It's tricky due to their set up and there being 2 THQs. But I won't personally put any of this on Deep Silver. THQ side can fuck off though, not good enough, they need to do far more than what they have.
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Ah, yes, sorry, I missed that part. Yeah I would tend to agree with you. And I mean, in a broader sense it really sucks for all the devs that work for THQ Nordic who had nothing to do with this, as is evidenced by the Waypoint article.
But I think ultimately it's more of a symbolic gesture anyways. The potential lack of ResetEra discussion about those games is going to have a negligible impact on actual sales or the livelihoods of those developers, and I think it does send a message to those higher up executives who thought this was a good idea, and hopefully to their bosses who have decided not to fire them.
There's no dancing involved here, it's exactly what I see happening with games. If there's no thread on latest THQ game on ResetERA the regulars will notice it anyway and the general public will just end up elsewhere when googling it. If there is a thread with sticky message about the incident then maybe someone will actually stumble upon it, learn about it and decide that's too much.
I actually think the WaPo article is too soft. It doesn't point out the obvious lies in Reinhard's statement and seems to frame Gamergate as a legitimate movement that went wrong. It's trying way too hard to appear neutral.
Thanks for clarifying the stance of the site. Also want to give props to the mod team for doing a good job keeping this thread updated so quickly.
As they participated on a site where childporn is hosted they deserve jailtime imo. Heck one of the THQ dudes responded to a freakin loli art with theres plenty already.
Actions deserve consequences.
Actions deserve consequences.
washington post article is very well done. I am pretty disappointed with how most of the games press covered this, there are some good examples and Patrick Klepek doing what he does best. bringing those scoops.
They have in the sense that they haven't put any pressure on their business partners by asking them for comment, haven't announced any adjustments to their own future coverage of the company, and barely even individually editorialized their own thoughts on twitter or in articles about how this should reflect on the company.
Altogether, that leaves THQ Nordic off the hook for short term consequences and gives that bad website a bigger platform with more publicity than if it just stayed on THQ Nordic's twitter account. Maybe things would be different if words like "Microsoft", "EA", or "Nickelodeon" showed up in any context whatsoever in these articles.
Who knows what the long term consequences will be, but people generally have very poor memories about this sort of thing.
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I understand what your trying to say, but using the weird burger king comparison is pointless because it just undercuts the issue without adding anything
It's only February and I think we already have 2019's Fail of the Year winner here. How much does the game industry needs to fuck up to top this? Not even Konami at its worst can top this. Or Fallout 76.
This will blow up fast when more of the mainstream gets wind of it. As it should.
What are you doing, you stupid dumb idiots. How have you not fired the employee responsible for endorsing 8chan with your brand yet. Why are you burning your billion-dollar company to the ground. How has not one executive stepped in to do the simple, right and obvious thing in response to this issue. What the fuck...
yep, there is no beating this, i mean look at the title of the WaPo article
'I do not condone child pornography': Game company backtracks after Q&A on site once banned by Google
If you have to make that statement you fucked up spectacularly
Thank you very helpful
The Washington Post article is good to see, but sees more like an overview with nothing added that hasn't been said already.
Wow this really updated over night eh? Now that the mainstream press has ahold of this they are done. Ain't no company on this planet that would want to openly associate with them when anything revolving child abuse is on the table. Nordic really waded into a shit pool with this one.
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Not an ex gaf member then?
All of this holier than thou
Those that did the deed, yes. Get those folk. The hundreds to thousands that had nothing to do with this....
Honest question: I thought Era did ban games from time to time? Games like Criminal Girls and some others have been banned from discussions, right? Or am I mixed up?
Era will find a way to claim some gameplay decision they don't like is worse. But this is not just the fail of 2019, or even the biggest fail in the industry. This is the Business PR Fail of the Millennium. I really, genuinely cannot think of anything worse that I have ever seen or learned about in business school. And they still haven't fired this fucking guy.
I think that's only because of the content in the games themselves?
Let's be real. Come the Fail of the Year vote, this site will probably vote for Anthem. Because most people have rubbish priorities.
Yeah, there's a list of banned games here. They're mostly games with sexualized child/child-like characters which are also banned on Twitch.
No, let's be real: come the Fail of the Year vote no one will even see it, much less vote in it.
2018's FOTY vote AND results thread were depressingly barren and overlooked. Hardly anyone cared.
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Hey, they can do the right thing and fire/remove these people responsible & participants from the company and wash their hands of this completely, instead of acting like the victims and being all "but Mark was so nice" and I'm sure people would be able to move past this. If they fire developers rather than take responsibility themselves, that's (even more) on them, not us.
OTs are basically free advertisement for these companies. Nothing wrong with banning them.
So why did SweetNicole say Era doesn't ban games when it has clearly done so in the past? I must be confused about something here.
I'm not saying we should ban THQ games, I'm just confused to what she, as a mod, posted here.
As of right now, I don't think there's been any word at all from any of their business partners, and at this rate there might not ever be.
The games on the banned list are subject to complete bans; no threads or discussion whatsoever. What we're not doing is partial bans on some aspects of a game and not others.
The threadpost says there's no such thing as a partial ban, not that they don't ban games from discussion.
Ah you see, that's what has me confused then. I don't know what's the difference here.
I see now. Thank you!
Is there any place I could see what are the banned games on Era? Because I honestly don't know which are.
Dude it was literally copy pasted to you in another post (4924) lol
I wasn't talking about banning discussion of THQ and this controversy, just banning OTs, which actively promote their games. I don't see how that's shutting down criticism considering that under that scenario, we would still be able to criticize THQ, we just wouldn't be able to actively promote their games. And if this were Nintendo people would be just as outraged and this would probably be hitting bigger media outlets since everyone knows Nintendo.
OT, but why I don't see why D I Z was banned, is there supposed to be an explanation? Thanks.
You know what I find funny in a depressing way?
LADbible did a better article on this than most mainstream gaming media outlets. Fucking LADbible.
LADbible did a better article on this than most mainstream gaming media outlets. Fucking LADbible.
I gotta admit, if WaPo hadn't picked this story up, it might have died down over the next couple of days.
Hell, it still might. Gaming news outlets have done a poor job.
Thank you
Sorry I missed that. This thread is moving so fast.
She said that they're not banning games just because they're made by THQ, and that there was no such thing as a "partial ban" of a game. Individual games can still get banned due to specific content.
Those games discussions are banned here because of the content of the games. Mainly because they're pornographic I think. The ban on them is more like saying don't post or discuss porn on the forums.
But regarding general boycotts vs banning discussion of games. I basically refuse to eat at a lot of restaurants like Chick-Fil-A, Arby's, Carl's Junior for their conservative stances regarding school shootings or just throwing money at politicians/policies that harm minority groups.
That doesn't mean I'd want to ban discussion of those restaurants. In fact I'd probably just use such threads to shit on them for their past actions and continue raising awareness of why they shouldn't be supported.
But regarding general boycotts vs banning discussion of games. I basically refuse to eat at a lot of restaurants like Chick-Fil-A, Arby's, Carl's Junior for their conservative stances regarding school shootings or just throwing money at politicians/policies that harm minority groups.
That doesn't mean I'd want to ban discussion of those restaurants. In fact I'd probably just use such threads to shit on them for their past actions and continue raising awareness of why they shouldn't be supported.
Why is that depressing? Shouldn't it be encouraging that places outside gaming will pick up the slack when gaming media does its normal totally poor ass job at journalism?
Really good coverage from Vice here.
https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/art...ebsite-banned-for-suspected-child-pornography
These people should be fired immediately.
https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/art...ebsite-banned-for-suspected-child-pornography
These people should be fired immediately.
well ladbible did kinda start as page that just posted sexist jokes and other trash.
I feel gross having just read the 'Summary' threadmark... Ignorance truly is bliss when it comes to the horrible side of the internet...