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Mesoian

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I mean, yes.

As it should be until they actually do something rather than be tacitly accepting of their shitty behavior.
 

basic_text

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Oct 27, 2017
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Here's a question I want people to think about carefully from this image as well, "How do you know that those images and videos of you are floating around the internet?" There was an incident in 2014, where some online troll decided to email those videos to me, I became well aware that the stuff was floating around online. 8chan is known to host links to child porn. Add the two together, alongside what I wrote in this image.

Do you what I fear the most? Reliving those two months of hell. It's one thing I have to accept in my life that I was raped as a child, but finding out that recordings of that hell are floating around the internet is another ball game, and to be reminded of that is equally hell.

Hey, first of all, I'm really sorry to hear that you had to go through that.
I'd like to thank you for your honest post. Until now I was fairly indifferent about the 8chan incident (mainly because I was being selfish and was only thinking about how the situation would affect me, a lefty, white, questioning male who has never had to go through such an ordeal) but reading a first hand account of how it hurts survivors has hammered home the ignorance and lack of accountability THQ displays.

I hope everything is starting to look up for you and please know that you've reached at least 1 person with your efforts. I won't be buying a THQ product again.

x
 

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So this is every THQ thread on this website from now on huh

Yep!

Guilty by Association is a bitch though. I mean...many of us posted on NEOGAF for years and mods on that forum collected and distributed child porn. And I don't think we should be faulted for that association. THQN needs to fire those responsible, but them specifically.

Yeah I mean I like, say, Deep Silver's stuff and am frustrated that there are people who are still having to work under these assfucks, but, like, this forum separated from GAF specifically because of those revelations; it's hard to nail on association when the active steps to deal with the situation involved a big and public dissociation from the group
 

Gestault

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Oct 26, 2017
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Guilty by Association is a bitch though. I mean...many of us posted on NEOGAF for years and mods on that forum collected and distributed child porn. And I don't think we should be faulted for that association. THQN needs to fire those responsible, but them specifically.

The basis of people's criticism is that no action was taken after they did something, including interactions that showed the people involved were aware of what they were doing. The response effectively lied about that awareness of the issue before, during, and after the event. The community they did the co-promotion with was created in part specifically to facilitate things like distributing child pornography and organizing harassment campaigns. None of that is in question. This is reflected in Google's default blacklists; the entity is recognized as a "bad player."

This is criticism because of THQN's direct actions and the choice to deliberately avoid accountability. Your side comparison is so weak it's almost incomprehensible.
 

wtd2009

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Oct 27, 2017
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Hm. Interesting. The only thing this makes me hopeful for is a de blob 3 announcement, given the low profile of this game.
 

LostSkullKid

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Nov 27, 2017
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Were there ever any actual allegations against Dan Schneider? Legit asking.
This isn't really a direct allegation but this comes from an actress Zoey 101.
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There was also a Reddit post of someone who claimed to be an extra on the Amanda Show was allegedly paid to have her feet tickled or something by Dan. But I don't think there was ever any solid evidence if that person was really an extra on the Amanda Show.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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The basis of people's criticism is that no action was taken after they did something, including interactions that showed the people involved were aware of what they were doing. The response effectively lied about that awareness of the issue before, during, and after the event. The community they did the co-promotion with was created in part specifically to facilitate things like distributing child pornography and organizing harassment campaigns. None of that is in question. This is reflected in Google's default blacklists; the entity is recognized as a "bad player."

This is criticism because of THQN's direct actions and the choice to deliberately avoid accountability. Your side comparison is so weak it's almost incomprehensible.

I understand the basis of people's criticisms. Which is why I said those involved need to be fired. But I also u dersrand what others are saying in this forum about this idea of fuck everyone at THQ. Guilt by association is kind of rough. Especially since said employees may not be in a position to up and leave since it involves their livelihood.
 

Razorrin

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Nov 7, 2017
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the HELP Menu.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I LOVE BATTLE FOR BIKINI BOTTOM SO MUCH

BUT I WILL NOT SUPPORT SUCH AN AWFUL COMPANY

GET A COPY OF THE PS2 VERSION, THEY WON'T GET YOUR MONEY AND YOU'LL STILL PLAY THIS IMMACULATE SUCCESSOR TO MARIO 64

WHY DOES THE WORLD TORMENT ME SO
 

NinjaScooter

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I understand the basis of people's criticisms. Which is why I said those involved need to be fired. But I also u dersrand what others are saying in this forum about this idea of fuck everyone at THQ. Guilt by association is kind of rough. Especially since said employees may not be in a position to up and leave since it involves their livelihood.

The issue with claiming "guilt by association " is that THQ has the power to disassociate, and hasn't. When people say "fuck THQ" they aren't literally saying "fuck every single person that works for THQ I hope every bad thing happens to them", but with any kind of boycott there is inherently going to be people directly impacted who were not involved, or are not bad people.
 

UnNamed

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Oct 27, 2017
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Problem is that what they did is so utterly terrible that we can't sweep it under the rug or just leave it to be cordoned off in a thread where the people who actually need to see it will just ignore it.
Ad you can do that continuing to reply in the original thread.

What's the point to talk again and again of the same problem. Someone other than you will think this will give visibility to the controversy, but at the same time they are the same who are waiting someone else to solve it for them. For me this is laziness. Talking of problems has never solved any of them.

Talk about the solution, instead. Because in 4 thread specifically created for THQ AMA plus all the thread of game they produce/distribute, except for the insult, i have seen barely no idea. No one have said it has to be something big.
 

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Guilty by Association is a bitch though. I mean...many of us posted on NEOGAF for years and mods on that forum collected and distributed child porn. And I don't think we should be faulted for that association. THQN needs to fire those responsible, but them specifically.

*downs some alcohol quickly*

*clears throat before speaking meekly*

Can uh... can we get it on the record that it was one former mod that was shitcanned in like 2011 or 2012 long before the accusations had come to light? Like... I know this probably isn't worth re-litigating publicly again and I don't ask that the mods of NeoGAF 2017 be regarded as heroes or anything, but I would be remiss if I didn't note that it's really fucking depressing to think that our legacy is "that place where mods distributed child porn." Jesus...
 

Captain of Outer Space

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Oct 28, 2017
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An ironic announcement for a company that happily did an AMA on 8chan and never really punished any of the parties involved in it. They just did a weak apology with no meaning to it and hoped people would forget. Fuck both THQ Nordics.
 

NinjaScooter

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Oct 25, 2017
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Ad you can do that replying in that thread.

What's the point to talk again and again of the same problem. Someone other than you will think this will give visibility to the controversy, but at the same time they are the same who are waiting someone else to solve it for them. For me this is laziness. Talking of problems has never solved any of them.

Talk about the solution, instead. Because in 4 thread specifically created for THQ AMA plus all the thread of game they produce/distribute, except for the insult, i have seen barely no idea. No one have said it has to be something big.

Nobody here has the ability to force THQ to resolve this issue. That doesn't mean people should have to stop talking about it. There are any number of issues on this forum that lead to regurgitate, circular arguments this plenty of people don't have a problem with. Let's stop talking about the Epic game store exclusivity issues since none of us can change it. Let's stop talking about crossplay since none of us can change it. Let's stop talking about consumer rights issues around digital media since none of us can change it? Why is the line for so many drawn here? Some of you will blow a gasket over a fucking game going exclusive to a platform you don't use, leading to endless discussion, but god forbid people want to hold a video game company accountable for giving a platform to a bunch of bigots and pedophiles. Gamer priorities can be so goddamn fucked up sometimes.
 
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Ad you can do that replying in that thread.

What's the point to talk again and again of the same problem. Someone other than you will think this will give visibility to the controversy, but at the same time they are the same who are waiting someone else to solve it for them. For me this is laziness. Talking of problems has never solved any of them.

Talk about the solution, instead. Because in 4 thread specifically created for THQ AMA plus all the thread of game they produce/distribute, except for the insult, i have seen barely no idea. No one have said it has to be something big.
I respect people's decision to refrain from supporting games distributed to THQ and people's decision to continue to support THQ. It doesn't make you a good person to stop or a bad person to continue. It makes you a consumer. I'll continue to support games distributed by THQ despite their insanely stupid decision. I have a different opinion than the "fuck THQ" crowd but I won't dismiss the concerns of them. Let them express their views and perhaps ignore the accounts if they bother you. That is not an endorsement of evil, it's just a decision to maintain comfort on this website. People will be hostile on both sides of the argument but that's natural.
 

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i'm always taken aback whenever a poster screeches about how not buying a video game for any reason "harms the developers"

i'm not in any way required to buy a product. get out of here with that weak shit.
 

Hawkijustin

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Oct 27, 2017
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*downs some alcohol quickly*

*clears throat before speaking meekly*

Can uh... can we get it on the record that it was one former mod that was shitcanned in like 2011 or 2012 long before the accusations had come to light? Like... I know this probably isn't worth re-litigating publicly again and I don't ask that the mods of NeoGAF 2017 be regarded as heroes or anything, but I would be remiss if I didn't note that it's really fucking depressing to think that our legacy is "that place where mods distributed child porn." Jesus...
Or how the entire community was on it's hands and knees ready to suck bish's dick at any moment all while he was a huge unhinged racist piece of shit. I was telling people a year before he got caught that his posts and bans were suspect. Even before the end gaf wasn't well looked at outside of its own bubble.
 

Mesoian

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Oct 28, 2017
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What's the point to talk again and again of the same problem. Someone other than you will think this will give visibility to the controversy, but at the same time they are the same who are waiting someone else to solve it for them. For me this is laziness. Talking of problems has never solved any of them.

Look, I know you want to play the video game, but that doesn't mean we should be completely tacit in their actions so we can play it guilt free. "I mean, yes, they basically endorsed a website that's responsible for a variety of atrocities, including child porn...but guys...I REALLY want to play the spongebob remake".

If you really want to pay you games guilt free, you should be just as vocal in seeing that the jokers responsible are held accountable. Because no, until then, this discourse surrounding THQn will ALWAYS have this tone surrounding it.

In a lot of ways, the fact that you're so annoyed by this constant cloud of negativity surrounding the company and it's products is an indication that talking about the situation is working.
 

Palette Swap

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Oct 25, 2017
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Off the top of my head? Everyone complaining about Xbox One DRM before it launched.
You're creating an artificial dichotomy between problems and solutions to essentially tell people to shut up, when that's precisely the most efficient way for nothing to happen.

If THQ really needs pointers on how to unfuck a situation where they decided to self promote on a Nazi pedophile shithole, I don't know that they should be running a business. Firing people and being unequivocal is self evident.
 

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Hey guys what's u-

Or how the entire community was on it's hands and knees ready to suck bish's dick at any moment all while he was a huge unhinged racist piece of shit. I was telling people a year before he got caught that his posts and bans were suspect. Even before the end it wasn't well looked at outside of its own bubble.

Wait what

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Fireblend

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https://mashable.com/article/deplatforming-alex-jones-2018/

Over the past year, internet companies wielded the hammer known as "deplatforming" more than ever. Deplatforming, or no-platforming, is the term for kicking someone off social media or other sites when they break the rules by, say, using hate speech, or participating in harassment campaigns. Getting deplatformed means that the rule-breaker can no longer use that platform to share their thoughts or feelings with the world.

Most of the bans on people like conspiracy theorist Alex Jones came after widespread public calls for their removal
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Razorrin

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I LOVE BATTLE FOR BIKINI BOTTOM SO MUCH

BUT I WILL NOT SUPPORT SUCH AN AWFUL COMPANY

GET A COPY OF THE PS2 VERSION, THEY WON'T GET YOUR MONEY AND YOU'LL STILL PLAY THIS IMMACULATE SUCCESSOR TO MARIO 64

WHY DOES THE WORLD TORMENT ME SO

It's my heart breaking in half, that's what it is.

Seriously, don't buy this, people. It's not worth any measure of quality to actively support people courting 8Chan, a website that has incubated countless mass shooters with impunity and host to about as much dangerous content as you can think of.
 

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Or how the entire community was on it's hands and knees ready to suck bish's dick at any moment all while he was a huge unhinged racist piece of shit. I was telling people a year before he got caught that his posts and bans were suspect. Even before the end it wasn't well looked at outside of its own bubble.

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think I'm going to bow out of reading any THQN thread here. They just devolve to shit instantly and trying to sift through the waves of "fuck THQN" to get actual information about the topic of the thread is just not worth the effort. Not criticizing anyone or anything like that it just is not worth it to me for games that I probably won't have interest in.
 

SturokBGD

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think I'm going to bow out of reading any THQN thread here. They just devolve to shit instantly and trying to sift through the waves of "fuck THQN" to get actual information about the topic of the thread is just not worth the effort. Not criticizing anyone or anything like that it just is not worth it to me for games that I probably won't have interest in.
Good to know, thanks.
 
Aug 29, 2018
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Loved this as a kid. Still not happy with THQ though, the hole controversy involving them shouldve been impossible if the higher management that my money is realistically mostly supporting did their jobs
 

Zutrax

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Oct 31, 2017
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It's my heart breaking in half, that's what it is.

Seriously, don't buy this, people. It's not worth any measure of quality to actively support people courting 8Chan, a website that has incubated countless mass shooters with impunity and host to about as much dangerous content as you can think of.
Any reason you couldn't buy a used copy of this version off ebay or something? You seem pretty upset that you can't play it, so why not still play it in a way that doesn't give them your money?
 
Aug 29, 2018
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Why is Nickelodeon working with a alt-right company that jumped in bed with the pedo?

Why the fuck did THQ get away this nonsense?



They held a AMA on an alt-right forum who are really into child porn.
I'm still shocked this actually happened

The child porn reputation is completely impossible to miss if you field the website at all which they mustve done