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This scene in breaking bad.
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6 years after the show ended and two full views of the show I'm still #TeamWalt
He had a lot of pent up anger at the time, and had a serious case of the "fuck it"s. But as he later says, he realized he felt alive when he let's his psychopathy play.
The whole point of that scene was to show Walt's underlying character flaws, that would eventually become instrumental in his descent towards "Heisenberg." If all you took away from the scene was "blew up an entitled douchebag's car", then you missed a lot of nuance.
Particularly, Walt's ego and jealousy with people of success and the fact that Kenny represents the level of success that a male figure is expected to be at. So when Walt is destroying Kenny's car, the audience interprets it as karmic justice for his "assholery", but in Walt's mind, he's doing this as a revenge wish fulfillment against the people that he felt screwed him over from Gray Matter.
Particularly, Walt's ego and jealousy with people of success and the fact that Kenny represents the level of success that a male figure is expected to be at. So when Walt is destroying Kenny's car, the audience interprets it as karmic justice for his "assholery", but in Walt's mind, he's doing this as a revenge wish fulfillment against the people that he felt screwed him over from Gray Matter.
Walter being an asshole is why I wasn't a big fan of the final season, which had to introduce truly awful people just so he came off as less trashy, and in the process, gave him too good of a death.
That doesn't negate the path of destruction left behind by Walt. His family has been destroyed thinking that he murdered Hank, and Flynn thinking that his parents are absolute crap. And surely El Camino will show how Jesse's life was ruined by Walt.
People tend to ignore Jesse's role in his own shitty life. Wait did him incredibly dirty but Jesse had his own hand in the destruction of everybody he loved.
Sure, but to me it played into the whole idea of "Walt being a hero" that many bizzarely cling to. Like, they had to introduce neo nazis to make Walt appear remotely relatable in the final season.
People think Tony Montana was some sort of hero too. People are dumb.
I am thinking that you do not have a great grasp on Walt's character.
That's usually the issue with creating morally evil protagonists. AUdiences tend to forgo a sense of morality in favour of the protagonist.
He was always like this though. Did you forget the part when Walt beat on a high school kid for making fun of his son?
Damn it took years for people to come around on the internet. Walter White has always been a horrible entitled piece of crap! Love the show, love the acting, love the writing... but the Walter White fanboyism and the hating on the wife used to blow my mind. Heisenberg was an internet white guy's wet dream power fantasy fulfilled !
I don't think Walt was always that way, especially when you look at the flash backs when he was working at Gray Matter. I do think it was there, like it is in everyone, and was kind of unlocked once he received his diagnosis and finally started seeing life for what it really was. He suddenly had nothing to loose and when you have that kind of power it can corrupt.
He's both the sensible, introvert father who teaches and also the psychotic, power hungry meth dealer lord.
Humans can control his worst impulses, his worst side, he stops doing that. And at the end of the show only the psychotic self is really there anymore.
I don't see the show as "someone good becoming bad" and more as a human letting his worse version take the reigns of his life.
He killed 2 people in the first two episodes of the show. He came up with an elaborate plan to get rid of the body.
Blowing up a car isn't a big deal.
He's a sociopath.
Blowing up a car isn't a big deal.
He's a sociopath.
I was #TeamWalt right up until he double-crossed Mike. That was a bridge too far, and I was now fully on-board with seeing his demise.
They did stuff like that all the time, then have Saul call his guy and clean it up before anyone sees it. Not that it upset me, I get we need to suspend our disbelief for stuff like this.
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Care to explain why u think this, acusing Somone of somthing and not explaining why is a big no no on this forum, its in the forum rules of conduct.
Agreed. I can get behind this statement, and then in later seasons we introduce the Mexican cartel and pipe bombs tied to wheel chairs and planes crashing and falling out of the sky and just general over the top action and the series takes a nose dive for me. The best moments of breaking bad are the small time petty shit not the industrial world entrepreneurial endeavors he falls into.
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Yup.
Not that the rest of it was bad. As you pointed out, it's just most of its great scenes are those grounded personal ones, which what season 1 was basically about.
this is like watching season 1 and 2 of Narcos and being #TeamPabloEscobar. dude was a terrorist.
Well, you solved your own thread. Walt is not a good person and becomes worst by the minute. That was the beginning.
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I think a better discussion would be has Walt always been a terrible person? If not, when did he lose it? The cancer diagnosis? Killing Krazy-8?
Brian Cranston has said Walt first broke bad in the very first episode. Either he means the first guy he killed in the camper with the red phosphorus, or the fact that Walt decided the best way out of his financial situation was cooking meth.
In every single season except for 5A, they gave you worse villains than Walt, forcing you to root for him. Which is why so many people are conflicted as they're supposed to be. It's not bizarre. The show made you root for Walt a lot, and also made you hate him a lot.
