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THQ Nordic parent company issues formal apology for the 8Chan AMA
- Thread starter Shard Shinjuku
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A weak opening shot.
But the denouncing and distancing yourself from a known CP peddling site is such an open goal that you have to be purposefully trying to miss if you don't close this whole thing out with an acceptable course of action.
Hope THQ can do the right thing here.
But the denouncing and distancing yourself from a known CP peddling site is such an open goal that you have to be purposefully trying to miss if you don't close this whole thing out with an acceptable course of action.
Hope THQ can do the right thing here.
I have a very good fucking reason to want those responsible fired.
fuck, im very sorry to hear that happened to you...just, wow. fuck.
Screw that. if you can't fire them legally, just hire someone to firebomb their house. That's the only reasonable punishment in a situation like this.
But yes, you are correct and the people demanding immediate, public firings are letting their emotions override their reasoning.
yeah, they'd fall under the EU's umbrella right?
given what we've learned about the guy who made this call, I don't see him surviving the investigation
they're likely just getting everything in order to be able to do it
dude just no, I made a stupid hot take on this back the day it happened and deservedly got smacked down for it (even was banned) but with everything we know now (and I should have known when I posted given I stupidly didn't read up on the thread first) there's no way you can justifiably call this a witch hunt based on what went down
it's very important to me that all of the people who either dismissed this as not being an issue or said that this won't stop them from purchasing their games reads this postI have a very good fucking reason to want those responsible fired.
I read the post, didn't dismiss it at all, but I don't understand this compulsion some people here have with dictating other people's choices and judging them if they don't exactly align exactly with theirs especially those who spoke out about THQs behavior and failures in this instance.
You know my problem with this comment is the fact that the proof is sprawled all over that abomination of a forum, with names and tweets attached. The "details" are right in front of you.
At least the guy that actually did answer the questions should get the boot.
Some of those answers he gave were really not ok..
It's mindblowing that apparently a "mistake" this grievous resulted in everybody involved still keeping their jobs.
Makes the whole we sorry thing really worthless and fake.
Isn't that kinda just like posting on Twitter? /s
THQNordic like.
Yeah. It is not just the fact that they did the ama, but how it went down.
You could somehow excuse it, if they only had heard the name 8chan before and that a lot of "gamers" are there, but they would have stopped the ama after visiting the page for the first time, or at least after some of the questionable question were posted.
But no, the guy rode just with it..
This isn't about dictating every choice someone makes, it's about enabling a company who directly linked to and participated with a website known for abuse and pedophilia. It's not that deep
Just let us know how this whole thing came to be. In full detail. Like, how did everyone agree that, of all places, 8chan is the place to do an AMA. Then fire everyone involved, report all of them to the police for possible child porn possession.
Last but not least, skip that whole we so sorry bullshit, because none will ever be accepted. They will never get a cent from me again.
Last but not least, skip that whole we so sorry bullshit, because none will ever be accepted. They will never get a cent from me again.
someone said that Austrian labor laws are so tight, an employer can't fire an employee before the latter exhausts three strikes, unless it can be proven that the emplywe's misconduct was intentional
Dunno if any of that is true. I'd have fired the Pr guy and incurred whatever settlement I would've have had to go through, at least.
Dunno if any of that is true. I'd have fired the Pr guy and incurred whatever settlement I would've have had to go through, at least.
The PR overseer enabled it and should be fired for being incompetent, willfully or not, and the employees of THQ who frequenting the cesspools and have a digital history of toxic rhetoric or actions should similarly be reprimanded (side note: I didn't even know 8ccan existed before). I'd like more details before I take action that directly affects other employees who had absolutely nothing to do with the PR person's colossal fuck up. You do whatever you have to morally, ethically but chastizing others because they don't fall in step seems... counterproductive.
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I'll repeat what people have said because so many seem to not understand, but firing someone in EU can take weeks, especially for something like this or where there's dispute as to who actually is to blame.
It likely has to go through HR, disciplinary hearings etc. Sometimes you have to have a verbal, then written then final warning.
I imagine the persons involved have been suspended while everything is put in place but the intention is there to fire them.
Employment law here exists to protect people, but it also makes it hard to get rid of shit employees.
It likely has to go through HR, disciplinary hearings etc. Sometimes you have to have a verbal, then written then final warning.
I imagine the persons involved have been suspended while everything is put in place but the intention is there to fire them.
Employment law here exists to protect people, but it also makes it hard to get rid of shit employees.
While I do believe the correct response is to remove those directly responsible from their positions, I don't think parading someone's firing on Twitter is the way to do it. That certainly doesn't go with any EU employee laws I've ever heard of. That would just constitute a public lynching, which seems to be what some people are after.
This so much. People here are so used to the US way of things where people can be fired in an instance without cause, so it is super easy to get rid of someone immediately when they mess up to the nth degree like the folks at THQ Nordic. But this could take weeks in the EU to get resolved, the parent company could still be doing the right thing, it is just going to take time and as part of the process they aren't allowed to immediately say they are firing someone.
The problem is they've yet to handle any of this correctly, so why should anyone back down on the pressure?
Yeah it has been said multiple times already but people don't seem to understand. The laws in EU make it very difficult to fire someone, especially if what they have done is not a breach of contract directly.
There are things that point towards Phil having been suspended. I have a feeling THQ lawyers are currently working on finding a way to fire the individuals involved but that will not be made public until any termination is firmly in place.
There are things that point towards Phil having been suspended. I have a feeling THQ lawyers are currently working on finding a way to fire the individuals involved but that will not be made public until any termination is firmly in place.
While I agree as a whole, but if you are refering to more direct comment on people being fired, it wouldn't be possible to say something like that this early.
But yes, they should have made current statement day 0-1.
Honestly not sure why they want to still work there. They screwed up and know that everyone will be on their ass (hopefully). They should just quit.
I want to see heads roll. I mean, I'm not a fan of THQ's portfolio but I'll be damned if I give them a cent.
Counterproductive to what? This is a very easy moral standpoint to take, we aren't talking about questionable business tactics or off-colour humour, we're talking about a site dedicated to hate and abuse. If you can't take a stand against that you *deserve* to be chastised, letting people just say "yeah well I don't care, I want to play Darksiders" is not a valid response to this
If you aren't going to take a stand against pedophilia and abuse what will you take a stand against? Like if you can't draw a line here why draw one anywhere?
It will just take time for them to thoroughly investigate the issue and then take the appropriate action.
I'm sure everyone would like for ALL involved to face repercussion not just one or two scapegoats, and also implement procedures so this kind of thing doesn't happen again.
It'll take time but they should get there in the end.
I'm sure everyone would like for ALL involved to face repercussion not just one or two scapegoats, and also implement procedures so this kind of thing doesn't happen again.
It'll take time but they should get there in the end.
And when they do then they deserve the credit for that. Not until then.
Guess they'll have to somehow downplay what the site is for investors and partners and such who legit don't know. Better leave the people who don't care in the dark on this.
Yeah. And the fact that people are just accepting this kind of language is very frustrating
I would rather they conduct a thorough investigation instead of rush to get "credit".
If it's as thorough as their investigation as to where they're giving AMAs, then it should already be done.
Where did I say anything about how quickly it happens? They don't deserve the benefit of the doubt until we know they're doing anything. So coming in here saying hey I'm sure they're doing something is meaningless. Until they actually do that's just wishful thinking
I think it would be an investigation as to how this could get approved, through how many channels, what those channels consist of and how they can improve so ensure it doesn't happen again. We all want justice but it just takes time.
Sure. But considering their original statement was "We already said something on Twitter," I'm not really holding my breath that this is anything but damage minimization.
Considering they couldn't even be bothered to say this until after people held their feet to the fire, assuming they're doing the bare minimum at best instead of giving them credit for the effort is pretty important.
i don't understand why pressuring them from all angles until then is a bad thing? they do not deserve the benefit of the doubt.
They might. But they aren't going to do it publicly. As an employer you still need to protect the people that work under you. Even if they mess up this bad.
can we stop calling this "a mess up"
a mess up is when i forget to rinse the shampoo out of my hair, which i've been doing more and more recently.
a mess up is when i forget to rinse the shampoo out of my hair, which i've been doing more and more recently.
do you guys not understand the situation? this wasn't a goof, it was intentional. you don't accidentally do an AMA on 8 fucking chan
No need to throw the baby out with the bath water now, there is still money to be made. Just go with safe terms like "controversial" or "harboring alternate viewpoints" and leave enough grey area in your wording so that you don't piss off any potential customers.
*barf*
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