I really don't and I quickly realize now that my post is viewed as some sort of downplaying the OP's issue, for which I apologize.
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This fetishized in-game ad from Cyberpunk 2077 raises some questions about how the game may depict LGBT (NSFW) [See Staff Post Before Posting]
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Thanks bud, I'm glad we have someone like you on our side who is a woke ally.
You have to seriously look inside and question how much of an ally you are when you're freaking out over a member of the LGBTQ+ commnunity expressing something as vanilla as "I'm tired of straight white men" when they're irritated or frustrated, especially in a topic like this with the replies there have been. That that minor thing was enough to warrant acting appalled and redirecting the discourse toward yourself and your issue.
Let me just ask this. Is it factually incorrect that the oppression of the LGBT community is predominately led by straight white males?
Oh my god what a stupid-ass post. It takes minimum effort to understand OP's point. You don't have to agree, just don't be a dumbass about it. JFC. Also, just read the thread. It's been explained.
Or maybe, just maybe, you're too blind to see it? Or refuse to see it?
Agreed but I'm already fearing the worst, tbh.
Really good points but just in regards to that last paragraph, I would far and away prefer the ad to be a surface level statement that's been said a million times than a throwaway piece of art for a nasty joke. They're clearly going down the 'corporations are bad route' so having an insidious ad as another facet of their power would still be preferable to the there being no reason at all.
I do think it's in there because they want the setting to appear extreme and edgy with little thought, though.
I think it would be reasonable to give the benefit of the doubt to a company with a track record of being socially conscious, but CDPR is not that company. They haven't even demonstrated an understanding cyberpunk beyond its aesthetic, and given all of their other sketchy behavior there is no reason to take this at anything other than face value.
Every time.
Please read the thread, this has been answered many times.
Well when juxtaposed with the ad above it, it's like a 2077 viagra ad or something.
"All night, Every night" definitely seems sexual, nevermind the, well, breasts. Looks like V3.0 or something below.
So they're probably sex products being sold to, well, enhance your sex life/sex organs 🤷♂️
With some Grand Theft Auto like satire/parody/sass attached. Given that the whole theme of Cyberpunk is being crass/witty/sexualised or "punk".
Because Fetishization and Objectification are dehumanizing. A more detailed explanation is in this thread all over.
It fetishizes them and also the name of the product is a portmenteau of chromasome and a mythological monster that is a hodge-podge of other creatures.
I've no problem with yer fight or calling shit out, but isn't there a more on point way than just shitting on the dudes post count?
I'm confused, its cyberpunk... Everything is going to be fetishized and extreme, that is literally the subject matter. Having them scale back to something tasteful and well represented would fly in the face of the theme. Hell this in-world advertisement makes perfect sense in the world they are clearly making. It should be dehumanizing and fetish oriented as that is literally part of the problems that make this game world what it is.
I believe these kinds of ads in the game aren't supposed to be representative of the "good guys" of the world. It's supposed to be tasteless and exploitative. Like nazi flags in wolfenstein, doesn't really mean that the devs are nazis, right.
really? now thats a yikes.
We usually(always) focus on what it is in their posts.
The post count just gives it away.
Sorry for the short bullet point format, but it gets a bit tiresome to constantly explain in depth.
1. Fetishization has some serious reprecussions on trans people due to the dehumanizing nature of a lot of it
2. While it's possible for the game to handle this well, it's incredibly difficult to ignore the past actions of CDPR.
SWM's are the most persecuted group of people in the history of people.
Well when juxtaposed with the ad above it, it's like a 2077 viagra ad or something.
"All night, Every night" definitely seems sexual, nevermind the, well, breasts. Looks like V3.0 or something below.
So they're probably sex products being sold to, well, enhance your sex life/sex organs 🤷♂️
With some Grand Theft Auto like satire/parody/sass attached. Given that the whole theme of Cyberpunk is being crass/witty/sexualised or "punk".
For those not familiar with Cyberpunk 2020, this is what the ad on the top is referencing:
Cyberpunk Implants
Mr. Studd™/Midnight Lady™ Sexual Implants: The Mr. Studd™ slogan "All night, every night and she'll never know."captures the adult intentions of these implants; use your imagination to what they are capable of. Wearer add +1 to Seduction checks.
I would like to consider myself allied with the LGBTQ community.
I have since apologised regarding the way I posted so thoughtlessly earlier and certainly didn't mean to make this about "straight white males" but I think it's probably too late for that now.
How are posts like these fine? What the hell is happening.
Treat others like you want to be treated, jesus christ.
1. There is probably some conversation to have about the issues WITHIN the Cyberpunk genre, and not just hand wave them because "this is how Cyberpunk is"
2. This did not happen in a vacuum, this is from a company who has made transphobic, dismissive statements with the apology of "sorry if you were offended".
Actually it is well known that machine games are both nazis and want to kill nazis. They're the anti anti fa anti fa.
A situation where a specific group is being singled out like this and people are discussing that is not the time to redirect the conversation to what group you really think we should be talking about. It's not about uneven rules, it's about the context of the actual events and not distracting from what's going on.
This is exactly like the tactic (and it is a tactic) of deflection when people are protesting extrajudicial police killings of black people under the "black lives matter" slogan, and someone retorts with "well don't ALL lives matter?"
I see where you're coming from. Personally I think this kind of talk hurts more than it helps.
Replace trans people with marginalized groups and you just described all of human history.
Well we all know the "PR" in CDPR sure as hell isn't Public Relations. Good God. They just don't get it.
So they are sexual ads caped in the "humour/acceptance" of the Cyberpunk world? I mean, as a point of contention that is at least relevant to discussing them.
I would say yes to this, it's an opinion that you can certainly have though. The African-American community has a historically negative view towards homosexuality as well as the more conservative Muslim community. It's a problem that reaches far greater than white guys imo
It's been a repeated issue in these threads, you don't think its telling that these dudes come out and only comment on social or political issues with games? I don't know but I think there's a pattern, and most of the time they get banned. This thread has the tea and is a graveyard because of these guys. So I see no problem calling it out. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This has been discussed/explained repeatedly on most pages of the thread.
Guys, read the thread before posting, y'all just making noise and saying stuff that has already been discussed.
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So wait, you're saying that a it is "white privilege" because a "gay black woman" can get discriminated for more things than the other?? Because of things that are her choice based on what that person likes and feels??
Like the poster that you quote said, you can be a white straight man and have a hard life. Or a trans. Or homosexual.
I think that's the very toxic thinking that a lot of people have regarding these matters. "whatever could happen to you, it will always be harder for us". We should all push for equality, but first people (gay and straight) have to understand we ARE equal. It's just we make different choices.
Edit: This thread only turned to attacks between both sides, when the discussion can be taken in a different manner.
The poster above just linked me to how the top ad is for Mr Studd or Midnight Lady sexual implants?
Quite clearly there is a sexual nature to this world that is in no way as repressed or rigid as what most of us might be used to in our world. As a discussion point, how is that not improving society if the world isn't as repressed or non-accepting of sexual fluidity and body implants/changes?
You have got to be joking...
We are NOT TREATED equal, that's the fucking point.
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I would have no idea, but I would wager a guess that it'd be yes.
I still don't think that makes it right to generalise though.
That'd be akin to the shit I hear in England all the time about how "all Muslims are terrorists" and other nonsensical bs.
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