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Oct 25, 2017
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Ok, time for real talk.

If anyone thinks this was just a "stupid mistake", then you're getting had.

This was 100% an attempt to signal boost to a specific audience in order to gain a loyal following that sees "a company who openly admits to rejecting SJW censorship".

They can backpedal, but just like when Trump back peddled after a nazi rammed his car into a crowd, the white nationalists saw what he said and openly admitted that the back pedal was just to cover his tracks, while embracing his "both sides" speech as an open invitation and admission he was on their side.
All of this.
 

Hey Please

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Oct 31, 2017
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There'd be a lot more downplaying if child porn wasn't a thing here, but child porn is so baked into what 8 chan is and its reputation that that scenario would be entirely different.

For one the site wouldn't be blacklisted by google.

Guess that's the reason why most outlets covering this story are only mentioning 8chan's association with child porn in the headline.
 

Twinduct

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Oct 27, 2017
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Guess that's the reason why most outlets covering this story are only mentioning 8chan's association with child porn in the headline.

Which is pretty annoying as the counter narrative is pulling on that CP was a thing of the past for the site and it's all just outrage culture right now.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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TIL 15 hours is "very quick" in a scenario this damaging.

And apparently limply claiming "sorry, I didn't research the site" is a good enough apology. Which is a special kind of bullshit when you consider the kind of language the Phillip guy was using in discussions with people on that site, implying he knew full well what kind of shithole it was and the people who frequent it.
 

JAGMASK

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Jan 3, 2018
422
What the fuck have I woken up to? THQN can fuck right off forever then.

Fucking monkey paw wishes being granted over Timesplitters.

"I wish that timesplitters had a revival"

"Wish granted, but the conpany in charge endorses a website devoted to child porn"

"Wait, what?"
 

apocat

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Oct 27, 2017
10,047
Ok, time for real talk.

If anyone thinks this was just a "stupid mistake", then you're getting had.

This was 100% an attempt to signal boost to a specific audience in order to gain a loyal following that sees "a company who openly admits to rejecting SJW censorship".

They can backpedal, but just like when Trump back peddled after a nazi rammed his car into a crowd, the white nationalists saw what he said and openly admitted that the back pedal was just to cover his tracks, while embracing his "both sides" speech as an open invitation and admission he was on their side.

Pretty much this. I could have accepted that this was down to incompetence if the representative didn't very clearly interact with the 8channers in the way that he did during the AMA. But the reciepts, or in this case, screengrabs are there for the world to see.
 

Ojli

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Oct 28, 2017
2,652
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"I do not condone child pornography, white supremacy, or racism in any shape or form."

So he does condone homophobia?
 

Jonnykong

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Oct 27, 2017
7,901
I can only apologise in advance for my naivety, but how is it a site that's "known" for child porn not been shut down yet?
 

tyfon

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Nov 2, 2017
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Yes and no. It's putting the backpedaling on the front, instead of the main issue.

I think having to do that kind of "backpedalling" is damning in itself.
They also enlarged it and it's clearly a quote, nobody would think that this was something you would say if you had done nothing wrong and was just apologising.
To me it seems fitting. It directly links the company to child porn in the headline.
 

Danzflor

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Oct 27, 2017
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I can only apologise in advance for my naivety, but how is it a site that's "known" for child porn not been shut down yet?
They basically operate in the dark web. Unless the FBI or another governamental entity shut it down, they can still be there. And, by the info of all the people siding with 8ch, apparently they do not allow CP on their boards. People can post it but they quickly remove it and, alledegly, they even cooperate with the FBI forwarding IP's. So keeping their home CP free apparently makes them still being around, althought they reputation is already forever tainted.
 

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They basically operate in the dark web. Unless the FBI or another governamental entity shut it down, they can still be there. And, by the info of all the people siding with 8ch, apparently they do not allow CP on their boards. People can post it but they quickly remove it and, alledegly, they even cooperate with the FBI forwarding IP's. So keeping their home CP free apparently makes them still being around, althought they reputation is already forever tainted.
There's a board called "toddlercon"
 
Oct 25, 2017
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They basically operate in the dark web. Unless the FBI or another governamental entity shut it down, they can still be there. And, by the info of all the people siding with 8ch, apparently they do not allow CP on their boards. People can post it but they quickly remove it and, alledegly, they even cooperate with the FBI forwarding IP's. So keeping their home CP free apparently makes them still being around, althought they reputation is already forever tainted.
There is child porn on 8chan. Stop trying to downplay it.
 

Kehaan

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Feb 27, 2019
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New member here. Been a reader of this site since the beginning, so good to finally be a part of the site.

Like 20 or so minutes after they announced the AMA, i decide to contact Lars Wingefors (He have his contact mail public at his site). And after a while he replied, which i atleast found nice of him to do, he said they had commented on it on twitter.

However, i also replied to him stateing that the AMA link is still up on their twitter, so their "sorry" did not mean anything. Also linked to some of the examples of what was going on, and links to the thread here.

I thought it was nice of him to reply, BUT i really hope he steps in, and will do something about this. Like for sure remove the AMA link... And also maaay want to look for other PR people. I guess time will tell, what/if any he decides to do.

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Irminsul

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Oct 25, 2017
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Just as an aside, 8chan ist most definitely not the "dark web", because then you couldn't just access it with a normal web browser. It's maybe part of the hidden web because Google doesn't list it, but then again, other search engines do. Which only emphasises the question how this website can still be out in the open.
 

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Also, while Kotaku and co are downplaying it, seems like this has been picked up by the popular UK shit tier tabloids, the Sun and the Metro.

It's also on the HuffPost.

Edit: Also, 8c is not darkweb. It isn't hidden by onion networks or anything like that. It probably should be though.
 

Danzflor

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Just as an aside, 8chan ist most definitely not the "dark web", because then you couldn't just access it with a normal web browser. It's maybe part of the hidden web because Google doesn't list it, but then again, other search engines do. Which only emphasises the question how this website can still be out in the open.

Line skirting, domain name changes, multiple servers, changing hosts, word of mouth.

Lot of attention on 8chan atm, hopefully they feel a bit of heat shortly.
 

jph139

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Oct 25, 2017
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I can only apologise in advance for my naivety, but how is it a site that's "known" for child porn not been shut down yet?

Plausible deniability and skirting legal lines. "Oh we had no idea that was there, very sorry, we'll clean that up..."

That only goes so far, but even if/when the authorities step in another one will pop up sooner or later. These communities have existed since the dawn of the internet - they know how to regroup.
 

Bunnyman12

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Oct 29, 2017
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I would like to say that I can think of worse companies to be upset with. like the big banks and textile companies also sugar companies ect. that benefited greatly off of chattel slavery. where babies were used as alligator bait and had heads cut off to be used as balls. we still buy from these companies to this day! so where is the outrage about that? where is the outrage over joe buck killing two black men at his home with no charges because he's a LGBTQ liberal donor and even now is hanging around another possible black soon to be victim?

the point I am trying to make is some are way too quick to judge selectively I might add people or companies so I myself will not be boycotting THQ until people start boycotting the LGBTQ for what joe buck has done to those two black men and how they come and gentrify black and brown neighborhoods then call the police on them for any reason knowing that that could possibly be a death sentence. or boycott katy perry for her blackface shoes I could go on and on.

and lastly I'm not bashing anyone but I'm just making a point that all this outrage over an AMA which I have to say the guy is an idiot for doing will make one wash their hands of a company that just a couple of days ago was the darling of the industry and could do no wrong. I hear many on era say it's a shame when mass layoffs happen but if this company folds because of this then another mass layoff will happen, which means people who had nothing to do with what happened will suffer when they are just trying to feed their families.
 

lmcfigs

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Oct 25, 2017
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So a couple of queries:

  • Hypothetically, if child porn (the worst) was not part of 8chan, would the discussions and its proliferation been as large as it has been thus far? - Remember that that board openly engages in racism and all manners of bigotry (the AMA provided tons of examples).
  • Do Era admins and/or mods plan to blacklist YTubers who come to the defence of THQN by blaming the "SJWs"?
People are focusing on the child porn thing because it's super bad. But yeah the whole site is filled with literal neo-nazis and pretty explicit racism.
 

Chairmanchuck (另一个我)

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Oct 25, 2017
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I would like to say that I can think of worse companies to be upset with. like the big banks and textile companies also sugar companies ect. that benefited greatly off of chattel slavery. where babies were used as alligator bait and had heads cut off to be used as balls. we still buy from these companies to this day! so where is the outrage about that? where is the outrage over joe buck killing two black men at his home with no charges because he's a LGBTQ liberal donor and even now is hanging around another possible black soon to be victim?

the point I am trying to make is some are way too quick to judge selectively I might add people or companies so I myself will not be boycotting THQ until people start boycotting the LGBTQ for what joe buck has done to those two black men and how they come and gentrify black and brown neighborhoods then call the police on them for any reason knowing that that could possibly be a death sentence. or boycott katy perry for her blackface shoes I could go on and on.

and lastly I'm not bashing anyone but I'm just making a point that all this outrage over an AMA which I have to say the guy is an idiot for doing will make one wash their hands of a company that just a couple of days ago was the darling of the industry and could do no wrong. I hear many on era say it's a shame when mass layoffs happen but if this company folds because of this then another mass layoff will happen, which means people who had nothing to do with what happened will suffer when they are just trying to feed their families.

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I would like to say that I can think of worse companies to be upset with. like the big banks and textile companies also sugar companies ect. that benefited greatly off of chattel slavery. where babies were used as alligator bait and had heads cut off to be used as balls. we still buy from these companies to this day! so where is the outrage about that? where is the outrage over joe buck killing two black men at his home with no charges because he's a LGBTQ liberal donor and even now is hanging around another possible black soon to be victim?

the point I am trying to make is some are way too quick to judge selectively I might add people or companies so I myself will not be boycotting THQ until people start boycotting the LGBTQ for what joe buck has done to those two black men and how they come and gentrify black and brown neighborhoods then call the police on them for any reason knowing that that could possibly be a death sentence. or boycott katy perry for her blackface shoes I could go on and on.

and lastly I'm not bashing anyone but I'm just making a point that all this outrage over an AMA which I have to say the guy is an idiot for doing will make one wash their hands of a company that just a couple of days ago was the darling of the industry and could do no wrong. I hear many on era say it's a shame when mass layoffs happen but if this company folds because of this then another mass layoff will happen, which means people who had nothing to do with what happened will suffer when they are just trying to feed their families.


But what about...
Ok.
 

Danzflor

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,710
People are focusing on the child porn thing because it's super bad. But yeah the whole site is filled with literal neo-nazis and pretty explicit racism.
I believe this is super important. Defenders of the site will keep coming claiming "we do not allow CP", but regardless of that, 8ch is still a platform that allows hate movements to exist and flourish.
 

Aeron

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Oct 27, 2017
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"Boycott LGBTQ" huh?...
3 Messages, what-aboutism and throw those liberal lefties in for good measure.

Gee I wonder where they regularly visit...
 

Basarili

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Oct 27, 2017
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Haarlem
Wait. Not a lynch again. But hold on. They can say stuff they want, but is it true about pedo employees they have, because then they can go down.
 

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I would like to say that I can think of worse companies to be upset with. like the big banks and textile companies also sugar companies ect. that benefited greatly off of chattel slavery. where babies were used as alligator bait and had heads cut off to be used as balls. we still buy from these companies to this day! so where is the outrage about that? where is the outrage over joe buck killing two black men at his home with no charges because he's a LGBTQ liberal donor and even now is hanging around another possible black soon to be victim?

the point I am trying to make is some are way too quick to judge selectively I might add people or companies so I myself will not be boycotting THQ until people start boycotting the LGBTQ for what joe buck has done to those two black men and how they come and gentrify black and brown neighborhoods then call the police on them for any reason knowing that that could possibly be a death sentence. or boycott katy perry for her blackface shoes I could go on and on.

and lastly I'm not bashing anyone but I'm just making a point that all this outrage over an AMA which I have to say the guy is an idiot for doing will make one wash their hands of a company that just a couple of days ago was the darling of the industry and could do no wrong. I hear many on era say it's a shame when mass layoffs happen but if this company folds because of this then another mass layoff will happen, which means people who had nothing to do with what happened will suffer when they are just trying to feed their families.
I'm glad you're banned you piece of shit