Speaking of pieces of shit...
Jfc he's really stretching out the Bethesda/EA hate train coverage isn't he?
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THQ Nordic holding an AMA on... 8chan (UP: website linked to multiple mass shootings) READ THREADMARKS
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Jfc he's really stretching out the Bethesda/EA hate train coverage isn't he?
Oh right. The AB, GmbH stuff got me. Thought he was GmbH. But he's probably not? It's so confusing.
There we go. His LinkedIn says THQ Nordic GmbH, not just THQ Nordic, which could mean anything.
So no, he's not tied to the parent company (THQ Nordic AB), I don't think. Except for all those shares.
But yes, he is high up in the company that is THQ Nordic GmbH.
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This is a semi-pivot from the THQ stuff, but man, YouTube is a cesspool for Gamegate and Alt-Right sort of stuff related to gaming and nerddom.
It's really unfortunate.
It's really unfortunate.
So how much time do we give the execs to respond to this before forever branding them as pariahs?
They surely had enough time to think about what to do and I don't believe they are stupid enough to trying to hush the whole affair up, or better said, I still want to believe they actually haven't rolled a 1 on intelligence at character creation, even if everything up to now points to that.
They surely had enough time to think about what to do and I don't believe they are stupid enough to trying to hush the whole affair up, or better said, I still want to believe they actually haven't rolled a 1 on intelligence at character creation, even if everything up to now points to that.
They know who fills their paychecks each month. They know their audience.
You get people like The Quartering siding with THQ and pedos while his audience laps it up wholesale. Then you get people like YongYea who "tries" to appear neutral yet makes it very obvious to anybody with half a brain the type of person he really is. He doesn't say anything so that if things really get heated (because a major publisher doing an AMA on a banned site SOMEHOW isn't already?) he can eventually put something up and make it seem like he's been in agreement with the outrage all along.
By not saying anything, YongYea really just takes the saying "better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt" and runs with it.
Speaking of pieces of shit...
Just gamer priorities, you know... What a fucking joke.
If you want Pillars, get the Steam PC version. I also think the digital switch version has nothing to do with them. They only did physical copies AFAIK.
People are getting canned internally but I can't image THQ doesn't walk away relatively unscathed. In the past companies have shown necessary contrition, perhaps made a tweak here or there, and then gone on with business as usual; especially since the outrage storm will quickly descend upon a new target. I mean last week it was Atlus (did they even release a statement?), now it's THQ Nordic. Soon they'll be out of the pressure cooker and someone new will take their place.
So speak with your money if you really want to impart a message, personally I just doubt the repercussions will be significant.
So speak with your money if you really want to impart a message, personally I just doubt the repercussions will be significant.
I have been vocal of my disdain for Jim's reporting style in the past, but he has earned my respect and a subscriber by not ignoring this shit.
This is one of the cases that when people at fault are canned they do not keep it internally but they shout it to the world: "Look, we punished/fired the ones responsible for the 8chan AMA." I mean If they really want to restore their image to the non nazi, no pedophile folk.
Nothing close to it has happened yet, nazis should be opening champagnes now, they have normalized them.
Are they? Is there some news?
And if so, are they actually the people who should be getting canned?
It's pretty clear the youtubers who are silent are doing so because their audience are gamergaters, and 8chan is gamergate HQ (one of them, anyway).
So even if they aren't gaters themselves, their shtick is Always "you're great, the industry sucks", so saying 8chan is bad will be seen by their audience as an attack. And we know what gaters do when someone says they aren't perfect beings of logic and righteousness.
That's the best case scenario though, where they're scared of their audience. Just as likely is they don't care or are gaters themselves.
So even if they aren't gaters themselves, their shtick is Always "you're great, the industry sucks", so saying 8chan is bad will be seen by their audience as an attack. And we know what gaters do when someone says they aren't perfect beings of logic and righteousness.
That's the best case scenario though, where they're scared of their audience. Just as likely is they don't care or are gaters themselves.
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Yes but also, like, speak with your words. Bad PR is much more damaging for them than a handful people silently not buying their games. What are you personally doing to make sure the repercussions are more significant than you predict?
Maybe, depends how they conduct their business.
Well unless this was their plan, then everything is going swimmingly.
Well it's a zero-sum game because I doubt either will be that damaging.
If I thought my actions could change the outcome, my prediction would change as well.
Ever considered that maybe you have just been convinced that you have a lot less power than you actually do? I've said it before in this thread, but that's just incredibly sad and I see it everywhere in gaming circles. It's like peoples' agency has become almost paralyzed. Can't blame you, of course, but it is in fact an illusion. There is a lot you can do that would have a lasting impact on THQ Nordic in this case.
Probably best not to do that as the last few times I think the results generally shocked people. Not sure why tbh or why people are shocked some dont care. Every month seems like some fucked up story breaks, outrage happen poll goes up and the results "shock' folks.
Friendly reminder that when the whole ArenaNet fiasco happened last year, he did not side with the devs and made about 8 videos where he kept bashing them without pointing out anything gamers did in said event. That tells you everything you need to know about Yong.Speaking of pieces of shit...
Staff post says "You are instead welcome to continue raising the issue in threads relevant to the publisher and its games"
Other staff post in now locked thread says to keep all discussion about this topic in this thread.
I can see how this is going to go already.
Other staff post in now locked thread says to keep all discussion about this topic in this thread.
I can see how this is going to go already.
Well joining the crusade just to prove you wrong are questionable motives, so for the time being the extent of my agency on this one is continuing to not buy games I had no plans to get anyway. But it's good advice for people more invested and less skeptical than myself.
Hoping that was just because it was an old thread that was bumped and they aren't going to try to contain the discussion in the future.
Is discussion on THQ games technically banned if this is the only THQ thread which doesn't get locked? :thinking:
As long as good people continue to speak out, it won't work that way in practice.
And if the mods want to lock all THQ threads except for this one, then good on them.
The only way you will see some sort of repercussions for THQ is if all the brands and dev teams that they own come together and make a stink. That association with their parent company is too egregious to let it get swept under the rug.
Other than that, nobody will hold them accountable
Other than that, nobody will hold them accountable
They don't, they just couldn't realistically keep the other one running because it turned straight into a "Won't buy any of these games because fuck THQ" thread in which people were explaining the problems we discuss here.
Now, if there were enough vocal allies to turn all threads into that, I think I would be very happy.
Now that's a good question. We are already on 110 pages...
Indeed. Microsoft and Nintendo may be the ticket, as they weild a lot of clout, do not want the reveal of their partnership muddied in the press by this (THQ rumoured to be publishing Microsoft games on switch), and Nintendo has a brand to protect.
Contacted Nick. Don't expect much, but it's something.
I would suggest people contact them as well, and when/if this partnership is announced, people should shout the connection so this doesn't get buried.
"_____ partner with company that supports website known for child porn" isn't what any of them want interfering with their brand.
I would suggest people contact them as well, and when/if this partnership is announced, people should shout the connection so this doesn't get buried.
"_____ partner with company that supports website known for child porn" isn't what any of them want interfering with their brand.
Might be tricky with Nintendo as nothing has been revealed yet, but Microsoft have THQ publish their PC games in Europe.
Nintendo internally must be panicking.
What am I missing in this screenshot? Is something missing that should be there?Speaking of pieces of shit...
That's the way it happens. When was the last time a Kingdom Come (or that other bigot's game) thread got any traction?
The admins already said that this is on-topic discussion for THQ threads.
Probably because it is perceived that Yong is ignoring this news, therefore I suppose he is a piece of shit.
Um yea. The video that addresses the THQ Nordic situation. Instead of yet more "gamers rise up" bullshit.
It does seem like we get a good handful of controversial stories every year, but it probably will be safe to assume that this one will likely be in the Top 3 (as long as nothing else dumb happens). But seriously though, it is going to be hard to top the ignorance of going to a location that is so twisted, even Google wouldn't dare touch it with a 100 foot pole. And this was set up by the their PR and Marketing Director? Did they think that a place like Reddit was too mainstream and no one would go there for an AMA?
Honestly it blows the mind trying to comprehend all of this. You can't play ignorance here and I'm sure if they tried to play it off, they would have been immediately called out on it.
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Hell, I wasn't even aware there was such a thing called 8chan (and I kind of wish that remained a secret)...
Honestly it blows the mind trying to comprehend all of this. You can't play ignorance here and I'm sure if they tried to play it off, they would have been immediately called out on it.
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Hell, I wasn't even aware there was such a thing called 8chan (and I kind of wish that remained a secret)...
Alright thanks. I guess I'm not familiar with that person, so I assume he normally posts major industry news in a timely fashion. Thanks for clarifying.
As expected of a guy that basically harassed a female cosplayer out of the MtG community (and got a lifetime ban from all MtG events for that).
This topic is missing.
Jim Sterling seems to have a video up on this though.
I can't get mad at anybody who wants to boycott THQ stuff, even if it hurts things I deeply care about like Shenmue 3. Normalizing shit like 8chan is not at all right. I really feel bad for devs like Yu Suzuki who have nothing to do with this at all, and who were already into multi-year contracts with deep silver when all this shit blew up, but I'm not going to put video games above the right thing. I'll personally still support Shenmue III, given the unique circumstances, but it's certainly not out of being "above" any sort of boycott.
Yeah, YongYea is one of these gaming Youtubers who more or less regurgitates in video format content related to the usual topics of general publisher greed, lootboxes, microtransactions, upcoming games, general miscellaneous industry stuff without ever really positing any original thoughts of his own. It's serviceable enough for someone only interested in news-related topics that most appeal to the capital G gamers and on its own it wouldn't necessarily be an indictment on his character.
But he's clearly aware that a good chunk of his audience and patrons are the sort of capital G gamer crowd that are the virulent "keep politics out of games" and the anti-SJW types. And it seems the last thing he wants is to rock the boat and find himself making anything more than milquetoast content that will enrage much of his audience. It's why he's comfortable enough to churn out video after video of Anthem, why EA is bad, Fallout 76, ooh look how great Cyberpunk 2077 looks - CDPR is the best! - while occasionally showing his true colours such as the time he covered the Jessica Price and ArenaNet farce from last year and the angle with which he approached the topic.
So as you can see, he's dead quiet on this particular issue and predictably so. It's far easier and far less "controversial" to come out with the umpteenth video about EA bad! instead of adopting the moral fortitude of someone like Jim Sterling and really call out THQ Nordic for several of its members disgustingly fraternising with regulars of such a deplorable website. I speculated earlier on that if this were EA or Activision or whatever hated triple-A publisher instead, most gaming Youtubers far and wide would gleefully take up the opportunity to inundate their channels with discussions on this topic, though probably less from the moral angle of being outraged at their being associated with child porn and extreme racism & homophobia and more because it's seemingly unlimited extra ammo to take potshots at these hated publishers with.
I either forgot that he did that or I just didn't know in the first place. It feels like so long ago that I probably just forgot with everything else that's gone on since. Honestly, he's done so much other, similar crap that I'm still not surprised.
Yeah. He's one of those "reactionary" YouTubers that somehow fancies themselves better than actual journalists yet is incredibly biased and panders to very specific audiences (I bet you can guess which types of people those are). I figure a few days time was enough to call him out on this. I even waited until he got his daily video up today to see if he finally covered it. He did not. He instead made a 10+ minute long video (somehow) over a single-sentence tweet about Cyberpunk 2077 being at E3 that was made literally earlier today.
Edit: I was going to expand on who he is but the post above mine does a tremendous job of doing just that.
It makes ALL the sense if you read through the Marketing director's LinkedIn page. His motto seems to be to "push the boundaries" and live through life not caring if they screw up & "get a few bumps & bruises" along the way. To not give a single damn about "typical corporate BS" in his corporate life & corporate marketing job. It's safe to say he thinks Reddit AMAs are too safe, too tried & true, so why not go for an edgier angle? Be a bad boy of marketing and enter the realm of the "rebels" who exist outside the usual social media circles, to get some bad boy clout. Play along with that racism, homophobia & pedophilia, it's just for Teh LulZ0rZ. This is one of those "bumps & bruises", I reckon.
I have tried and tried to think of any sort of analogue to how this turned out. Its like a small town letting the KKK have a float in the Christmas parade, having the mayor march and wave with them, and then get surprised when there's massive blow back. Maybe somebody is trying to sink the stock so another company can buy the IPs for pennies on the dollar. I'm honestly not trying to push conspiracy theories, I just cannot fundamentally understand how any relatively well known company could do this. I mean, you expect the shitheads that designed Hatred to have AMAs on 8chan, not an actual publisher with real sponsorships and business ties.
Whoever said this should win biggest mess of 2019 is right.
Whoever said this should win biggest mess of 2019 is right.