet end?
Please reconsider. They do their best and they're trying to serve us. Big mistake was made with this, but big mistakes are bound to happen from time to time.
Its various issues including that it sucks to use the epic store, things are more expensive on the epic store, principal things as you call it.
The first glance at the situation may reveal that epic is going out of their way to put steam users in discomfort. That's kind of a big one.
Everybody that is unhappy with the way epic and involved publishers are conducting busines should be happy that the game bombed and hurts the involved parties financially.
That is literally what "Voting with your wallet" means, neolibs.
Or is that entire phrase also just another load of corporate bootlicking that stops to be the "mature solution" the moment it shows that its working?
That is literally what "Voting with your wallet" means, neolibs.
Or is that entire phrase also just another load of corporate bootlicking that stops to be the "mature solution" the moment it shows that its working?
Aaayyyyee. Okay I feel like I started this. I don't want anymore. There's really no good place to discuss it. there's a lot of different ideas about what actually happened. I have my own and I have occasionally aired it out but I don't want to do that here.
I'm going to pm you (efit: apparently you to me because for some reason I can't pm you) my hypothesis and if anyone else wants to know I'll be an open book privately. but I would like to make this my last reply on the topic here. :>
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It's not terrible from a consumer standpoint if it forces them to reconsider their anti consumer behavior. And I can do without the condescension.
That extra money is not going into the pockets of overworked devs. The consumer is getting shafted and the workers are still underpaid. Don't be so naive.
This EGS exclusivity deal was done over the heads of the developers, when the game was already finished and set to release on Steam in a month or two, on such a short time frame that physical PC copies had to slap an EGS logo on top of the Steam logo. All this EGS money is going straight to publishers (unless self-published). The dev team is not going to see a single cent of that money because they had already finished their work.
It's rather normal (but not even necessarily always true) for a game to have a console as leading platform in sales. This typically looks something like "35-45% on PS4, 25-35% on PC, 25-35% on XBONE".
it's definitely not the norm for a game with a concurrent release to have the overwhelming majority of their sales on consoles with PC being so far behind.
Especially not for a East European franchise with a strong PC user base where in the previous installments the PC was always the leading platform.
I was only referencing EGS sales. There was nothing about the studio going down in the OP so maybe I missed that on one of the other pages? Would hope that isn't the case considering it sold well on consoles.
I wonder when Mr. Sweeney will get tired of his vanity project.
If that studio/dev/publisher tried their best to fuck me sideways? Abso-fucking-lutely.
I'm not sure when we even went into this mindset that someone selling me a product is somehow entitled to my money no matter what, honestly.
I wish. The sooner the better.
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Yeah, I noticed how mods and admins in previous threads would post dumb shit like the COD Steam group meme without a hint of irony or self-awareness, as if they're incapable of following their own rules.
It's bizarre how certain people want to move the goalpost where even "Voting with your Wallet" is toxic consumer entitlement. So just support any product if you don't like their practices less you be toxic and have an awful mentality? So we should just support businesses now carte blache or we are part of the problem?
How the fuck did we get here?
Im not sure what you mean? Can you explain? Ive been out of the loop. Thanks.
It's funny to me that they won't even discuss PC sales because they were so bad.
I'm glad it has been a disaster for them.
I must admit that I have considered leaving for somewhere else after how poorly handled the discussion and moderation has been regarding, well, everything related to the EGS.
I'm glad it has been a disaster for them.
They certainly tried to spin it that way:
They may not be lying but they certainly aren't being honest unless they're releasing hard numbers.
For example:
"Metro Exodus. Exclusive to the Epic Games store. 2.5x Steam sales of previous game, Metro: Last Light."
Must have sold really well on the Epic Games store, right?
Oh. Steam Spy estimates 0–20,000 owners for Metro: Last Light, and SteamDB reports a peak of 16,970 players for the week the game launched.
Then you realize that Metro Exodus was still available for pre-order on Steam for a day before it was pulled from sale, with some people rushing to pre-order and get a Steam version rather than EGS. It was also bundled with graphics cards, which is probably being counted towards those sales numbers as well.
While that may be the case for smaller indie games, I doubt that is true for something like this.
Was there a specific incident that I missed? I don't often check many of the general PC topics, but have noticed that some people seem to have left or are not posting here that much anymore.
I must admit that I have considered leaving for somewhere else after how poorly handled the discussion and moderation has been regarding, well, everything related to the EGS.
It's probably doing much better than Metro relative to how it would have sold on Steam due to large discounts in the EGS sale for many regions.
My guess is growing up with "capitalism is all and corporations are people too" ingrained in us either consciously or subconsciously. Kind of like the second amendment here in the US.
Deserved, the way they went about the exclusivity deal was just awful.
Though I'm glad it wasn't enough to straight fuck the game over and 4A found success still, but eh, hope the EPIC money was worth fucking over what would have probably been a slam dunk massive success. Hopefully they learn their lesson and don't pull a "surprise! It's exclusive now" BS move again.
Though I'm glad it wasn't enough to straight fuck the game over and 4A found success still, but eh, hope the EPIC money was worth fucking over what would have probably been a slam dunk massive success. Hopefully they learn their lesson and don't pull a "surprise! It's exclusive now" BS move again.
I won't discuss this any further then this as it's offtopic but I'll leave this here: