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Oct 27, 2017
16,552
User Banned (5 Days): Modwhining and attacks against staff
This is what the mod policy creates.

It just encourages the "keep politics out of my games/it's not the devs fault/outrage culture" people to chime in and downplay, what I have to remind you, was a video game publisher associating with a website that harbors child pornography. And NOBODY saw any consequences from this.

This is fucked up. What the fuck does anyone at the site stand for if not at the very least this?
They're scared to make a decision and it's pathetic. This is black and white, THQ went too far.
If people are just going to ignore the THQN mess then they can discuss their games on a different forum. They can head on over to /r/Games. I don't know why they would WANT to be on this forum if they are the kind of person that will ignore it.
Exactly, we've got product for the many here who want to "keep politics out of video games", it's called neogaf.
 

Gestault

Member
Oct 26, 2017
13,356
The "coincidence" of the user pointing out how a site isn't really blacklisted from Google results if they extend the search terms being the same to attack someone for sharing pertinent abuse experiences is as disappointing as it is predictable.

I've still yet to come across a person who defends 8chan who breaks the mold of the kind of person who would defend 8chan.
 

Horo

Banned
Nov 17, 2017
590
And if that happened, I'm sure some knucklehead will be here telling you that you're overreacting because of whatever reason. Point is, no one really gets to decide what someone's tolerance for this kind of stuff is. You being fine with it now versus later doesn't mean much.

It does for me. And if you don't agree with my opinion, well feel free. i'm not gonna start a debate over the matter since, lets be honest here, they're kinda pointless when everyone's mind's are set already.
 

Ultimadrago

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,136
I heard Battle for Bikini Bottom was actually good for quite some time now.
Is it like actually pretty good? Or like "My younger me liked it for what it was" good?

May consider it for Steam.
 

Jebusman

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,081
Halifax, NS
Now, pull a stunt like this again though, and then you won't have to worry. I will definitely join your 'fuck THQ' choir because then they've clearly not understood what the problem was.

I don't believe you. I legitimately don't.

Your entire post history making light of the incident and then subsequently downplaying it every chance you get tells me that when this comes around the next time, you're going to go fishing for yet another excuse as to why they don't deserve to be punished.

I mean you seem to think the gaming media didn't write articles about this because they didn't want to "signal boost" 8chan. That has never stopped the media from writing about anything.

It's more likely that they understand just how much of their audience is made up of people who are willing to, at best ignore, at worse defend, what 8chan is and can't afford to risk their income.

The few sites that did actually discuss it are either outside of the gaming sphere enough and saw no risk, or (believe) their their audience isn't at risk of writing that sort of a piece.
 
Nov 4, 2018
486
I heard Battle for Bikini Bottom was actually good for quite some time now.
Is it like actually pretty good? Or like "My younger me liked it for what it was" good?

May consider it for Steam.
It's a solid B-lister platformer. It's not a Mario Odyssey GOTY 10/10 Must-Buy, but if you enjoy Spongebob and are a fan of platformers you'll probably have a good time.

Also I hope if this does well then they'll try to remaster the movie game. That game had no right being as good as it was and I enjoyed the shit out of it.
 

CreeperBlocks

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,081
Canada
I got a good feeling we're gonna get a Remake or Remaster for Simpsons Hit and Run now. I think Battle for Bikini Bottom might be my most rented but never bought PS2 game. I'll also say that for some reason, spongebob looked less yellow in this game for reasons I'm not sure
 

DevilPuncher

Aggressively Mediocre
Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,685
This is what the mod policy creates.

It just encourages the "keep politics out of my games/it's not the devs fault/outrage culture" people to chime in and downplay, what I have to remind you, was a video game publisher associating with a website that harbors child pornography. And NOBODY saw any consequences from this.

This is fucked up. What the fuck does anyone at the site stand for if not at the very least this?
Yeah.

I don't understand why Colin Moriarty's content is banned but everything relating to THQ Nordic isn't. It only seems sensible to ban them from discussion as well.
 

Wanderer5

Prophet of Truth
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
10,982
Somewhere.
Pretty interesting choice, but good for Spongbob fans!

Also, man would it be awesome if they tackle a Scooby game too (like Night of 100 Frights especially).
 

NiallGGlynn

Member
Apr 16, 2019
509
It's the most 2019 thing ever that a fucking Spongebob game remaster is tied up in a paedophilia controversy. THQ really need to sort this out, what a gross situation.
 

Chrome Hyena

Member
Oct 30, 2017
8,768
Yeah.

I don't understand why Colin Moriarty's content is banned but everything relating to THQ Nordic isn't. It only seems sensible to ban them from discussion as well.
Because if you ban THQ then you have to ban SE for their blatantly homophobic/ holocaust denying employees, then you gotta ban CD prokeckt Red and Atlus for their blatant transphobic shit, and do you extend it to Rockstar for their basically slave labor practices, or how about naughty dog for the reported sexual harassment there.

Best to not ban companies but allow discussion of their bad behavior, or you end up not talking about any major release again.
 

Ultimadrago

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,136
It's a solid B-lister platformer. It's not a Mario Odyssey GOTY 10/10 Must-Buy, but if you enjoy Spongebob and are a fan of platformers you'll probably have a good time.

Also I hope if this does well then they'll try to remaster the movie game. That game had no right being as good as it was and I enjoyed the shit out of it.

Thanks. Guess I'll keep an eye out.
 

DevilPuncher

Aggressively Mediocre
Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,685
Because if you ban THQ then you have to ban SE for their blatantly homophobic/ holocaust denying employees, then you gotta ban CD prokeckt Red and Atlus for their blatant transphobic shit, and do you extend it to Rockstar for their basically slave labor practices, or how about naughty dog for the reported sexual harassment there.

Best to not ban companies but allow discussion of their bad behavior, or you end up not talking about any major release again.
Wait, what's the deal with SE (Square?)?
 

Horo

Banned
Nov 17, 2017
590
I don't believe you. I legitimately don't.

Your entire post history making light of the incident and then subsequently downplaying it every chance you get tells me that when this comes around the next time, you're going to go fishing for yet another excuse as to why they don't deserve to be punished.

I mean you seem to think the gaming media didn't write articles about this because they didn't want to "signal boost" 8chan. That has never stopped the media from writing about anything.

It's more likely that they understand just how much of their audience is made up of people who are willing to, at best ignore, at worse defend, what 8chan is and can't afford to risk their income.

The few sites that did actually discuss it are either outside of the gaming sphere and saw no risk, or (believe) their their audience isn't at risk of writing that sort of a piece.

I had a really bad day and weren't really thinking when i posted all that stuff, so sorry if you or anybody else felt offended. I already got a serious warning from the mods over it.

But yes, i make no secret that i have a soft spot for THQN.
 

Gestault

Member
Oct 26, 2017
13,356
They provided no response, except for an apology.

What??

I assume they meant THQN basically took no action. This would be based on the 8Chan promo link staying up on their social media so long after the event (and only after that was criticized by business partners), running the event as planned after full awareness of what they were doing, and that there was no follow-up recourse for the people responsible at every level.

The theoretical apology was odd, because they were warned before, during, and after in detailed terms what they were doing, and the people who planned and ran it were making jokes during the event showing they knew exactly what was going on. The "apology" made the case that they couldn't have known, which doesn't pass a smell test. That plus no accountability feels like it might as well have been no response.
 
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aisback

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,738
I understand why a good amount of you guys are boycotting THQ. The AMA thing was the stupidest thing I have seen in a while.

I have managed to find the apology which I have accepted but the guy who said yeah let's do it on 8chan should have been at least fired.

It might be worth contacting Lars (see the apology below) and see if it can make them take some action for it.

I am in no way defending THQ on this matter but I do feel like a lot of these threads do get derailed due to this.

This letter is to offer my sincerest apologies and regret for THQ Nordic GmbH Vienna's interaction with the controversial website 8chan last Tuesday, February 26. I condemn all unethical content this website stands for. Even if no one within the THQ Nordic Group would ever endorse such content, I realize simply appearing there gave an implicit impression that we did.

As Co-Founder and Group CEO of THQ Nordic AB, I take full responsibility for all of THQ Nordic GmbH's actions and communications. I have spent the past several days conducting an internal investigation into this matter. I assure you that every member of the organization has learned from this past week's events. I take this matter very seriously and we will take appropriate action to make sure we have the right policies and systems in place to avoid similar mistakes in the future.

As a Swedish based, fast growing group, we firmly support equality and diversity. We are also working actively to combat discrimination, harassment, and misconduct. We are already in the process of developing new work processes, based on the United Nations' SDGs (Sustainable Development Goals) and using the GRI (Global Reporting Initiative) standards, and we will accelerate this work going forward.

Lars Wingefors

Co-founder and Group-CEO, THQ Nordic AB


On the subject of this game , It looks like it could be fun but It also looks outdated (I had a quick look on YouTube)
 

Fireblend

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,454
Costa Rica
Yeah I'll purchase this video game from a company that still pays trash human beings that attempted to legitimize a site that is widely know to be frequented by pedophiles, nazis and supremacists, knows they did it, and did nothing about it.
 

Megatron

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,445
this isnt Destroy all humans

I don't think any of the Destroy all humans games have been good, so I wouldn't want a remaster, but the concept is rock solid and would love to see someone make a great DaH game. Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be THQ's MO at all. They seem to be all about budget experiences.
 

Jebusman

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,081
Halifax, NS
Yeah.

I don't understand why Colin Moriarty's content is banned but everything relating to THQ Nordic isn't. It only seems sensible to ban them from discussion as well.

Because they are too big to take a stance against. They consist of too many devs underneath that umbrella to stop discussion of all of it. You have SO many users who want to discuss their games and not be bothered with the political side of anything that killing discussion of something just invites toxicity from them. The mods want to take a neutral position to it (same as they did with the controversy that followed KC:D), which ultimately just serves the interests of people who want to dismiss what happened. It's placing the onus on both sides to work and interact with each other when one side is ignoring or dismissing morally objectionable actions and the other is trying to see that some level of consequence is seen for doing so, even as pathetically minor as a small video game forum taking a harder stance against it. Mods will step up and ban people who cross some sort of line (like already in this thread), but otherwise discussion and support for the company just goes unchallenged, and attacking anyone for it will just get you banned instead.

People will bring up "It's not the fault of the developer that the publisher made a mistake" or "they apologized and moved on, why won't you?" or "why should everyone be punished for the mistake of one person?" and the discussion stops there. The people who are upset that a company can associate with a CP safe harbor without repercussion get absolutely nothing out of it, and the people who don't want to think about it or acknowledge that get everything they want.

The OT for the game will become a safe haven where they can be sheltered from criticism, and everyone reluctantly moves on because nothing will be done.
 
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UnNamed

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
616
Yes, it is absolutely possible.

No thread has one point of discussion at all times. Folks discuss a variety of things. Both discussions can occur simultaneously in a thread.

No poster is obligated to respond to a particular discussion. The ignore feature is also helpful for anyone that wants to filter out particular discussion.

A thread is not a discussion between two people in real life. It's more like a dinner table with dozens of folks, all engaged in their own conversations.
Around a table, people can talk about different topics. But it's not that everyone talk about different arguments in just one discussion, this means caos. You'll see 3 people arguing about something, another 2 about another argument, etc. Table is like the forum, groups talking about a topic are the equivalent of a thread. It's like I talk with others about cars and out of nowhere you come up and say "I like spaghetti".
Thread in a forum can have multiple different request at the same time, most of them born and die after few reply, and also this happen in RL, but the entire thread can have only slightly changes to one point to another.

Another point is a guy can intervene in a discussion with a new argument who have some link with it. I made an example in another thread: I talk with some people about Darksiders. it's perfectly legit if another guy suggest the controversy about THQ. It's somehow related. So, we can decide to change the topic or prefer to continue to talk about Darksiders. What is not right is continue to interfere after that. This is not just impolite, this is against of how social relationship works. It's something people, parents, teachers teach you when you are a kid. It doesn't work like this.

The point of the discussion (THQ games) is not controversial per se. What is controversial is something related to it.
It's not like you have to intervene because we talk about how is good to beat our wives. It's the reason why, you'll know, it's gonna end badly.
Paradoxically, if this was true, we would end to talk about this issue, and this would be reduced to just one topic, not like half of the people talk about move their hands toward the cheeks and the others talk about the violence about women, in the same place.

Topic can change, you will have people with different opinion, but the topic of discussion is always just one.

People who want to discuss just about game don't say you can't talk about THQ AMA. They just say to use one of the FOUR previous thread.

I hope you understand, English is not my native language.
 

nanskee

Prophet of Truth
Member
Oct 31, 2017
5,069
This was such a good platformer type game. Now we need Simpsons hit and run

Edit: I've been out of the loop with THQ controversy
 

diakyu

Member
Dec 15, 2018
17,525
Always wanted to play this but I can't buy it with the developer behind it. 8chan is a toxic trash fire.
 

Jebusman

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,081
Halifax, NS
Were there ever any actual allegations against Dan Schneider? Legit asking.

It's always been rumored, when Deadline ran the news that he left Nickelodeon, it was all just "i've heard from staff about abuse complaints" and "my sources say" kind of stuff, but I don't think an actor has ever actually gone public with it, and none of those staff have (to my knowledge) ever gone on the record about it.

Some of those allegations were that he had a foot fetish (child or otherwise), something that's relatively difficult to "prove" without him outright admitting it.
 
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