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Snowfruit

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Don't know if people aren't aware due to poor coverage of the incident and they're just happy about the return of B games, or if they prioritize their games and don't care. Either way this is not surprising.
A combination of the two I imagine. If I wasn't on Era I would've forgotten about this event already and would've been one of these fans excited for their games.
Podcasts and other gaming related media I follow only covered it for like a week or two so I wouldn't be surprised if people forgot already or never even found out about it.
 

Budi

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I really feel like thq nordic needs a better statement or do something because this continues to haunt them at every turn.
While I personally expected more/better actions from THQ Nordic after the incident, it doesn't haunt them at every turn at all. Hence they don't need to do anything (from their perspective), as is evident by this voting too. THQ Nordic moved along some time ago, as did many of those who were aware of the AMA happening and cared to begin with. Most people who may play any of their games aren't even aware.
 
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nillansan

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Stop this tiresome handwaving. You're not better than the rest of us just because you can boil a serious discussion down to this sort of nonsense, and you're certainly not doing anything to help the issue with it.

I am not handwaving anything, I am just calling out the very prevalent, unempathetic "muh vidjagames" sentiment that pervades these threads, what else do you want me to do? Do you want me to coddle them instead? How are our posts just as bad as the ones that are dismissive of our concerns and actively downplay the fact that THQ knowingly signal boosted a nazi and pedophile cesspit, even going to the extent of framing THQ as the real victims.
 

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They deserve it honestly. They don't use lootboxes (or any MTX I think), they take dead and dying franchises and revive them with loving care. Destroy All Humans and SpongeBob look simply fantastic.
 

Hey Please

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It's kind of a shame when stability is being provided to developers by a corporation that knowingly signal boosted at best, a neo-nazi far right trash site and at worst platform for sharing child porn.

Also, if all the apology they ever gave was "Sorry we did not do research" instead of a genuine, "Yea we did for the lulz to attract attention and didn't think it through and it was huge fuck up on our part for which we are ashamed and hope never repeat such stupidity" then fuck them because, if it was any other publicly held company, where people are held accountable, the people responsible for this imbecility, would have been sacked.

They make good games, but they're still the worst company out there.

It's not just the 8chan AMA; they bought Warhorse Studios without getting rid of one of its founders who is a GamerGater.

Do they make good games or publish good ones?
 

Ryuhza

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So like I was saying earlier, someone would have to lose their job in order for some people here to loosen their grudge

It's hard to buy into the apology when they were warned about the site's history countless times before the AMA, when you see the way they engaged with the members of that site, and yeah, when you see how no action was taken within the company against those involved.
 

nasirum

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They deserve it honestly. They don't use lootboxes (or any MTX I think), they take dead and dying franchises and revive them with loving care. Destroy All Humans and SpongeBob look simply fantastic.

Hold on, are you saying that them winning best games company DOESN'T mean Gamescom is now 8chan's new home?

Holy shit.
 

SturokBGD

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I am not handwaving anything, I am just calling out the very prevalent, unempathetic "muh vidjagames" sentiment that pervades these threads, what else do you want me to do? Do you want me to coddle them instead? How are our posts just as bad as the ones that are dismissive of our concerns and actively downplay the fact that THQ knowingly signal boosted a nazi and pedophile cesspit, even going to the extent of framing THQ as the real victims.
You did it again. "Them"? Come on man.
 
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I am hoping that they won because most of the people voting for them don't remember the 8chan trash. They do certainly have some good looking games so that part is understandable.

This situation sucks. All these great developers are screwed over by a bunch off assholes who pulled that 8chan shit. Fuck whoever decided this was a good idea.

I gotta say though, gaming journalism shows how spineless and uncompetent they are by not reporting on this. This should have been talked about until THQ did something about it.



A week or so back we had the Iron Fury debacle and the publishers came out with a really good apology. 3d Realms are those publishers, you know, the developers responsible for Duke Nukem 3D and Shadow Warrior. It can be done if people were trying.
 
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Haloid1177

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This thread is the perfect synopsis of gaming side versus off topic in regards to how people react to a studio willingly hosting shit on a site that also hosts child pornography.

#TeamOffTopic
 

texhnolyze

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It makes total sense considering they have literally dozens of games in development. But yeah, it's just sad people aren't aware of the recent news about the company.
 

IIFloodyII

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Can't say it's surprising really. There was a reason they were very easily able to sweep it under the rug. Most don't know and those who do, mostly don't care.
 

Just_a_Mouse

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Good for them, still won't be buying any of their games knowing they signal boost platforms used by nazis, white supremacists, and child pornographers.
 

svacina

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This thread is the perfect synopsis of gaming side versus off topic in regards to how people react to a studio willingly hosting shit on a site that also hosts child pornography.

#TeamOffTopic
I would like to see Marvel being involved in some hilarious fuck up to show how righteous team #offtopic really is. The Disney/Sony spat already gave me some idea.
 

Boy Wander

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I can't believe the amount of people here deflecting away from the actual summary over the use of the word "complicit". This is a summary post written by several people indented to provide context to inform others of what THQN did. If changing the "complicit" line will allow you to focus on the real discussion, then I will do so.

And seriously, the amount of times people call me a bot for doing the right thing is getting tiresome. It's not my fault others have stepped down from doing this because of the absolute vitriol you receive if you vaguely bring up the AMA.



Another dismissive "like clockwork" driveby. Perhaps you should read the summary post more closely.



Almost like mods said that their official stance on THQN threads was to allow you to continue discussion of games but to also allow us to bring up their awfulness in every related thread. Why is this so hard for people to understand
Diggeh have you contacted THQN to tell them this and how the gaming community feel about it and what action you think should be taken?

Also what would be a satisfactory conclusion? The firing of those involved along with an apology?
 

Hey Please

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Pointless semantics. It depends if we're talking about THQN GmbH specifically or THQN AB and all of its children. You know what I mean.

Honestly, I understand what you mean but at the same time, I feel bad for the developers whose relationship between them and THQN is primarily financial in nature because that is at least one degree of separation.

For example- A while back, I downloaded Battlechasers from Game Pass because I had been looking forward it for a while due to its art style. I later discovered that they were funded by THQN and developed by Airship Syndicate. I was quite disappointed and in the end decided to uninstall the game. That pang of regret for having to delete said game would have been far less had it been developed by THQN as well.
 

Horo

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The post says complicit in child pornography. While they did set up the event, I don't believe they've been sharing or had any part in the sharing of CP on 8chan. Unless there was a development I missed.

I support that post, but there's no need to label Nordic of things they aren't guilty of. It makes it seem like a vendetta.

IIRC, they didn't even do that. The Mods of /v invited them to hold the AMA and they accepted in return for the promise that all the creepy/illegal stuff was removed during it.
 

kpaadet

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I'm surprised they won that, besides Desperados 3 everything else just looks so meh. But I guess most other big publishers only brought 2-3 games to Gamescom.
 

IIFloodyII

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IIRC, they didn't even do that. The Mods of /v invited them to hold the AMA and they accepted in the return for the promise that all the creepy/illegal stuff was removed during it.
Though funnily enough they pretend they were completely unknowing of how bad the site is in their apology.
 

maximumzero

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The reception to the Spongebob remaster already proved that the general public either doesn't know or doesn't care about the 8Chan controversy, so this is further confirms that.
 

SturokBGD

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Going by this logic, we shouldn't discuss the ever rising problem of white nationalism and white terror, because in your optics we would just promote it and serve as a recruit tool. Yeah, we should just ignore it, that'll make the nazis go away, sure.
"Sigh, gamers" is not discussing the ever rising problem. In fact you're making it worse. Let's try digging a little deeper, yeah?
 

Oligarchenemy

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Well, I guess hosting an AMA on the site that 2 recent mass shooters hung around and posted their manifestos to gets you awarded.

🤷
 

Miracle Ache

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The gaming community rewarding the support of white supremacy and pedophilia? Can't say I'm surprised. Disgusted, but not surprised.
 

Captain of Outer Space

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As already stated earlier in this thread, this is the only place where people still care and combined with this site's already bad reputation among the general gaming public (i'm actually quite convinced that there are people out there who think Era is to Neogaf what 8chan was to 4chan, as ridicules as that might sound) most people in the company probably believe that Lars official apology was enough.
The people you're talking about are likely people sympathetic to KIA/8chan/alt-right and hates any place willing to call out shitty things that companies or individuals do, so I'd guess that the site doesn't have a bad reputation to reasonable people.
 

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Im not going to say all the people that voted for them knew what happened, but some people here seem to be happy about that
 

Kafkaswaffle

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Disgusting, but hardly surprising. Still, without further developments, I won't buy a THQ Nordic game in the foreseeable future.
 

TheMrPliskin

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Disappointing but not exactly surprising. The 8chan AMA was quickly forgotten and wasn't treated as a particularly big deal in the first place. A lot of people may not be aware and even if they were aware a large percentage don't give a shit.
 

OptiveLink

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Diggeh have you contacted THQN to tell them this and how the gaming community feel about it and what action you think should be taken?

Also what would be a satisfactory conclusion? The firing of those involved along with an apology?
1. Because it's only him that thinks that, of course. You can ignore the rest of the posts on the thread that support that same stance, I guess. Whatever fits your little show.
2. Actions speak louder than words. Look at 3D Realms. They handled the situation, sent an honest response, DIDN'T TRY TO BLAME EVERYONE ELSE FOR THEIR MISTAKES, and donated to a cause. A publisher like THQ could easily do that. Step up, admit what went down and how they messed up, and take action.

No one is calling for "gotta fire em all" or whatever nonsense you think but you're too busy being defensive and not following most of the posts so I don't expect you to understand that part.
 

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to actually give a shit? or at the very least stop being toxic assholes when people are trying to spread awareness.

I agree that their behaviour was shitty I'm not going to lie and say that I'd go beyond that and start a campaign or something. But People on here who feel very strongly about this could go beyond this forum because I don't think it has the reach that some think it has. And good luck to them with that. I don't begrudge their persistance in that regard.
 

Yesterday

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Going by this logic, we shouldn't discuss the ever rising problem of white nationalism and white terror, because in your optics we would just promote it and serve as a recruit tool. Yeah, we should just ignore it, that'll make the nazis go away, sure.
Their actual crime from what I can tell is signal boosting a shitty pedo site. I'm not sure why you're comparing that with Nazism. It's not like this is happening in threads about the pedo site it's happening in every single THQ related thread, even the spongebob threads. It's doing more harm than good.
 

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Not really that surprising but really disappointing. Weird reading this as I JUST bought Darksiders on the switch used.
 

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1. Because it's only him that thinks that, of course. You can ignore the rest of the posts on the thread that support that same stance, I guess. Whatever fits your little show.
2. Actions speak louder than words. Look at 3D Realms. They handled the situation, sent an honest response, DIDN'T TRY TO BLAME EVERYONE ELSE FOR THEIR MISTAKES, and donated to a cause. A publisher like THQ could easily do that. Step up, admit what went down and how they messed up, and take action.

No one is calling for "gotta fire em all" or whatever nonsense you think but you're too busy being defensive and not following most of the posts so I don't expect you to understand that part.

OK so the goal is to get a better form of apology out of THQ? I'm not being deliberately defensive here. I'm trying to understand what can be done beyond posting on here. I guess I'm not as optimistic about the effect of posting on here about their shitty behaviour as others. And I'm not suggesting people want everyone fired. I myself think the person mainly responsible should have stepped down at the time and a proper apology be made.
 
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1. Because it's only him that thinks that, of course. You can ignore the rest of the posts on the thread that support that same stance, I guess. Whatever fits your little show.
2. Actions speak louder than words. Look at 3D Realms. They handled the situation, sent an honest response, DIDN'T TRY TO BLAME EVERYONE ELSE FOR THEIR MISTAKES, and donated to a cause. A publisher like THQ could easily do that. Step up, admit what went down and how they messed up, and take action.

No one is calling for "gotta fire em all" or whatever nonsense you think but you're too busy being defensive and not following most of the posts so I don't expect you to understand that part.
2 is a good point, had era not stepped up and made some noise 3d relams wouldn't have done shit
 

Dolce

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Being a gamer is always going to require a severe case of cognitive dissonance. Nintendo, yet again, is barely improving its sourcing of conflict materials. Every Nintendo product you buy directly finances human rights abuses.

It's not just a simple case of right wing gamers, which yes we are awash in, because plenty of left wing gamers who enjoy THQ games exist and they are swallowing their beliefs to continue enjoying something they enjoy. We all do it.
 

OptiveLink

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OK so the goal is to get a better form of apology out of THQ? I'm not being deliberately defensive here. I'm trying to understand what can be done beyond posting on here. I guess I'm not as optimistic about the effect of posting on here about their shitty behaviour as others. And I'm not suggesting people want everyone fired. I myself think the person mainly responsible should have stepped down at the time and a proper apology be made.
When so many users in the thread are here to "Only ERA cares so whatever", "They didn't even know about the site!", or the new "ERA is making it worse by talking about how a pedo site is bad!", sitting on your hands and going "welp that how it be sometimes" isn't helping.

Something as simple as posting that copy-paste might click with some that might not have heard about the whole thing. It's being proactive and it's at least something. Better than half the posters on this thread ready to see the reactions and the good laughs at those that give a shit. Not like the gaming community is known for anything else, mind you. But seeing how others just focus on complaining about the copypasta and talking about how it's useless to complain or that it should be forgotten is the dumbest approach to take.

Their actual crime from what I can tell is signal boosting a shitty pedo site. I'm not sure why you're comparing that with Nazism. It's not like this is happening in threads about the pedo site it's happening in every single THQ related thread, even the spongebob threads. It's doing more harm than good.
8chan was taken down already.
How is it doing more harm?
 
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Arttemis

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Fucking gross. This company deserves to be called out in every public forum they enter. Damnit, Scoville, you had the platform to shame them of their celebration of bigotry.
 

Palette Swap

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Though funnily enough they pretend they were completely unknowing of how bad the site is in their apology.
That's the part that makes the apology so disgustingly disingenuous. They wrote that apology as a bare minimum, counting on people to be satisfied with it, despite that glaring lie, and it worked.

Their actual crime from what I can tell is signal boosting a shitty pedo site. I'm not sure why you're comparing that with Nazism. It's not like this is happening in threads about the pedo site it's happening in every single THQ related thread, even the spongebob threads. It's doing more harm than good.
That site is a pedo site and a Nazi site. We're at what, three white suprematist terrorists with ties to that site ?
 

Volimar

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Disappointing but not exactly surprising. The 8chan AMA was quickly forgotten and wasn't treated as a particularly big deal in the first place. A lot of people may not be aware and even if they were aware a large percentage don't give a shit.


I think this is the reality of it. They just never thought it was that big a deal in the first place.
 
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