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THQ Nordic holding an AMA on... 8chan (UP: website linked to multiple mass shootings) READ THREADMARKS

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Akai

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Oct 25, 2017
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I still fail to understand how a website like 8chan can still exist? These people need severe attention of the law enforcement.

Also, the responses by THQ are an incredible disappointment. What a fucking mess this entire thing is, especially with the updated information...
 
derFeef

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C-Dub said:
A good way to avoid inadvertently buying one of their games (on PC at least) is to ignore them as a publisher on Steam.

Just go to their publisher page, click the little gear icon and click 'Ignore this creator'.

It doesn't hide all their games from the store completely, but every time one appears Steam will tell you that you've ignored this publisher. By repeating the above process you can undo this, should they ever clean up their act and make amends for this.
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You can also report the creator. Not sure if that does anything tho... I geuss it has the same effect as last time when people cancelled/deleted their GOG account. Not a single thing :(
 
lmcfigs

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TheHyde said:
So they seriously dont give a shit? Some completely unrelated unfortunate studios under them have to defend themselves while the corporate management does nothing? No comment from their billionaire owner? WTF...are they actually this clueless?
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maybe if they ignore it, people will move on...
 
Menome

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hanmik said:
Yesterday when I was browsing Twitter, I looked at my "Who to follow" list.. and.. oh my.. I saw "Amirox" as a suggestion.. this had to be some kind of Omen right?.. it was many hours before this happened..
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Hopefully just some innocent person who blundered into the free username once it became vacant...

My own username, whilst fairly unique and a made-up name, still gets taken in the oddest non-gaming related places.
 
SantaC

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breaking news from a Swedish stockholder news channel where Lars Wingefors has been quoted right now saying that he will take care of this and correct it:

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https://www.efn.se/


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Menome

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SantaC said:
breaking news from a Swedish stockholder news channel where Lars Wingefors has been quoted right now saying that he will take care of this and correct it:

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https://www.efn.se/
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Finally, some top-down action. I can only give the benefit of the doubt that he perhaps wasn't fully informed yesterday evening, especially if it's the PR department that passes along information to him.

"Yes sir, we made a slip-up, but apologised on Twitter, just let any reporters know that."
 
andymoogle

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SantaC said:
breaking news from a Swedish stockholder news channel where Lars Wingefors has been quoted right now saying that he will take care of this and correct it:

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https://www.efn.se/


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That was a shit poor interview. "Controversial site". Really? That's it? "They made a mistake" bla bla bla nonsense. Nope. It's not even close to enough.

EDIT: Also, he doesn't say that he will take care of anything or correct this. He considers what they did last night was a correction. Meaning the apology was good enough in his opinion.
 
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Airbar

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SantaC said:
breaking news from a Swedish stockholder news channel where Lars Wingefors has been quoted right now saying that he will take care of this and correct it:

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https://www.efn.se/


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Thqh that is what I expected of them. Problem is just that the work laws in Europe are wholly different to the US so he can't just willy nilly fire people that have been at the company for a very long time. Guess they have their lawyers on the case to see how they can rid themselves of the people involved.
 
crimilde

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SantaC said:
breaking news from a Swedish stockholder news channel where Lars Wingefors has been quoted right now saying that he will take care of this and correct it:

Y5m1OyR.png


https://www.efn.se/


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*tries to downplay the issue and sweep it under the rug*
*doesn't fly w/ the public/press*
*does a 180 and will actually take care of the issue now*

Okay.

andymoogle said:
That was a shit poor interview. "Controversial site". Really? That's it? "They made a mistake" bla bla bla nonsense. Nope. It's not even close to enough.

EDIT: Also, he doesn't say that he will take care of anything or correct this.
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Edit: Oh nevermind then.
 
Horo

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keep imaging a good chunk of 8chan is laughing all the way under their bridges right now.
 
tyfon

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Airbar said:
Thqh that is what I expected of them. Problem is just that the work laws in Europe are wholly different to the US so he can't just willy nilly fire people that have been at the company for a very long time. Guess they have their lawyers on the case to see how they can rid themselves of the people involved.
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You can fire people for not doing their job without issues.
What you can not do is fire someone "without valid reason".
 
Mbolibombo

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This interview he is on is not the place to make some sort of announcement on how they handle this is. He's not going to spill the beans on what is going on.
Clearly he was planned to be on this show earlier and they had a plan what to talk about, honestly surprised they even talked about it at all.

I'll wait the day out before I would pass judgment here, it's pretty much a non answer. I bet that is what we will get until a formal answer is coomunicated.
 
TheMrPliskin

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andymoogle said:
That was a shit poor interview. "Controversial site". Really? That's it? "They made a mistake" bla bla bla nonsense. Nope. It's not even close to enough.

EDIT: Also, he doesn't say that he will take care of anything or correct this. He considers what they did last night was a correction. Meaning the apology was good enough in his opinion.
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Christ...imagine being this relaxed about being associated with child porn and all the other trash on that site.
 
Sander VF

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Oct 28, 2017
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andymoogle said:
That was a shit poor interview. "Controversial site". Really? That's it? "They made a mistake" bla bla bla nonsense. Nope. It's not even close to enough.

EDIT: Also, he doesn't say that he will take care of anything or correct this. He considers what they did last night was a correction. Meaning the apology was good enough in his opinion.
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I was about to start believing that he was going to save this mess and then I read your post.

THQ stays fucked I guess
 
andymoogle

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Mbolibombo said:
This interview he is on is not the place to make some sort of announcement on how they handle this is. He's not going to spill the beans on what is going on.
Clearly he was planned to be on this show earlier and they had a plan what to talk about, honestly surprised they even talked about it at all.

I'll wait the day out before I would pass judgment here, it's pretty much a non answer. I bet that is what we will get until a formal answer is coomunicated.
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True. It was more of a "oh this happened last night, we have to touch on it", but it was never meant to be the main point of the interview. But, it doesn't really matter. He doesn't seem to care much about it either way.
 
Aeron

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There's a near endless list of gaming related sites to do an AMA on than the utter shithole of the internet that is 8chan.

100% those involved are regulars there and are trying to normalise it.
Shit needs to come down hard on them.
 
Volphied

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Eurogamer has finally released an article on this mess

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-02-27-thq-nordic-exec-still-in-job-after-8chan-stunt

Brock does not explain why he failed to "do proper due diligence" researching 8chan, yet simultaneously knew someone at 8chan would need to "take care of the nasty stuff".

Brock does not explain why he engaged with users discussing and posting "loli" images.

Brock does not explain why he engaged with users posting about the "SocJus crowd" on a website used to mount notable campaigns of harassment.

For its part, THQ Nordic has not explained why someone who thought any of this was a good idea continues to be at the helm of the company's PR and marketing division.
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Alpheus

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For a CEO of a publicly traded company that has associated with such filth he's..... certainly lax about the whole thing yeah.
 
Masagiwa

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SantaC said:
breaking news from a Swedish stockholder news channel where Lars Wingefors has been quoted right now saying that he will take care of this and correct it:

Y5m1OyR.png


https://www.efn.se/


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This is basically how it went.

Q: Last night THQ held an AMA on a very controversial site. How do you comment on this?

Lars: We have the parent company and three separate entities that communicate with fans in regards to our games. One of them chose to hold this AMA on a very controversial site which they regretted afterwards as I understand. I have followed this entire situation this morning. I care deeply about morals and equality which are important pillars for us. I think all of us know that last night was a mistake. You have to understand that I communicate from a parent organization's point of view and we have to take care of a lot of different questions and decisions. We recently switch distribution platforms for one of our games which raised some concerns and questions.

Q: How do you handle these types of situations?

Lars: If something goes wrong you have to be very quick to correct it and as I understand that's what they did last night and we will continue to follow this situation.
 

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Masagiwa said:
This is basically how it went.

Q: Last night THQ held an AMA on a very controversial site. How do you comment on this?

Lars: We have the parent company and three separate entities that communicate with fans in regards to our games. One of them chose to hold this AMA on a very controversial site which they regretted afterwards as I understand. I have followed this entire situation this morning. I care deeply about morals and equality which are important pillars for us. I think all of us know that last night was a mistake. You have to understand that I communicate from a parent organization's point of view and we have to take care of a lot of different questions and decisions. We recently switch distribution platforms for one of our games which raised some concerns and questions.

Q: How do you handle these types of situations?

Lars: If something goes wrong you have to be very quick to correct it and as I understand that's what they did last night and we will continue to follow this situation.
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TIL 15 hours is "very quick" in a scenario this damaging.
 
truly101

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Oct 29, 2017
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There is no way you end up on 8 chan without having some idea of what it is, this is like company suicide. I honestly don't know how this came across as a remotely good idea that wouldn't have any blowback. Maybe its the idea that you can make up any story you want, repeat it enough times, and people will believe it.
 
Hey Please

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So a couple of queries:

  • Hypothetically, if child porn (the worst) was not part of 8chan, would the discussions and its proliferation been as large as it has been thus far? - Remember that that board openly engages in racism and all manners of bigotry (the AMA provided tons of examples).
  • Do Era admins and/or mods plan to blacklist YTubers who come to the defence of THQN by blaming the "SJWs"?
 
Mbolibombo

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andymoogle said:
True. It was more of a "oh this happened last night, we have to touch on it", but it was never meant to be the main point of the interview. But, it doesn't really matter. He doesn't seem to care much about it either way.
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Honestly, I thought he looked a bit nervous while they were talking about it. To me, at the very least.
We'll probably see at the end of the day likely on how much he cares or not.
 
Airbar

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tyfon said:
Gross incompetence is a valid reason. In this case I think there would not be much trouble if it went to court.
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You would think so but I have seen to many people keep their jobs after gross incompetence. Like using tens of thousands of Euros for personal stuff (newest MacBook Pro, 3D printer etc) instead of actually using it for the intended purpose, bettering the situation for children from low-income families. So I'm always wary if they can actually get through with it when it comes to firing people for terrible things they do.
 
nillansan

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i-Lo said:
Hypothetically, if child porn (the worst) was not part of 8chan, would the discussions and its proliferation been as large as it has been thus far? - Remember that that board openly engages in racism and all manners of bigotry (the AMA provided tons of examples).
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Honestly? Probably not, keep in mind we still had several posters in here downplaying the issue.
 
NitX

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nillansan said:
The way they carried themselves in the 8Chan thread really made it seem like they knew who they were engaging with.



Dismissing this as "poor edgelord bullshit" is irresponsible as fuck, this is a site that is known for harbouring white supremacists and paedophiles.



Do you propose that we just swipe hurtful actions like this under the rug? The people that engaged with the 8Chan crowd represents the entire company including the studios tied to them.

Also what game are lead developer on?
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Ofcourse not which is why I said there needs to be repercussion for what happened whatever their intention was. I am in no way saying that nothing wrong was done and if that is what is coming off of my posts then I have to apologize.
 
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Menome

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derFeef said:
Nothing will happen there. There is not enough public coverage (or any...) of the issue that shareholders would care.
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It's made it to a couple of mainstream sites like Variety. With a lot of this having happened out of normal office hours for both Europe and the U.S., it might pick up more traction today in the aftermath.
 
AuthenticM

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TheLostBigBoss said:
Ok, time for real talk.

If anyone thinks this was just a "stupid mistake", then you're getting had.

This was 100% an attempt to signal boost to a specific audience in order to gain a loyal following that sees "a company who openly admits to rejecting SJW censorship".

They can backpedal, but just like when Trump back peddled after a nazi rammed his car into a crowd, the white nationalists saw what he said and openly admitted that the back pedal was just to cover his tracks, while embracing his "both sides" speech as an open invitation and admission he was on their side.
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yep
 
Eumi

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i-Lo said:
So a couple of queries:

  • Hypothetically, if child porn (the worst) was not part of 8chan, would the discussions and its proliferation been as large as it has been thus far? - Remember that that board openly engages in racism and all manners of bigotry (the AMA provided tons of examples).
  • Do Era admins and/or mods plan to blacklist YTubers who come to the defence of THQN by blaming the "SJWs"?
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There'd be a lot more downplaying if child porn wasn't a thing here, but child porn is so baked into what 8 chan is and its reputation that that scenario would be entirely different.

For one the site wouldn't be blacklisted by google.
 
Mister X

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TheLostBigBoss said:
Ok, time for real talk.

If anyone thinks this was just a "stupid mistake", then you're getting had.

This was 100% an attempt to signal boost to a specific audience in order to gain a loyal following that sees "a company who openly admits to rejecting SJW censorship".

They can backpedal, but just like when Trump back peddled after a nazi rammed his car into a crowd, the white nationalists saw what he said and openly admitted that the back pedal was just to cover his tracks, while embracing his "both sides" speech as an open invitation and admission he was on their side.
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Yup, one of the biggest dog whistles in gaming history.
 
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