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Toxi

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
17,550
I'm all for him getting fired, dude failed the first step in his job, so absolutely get rid.

I do however not like the mob FIRE HIM mentality that they jump to say.
Let the guy know he fucked up in a more constructive way that's all.
How about you try using your employer's public media account to have a chat with pedophiles and nazis. Tell us how it goes.
 

Kadzork

Has got mad skills!!
Member
Oct 27, 2017
16,788
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Oct 27, 2017
3,780
This is a very calculated move. They know it will piss a lot of people off, but that is ok because they are going for the very lucrative market of people without jobs who pirate everything.
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,293
Occam's razor: it's probably Reinhard. Why would someone be impersonating him in this situation? He can claim he knew nothing all he wants. I say fuck that.
 

ArjanN

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,113
I don't know if this is something THQNordic can even come back from in their current state.

Presumably, one dude who did the legwork of this "stunt" is going to be the sacrificial lamb and be quietly dismissed is what the current gameplan is; it's probably better however to virtually purge the entire PR / marketing department and start from scratch, to ensure not even a hint of bullshit like this ever happens again within the company if it survives this fiasco. Then there's the part of me that thinks they should do all of that and also just re-brand outright, since their image is now stained with things ethically and morally lower than dinosaur shit.

Eh, I think they could wash themselves of this shit but some heads would definitely have to roll very publicly.
 

Muffin

Member
Oct 26, 2017
10,342
It's hard to tell. I am not exactly clear how 8chan modding/special privileges work. It does appear the ##reporter bit is supposed to signify a special account, the people flagged as participating in the AMA, but is that something handled on the users end, so maybe they forgot to flag it? Is that all admin-driven? Either way, the ability for the site to so quickly attribute awful things to your name is one of a billion reasons why this was an awful idea.
I see, thanks for the answer. And good work as always!
 

Crossing Eden

Member
Oct 26, 2017
53,334
They really hate ResetEra huh
Imagine having such a fucked up moral compass and let's be honest, being so maladjusted as a direct result of no identity aside from playing video games and watching anime that the idea that Era is collectively bothered by anything let alone a company associating with a google-blacklisted website that had to change hosts multiple times as a direct result of suspected child pornography is more an affront to your sensibilities than A)the existence of the website in the first place and B)a prominent publisher signal boosting said website
 

Velezcora

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Nov 16, 2017
3,124
THQ do the right thing and fire everyone involved in this, get a new PR team and make a sizable donation to child protection charities and anti-racism charities. I think that's the only way to truly make amends for this.
But they won't do it. They'll just stick to their shitty twitter apology like CD Projekt.
 

Andrew-Ryan

Banned
Dec 4, 2018
645
What? No. 8chan existed way before Gamergate was a thing.

But yes, clearly many people at THQ Nordic are highly supportive of GG nazis. I'm done with any games even remotely related to them. Then again, not exactly a major inconvenience for me.

OK technically it was created ~10months before gamegate (hardly "way before") but it's significant userbase came about after the 4ch "exodus". 8ch would be a dead board if not for gamergate.

I'm pretty sure 8 was around as a forum for child exploitation for like a decade before GG.

Well you'd be wrong. 8ch was created in October of 2013, gamergate was August 2014.

Inaccurate. 8chan was basically the home of banned 4chan child pedos. They were tiny but blew up in size thanks to gamergate and 4chan not tolerating all of their fuckery because gamergaters who preferred the 4chan format needed a home and basically was ok teaming up with a pedo ring.

8ch was created because of the strangle hold 4ch had on boards. 8ch was different to 4ch in that anyone could create a board, that's what attracted people to it. It was really lax moderation wise in general and given the userbase of chans in general then some of that stuff did slip through but 8ch always had a global rule against it. 8ch was tiny before gamergate, that's a fact. It's main userbase is there because of it and it'd have died at the wayside like other alternate chans if not for gamergaye.
 

neonneongod

Member
Feb 21, 2019
294
8ch was created as an offshoot after 4ch started banning discussion about "gamergate". Kinda makes sense that THQ would hold an AMA there after they bought Warhorse Studios, a developer that created a game with the explicit aim of being "anti-gamergate".

no, 8chan existed well before that. gamergate moving there just gave it a bump in userbase.
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,293

Different emotions being:

"Hmm my nazi friends seem to enjoy me chilling with them in public on here, but HOLY SHIT REGULAR HUMAN BEINGS ARE SUDDENLY SCREAMING AT ME WHAT IS GOING ON????????????? ~howcouldthishappen~"

Eh, I think they could wash themselves of this shit but some heads would definitely have to roll very publicly.

In a vacuum? Sure. In the world we live in where they have purchased openly pro-Gamergate studios? Nah, fam.
 

TheMrPliskin

Member
Oct 26, 2017
3,564
I feel like every time I look away the fire grows. Not that I'm complaining of course, this shouldn't just blow over.
 

Deleted member 13015

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,266
Well, I've Googled THQ Nordic and I get the phrase "Child Porn" right next to their name.

Let's see where this goes for them.
 

metalslimer

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
9,565
So basically he is claiming a mental breakdown
..?

Guy needs to be fired immediately before the day is over if they want to salvage this
 

Nerun

Member
Oct 30, 2017
2,273
Ok, so how am I supposed to believe this went down at THQ Nordic?

PR Guy 1: Hey, let's do an AMA on 8Chan!
PR Guy 2: AMA, sounds great, but wait, what's 8Chan?
PR Guy 1: Isn't that a message board like Reddit?
PR Guy 3: Nah, you mean 4Chan!
PR Guy 1: Ah, whatever something like that, guy contacted me somehow or somehow this page magically opened on my PC, no clue, you don't need every detail, right?
PR Guy 2: Yeah, no one cares, it's the Internet, something like 4Chan, sounds great for me, boss?
Head of PR: What? AMA on 8Chan? No clue what it is and I don't research stuff, you guys know what your doing, right? Sure, go ahead, announce it on our official Twitter channel, I'll answer stuff as well! Great idea, guys!
PR intern: Äh guys, did you check the board or Google before? Does anyone actually know what 8Chan is?
Head of PR: Ah, who cares, something like 4Chan, we'll just add something on Twitter like "no clue why we are doing it, but here's the link to the AMA"
PR Team: Well, that sounds like a great plan!

Not to mention the likes and initial details in their Tweet and responses in the AMA from the PR Director.
 

Foffy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,384


I'm howling here.

Overwhelmed? You didn't get pushed into the pit, queen. You happily walked into it.

And the fact he felt the need to state he isn't a white supremacist or into child porn says so fucking much. You're not what festers on the site you chose to do?

I wonder what Mark thinks about the site.
 

Haze

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,784
Detroit, MI
At the very least he should be fired for gross incompetence, this isn't about an internet mob this is about someone who was hired for a specific thing not being able to do that specific thing.
Someone who operates at a high position in his profession made a mistake that fucking people in undergrad wouldn't commit.
 

Brinbe

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
58,298
Terana
However agreed to that fucked up baaaaaaaaaaaaad. Like reaaaaaaaally bad.

Be an ambitious money-rich publisher and hire 8channers to run your PR. What could go wrong????

Fire those ppl right now, THQNordic, and apologize/apologize/apologize.

Unbelievable
 

Goldenroad

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Nov 2, 2017
9,475
If THQ Nordic doesn't fire at least some people who were involved in making this happen it's entirely reasonable to stop purchasing THQ Nordic games. By not firing people the upper brass of the company is ok with this kind of sloppiness or even worse support the messaging.

The "upper brass" are the people responsible for this at the end of the day. The buck stops with them. If they are allowed to continue on in managerial and executive roles, there is no reason to believe this won't happen again. Everybody from PR on up needs to be terminated immediately, and anyone hired by these people, or by people hired by these people, need to be thoroughly evaluated before being allowed to continue on in any kind of leadership or decision making role.
 

Andrew-Ryan

Banned
Dec 4, 2018
645
no, 8chan existed well before that. gamergate moving there just gave it a bump in userbase.
I corrected my wording in this regards. But it's a lie to say it existed "well before". It was created in October of 2013, gained traction in the tail end of the year/new year and gamergate happened in August 2014, so it was only 8-10months after.
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,293
Eh, I think they could wash themselves of this shit but some heads would definitely have to roll very publicly.
OK technically it was created ~10months before gamegate (hardly "way before") but it's significant userbase came about after the 4ch "exodus". 8ch would be a dead board if not for gamergate.



Well you'd be wrong. 8ch was created in October of 2013, gamergate was August 2014.



8ch was created because of the strangle hold 4ch had on boards. 8ch was different to 4ch in that anyone could create a board, that's what attracted people to it. It was really lax moderation wise in general and given the userbase of chans in general then some of that stuff did slip through but 8ch always had a global rule against it. 8ch was tiny before gamergate, that's a fact. It's main userbase is there because of it and it'd have died at the wayside like other alternate chans if not for gamergaye.

It being tiny prior to GG I was aware of, but my mental timeline was apparently skewed. My apologies, thanks for the clarification!
 

ShutterMunster

Art Manager
Verified
Oct 27, 2017
2,459
He at least needs to be suspended without pay for like two week. This was so massively incompetent. He hasn't done irreversible damage to the brand—the Internet moves too quick for this stain to last much longer—but it is tremendously embarrassing for the company and all the hardworking devs there who knew better and probably urged him to can this when the idea was first presented.

What a bozo move.
 

Fliesen

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,254
Different emotions being:

"Hmm my nazi friends seem to enjoy me chilling with them in public on here, but HOLY SHIT REGULAR HUMAN BEINGS ARE SUDDENLY SCREAMING AT ME WHAT IS GOING ON????????????? ~howcouldthishappen~"



In a vacuum? Sure. In the world we live in where they have purchased openly pro-Gamergate studios? Nah, fam.

Why did it require "criticism" to pour in?!
How did LITERALLY BEING WELCOMED WITH THE WORDS "HEIL HITLER" not immediately make you cancel the whole thing?!
 

metalslimer

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
9,565
The "upper brass" are the people responsible for this at the end of the day. The buck stops with them. If they are allowed to continue on in managerial and executive roles, there is no reason to believe this won't happen again. Everybody from PR on up needs to be terminated immediately, and anyone hired by these people, or by people hired by these people, need to be thoroughly evaluated before being allowed to continue on in any kind of leadership or decision making role.

On one hand I want to agree. On the other hand there are very likely some very low level people probably in that department that were completely flabbergasted as well. Theres no way this was just one rogue person though and their obviously is a culture problem that needs to be addressed with a huge overhaul
 

Odesu

Member
Oct 26, 2017
5,543
I guess he's right, he's not a white supremacist... He's just a bigot in general.

Actually, this comes from Reinhard, not Philipp. Meaning, there were TWO GUYS at THQ Nordics Austrian PR Office who thought this was a good idea. And just in case anyone can't decipher the picture.

8Chan User posts pic with the caption: "Cease your Faggotry, I said cease."
Official THQ Nordic PR Account answers: "This could be from one of our games..."

WELCOME TO 2019 Y'ALL

EDIT: Reinhard is actually not a PR guy but part of THQ Nordic's Board and Management.
 
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Skittzo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
41,037
Ok, so how am I supposed to believe this went down at THQ Nordic?

PR Guy 1: Hey, let's do an AMA on 8Chan!
PR Guy 2: AMA, sounds great, but wait, what's 8Chan?
PR Guy 1: Isn't that a message board like Reddit?
PR Guy 3: Nah, you mean 4Chan!
PR Guy 1: Ah, whatever something like that, guy contacted me somehow or somehow this page magically opened on my PC, no clue, you don't need every detail, right?
PR Guy 2: Yeah, no one cares, it's the Internet, something like 4Chan, sounds great for me, boss?
Head of PR: What? AMA on 8Chan? No clue what it is and I don't research stuff, you guys know what your doing, right? Sure, go ahead, announce it on our official Twitter channel, I'll answer stuff as well! Great idea, guys!
PR intern: Äh guys, did you check the board or Google before? Does anyone actually know what 8Chan is?
Head of PR: Ah, who cares, something like 4Chan, we'll just add something on Twitter like "no clue why we are doing it, but here's the link to the AMA"
PR Team: Well, that sounds like a great plan!

Not to mention the likes and initial details in their Tweet and responses in the AMA from the PR Director.

You're missing-

Mark: Hey I'll take care of the nasty stuff
PR Team: What? What nasty stuff?
Mark: Don't worry about it.
PR Team: Sounds good, thanks Mark!
 

fanboi

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,702
Sweden
The "upper brass" are the people responsible for this at the end of the day. The buck stops with them. If they are allowed to continue on in managerial and executive roles, there is no reason to believe this won't happen again. Everybody from PR on up needs to be terminated immediately, and anyone hired by these people, or by people hired by these people, need to be thoroughly evaluated before being allowed to continue on in any kind of leadership or decision making role.

If this is personel in Sweden, which I don't think it is for now, it is actually very hard to just fire a person, like really hard unless you want union after you.
 

TheHyde

Member
Oct 29, 2017
430
THQ Nordic just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about 8chan culture (I'm clearly not an expert), but child porn and racism are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in 4chan where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you get screwed by Mark over at 8chan, you bring shame to your whole damn company and the only way to get rid of that shame is "honest" repentance.

What this means is the gaming public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to listen to your backpedaling, nor will they purchase any of THQ Nordic's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but THQ Nordic has alienated an entire market with this move.

THQ Nordic, publicly apologize and retroactively cancel the AMA at 8chan or you can kiss your business goodbye.
 

Foffy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,384
He at least needs to be suspended without pay for like two week. This was so massively incompetent. He hasn't done irreversible damage to the brand—the Internet moves too quick for this stain to last much longer—but it is tremendously embarrassing for the company and all the hardworking devs there who knew better and probably urged him to can this when the idea was first presented.

What a bozo move.

Googling THQ Nordic directly reference the words "child pornagraphy".

Even if this last three days this is hella damning. Like everyone who cleared this might be fired because of how damning that is.