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Vertpin

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Remember the Samsung Galaxy Fold? Well, after several months of delays, the phone has been quietly releasing in certain markets in extremely small quantities. The batch of phones sold is rumored to be less than 4,000 units, and that there were absolutely no preorders made online as customers had to walk in and buy them.

Now that the phone is out, several tech you tubers are making new updated videos in the device. This durability test was uploaded yesterday, and is spreading like wildfire on the android/Samsung/google subreddits. Certainly give it a watch, because...y i k e s.

The display gets indentions from tiny finger nails, and don't you dare put your phone in your pocket with lint or near any debris. It appears product can still get in the display and break it.

Considering how little of these phones are being sold, as well as what appears to be no solid plans to sell the phone in carrier stores in the United States, and the results of this test, I don't expect Samsung to manufacture or continue to develop this specific foldable phone. I have a feeling that only a few ten thousand devices will be made, sold, shipped, and the device will be quietly canned and development of a gen 2 device will start, addressing the design failure of this phone.
 

PlanetSmasher

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm so confused. Was there ever really a market need for a foldable phone in the first place? Why is Samsung trying so hard to make fetch happen?
 

Nude_Tayne

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I'm so confused. Was there ever really a market need for a foldable phone in the first place? Why is Samsung trying so hard to make fetch happen?
You can ask that about any new smartphone technology that comes out. Pull a smartphone out of your pocket and turn it into a tablet. What exactly is the confusion about the appeal? This tech is very new and will only improve in the coming years.
 

Dalamar86

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Oct 30, 2017
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I'm so confused. Was there ever really a market need for a foldable phone in the first place? Why is Samsung trying so hard to make fetch happen?
Everyone: All the phones now are the same thing! Why doesn't anyone try something new!

*Samsung finds a new technology and invests significant R&D into it. Brings it to market in small batches to gauge interest.*

Also everyone: Who even asked for this?
 

dennett316

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Nov 2, 2017
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Everyone: All the phones now are the same thing! Why doesn't anyone try something new!

*Samsung finds a new technology and invests significant R&D into it. Brings it to market in small batches to gauge interest.*

Also everyone: Who even asked for this?
Well...yeah. Just trying something new doesn't make it a good idea. My range of inflatable dartboards and chocolate teapots taught me that.
 

Tremorah

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Dec 3, 2018
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That is fucking pathetic, who would buy this thing if its so easy to absolutely destroy it?
 

Joni

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm so confused. Was there ever really a market need for a foldable phone in the first place? Why is Samsung trying so hard to make fetch happen?
Well...yeah. Just trying something new doesn't make it a good idea. My range of inflatable dartboards and chocolate teapots taught me that.
People want bigger screens, but they don't want to carry around something bigger in their pocket/purse. So the easy next step: foldable phones.
 

Advc

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Nov 3, 2017
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Spoiler alert: literally 2 minutes in the video and the phone is already screwed up badly. I lost it at the "world's most expensive salt shaker" lmao. It's just great to see Samsung bringing new concepts to smarthphones where everything is becoming more and more boring and same-y, but this kind of foldable technology still needs some few years into the oven IMO.
 

Dalamar86

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Well...yeah. Just trying something new doesn't make it a good idea. My range of inflatable dartboards and chocolate teapots taught me that.
What's inherently bad about the actual concept? If they continue with the technology and manage to work the (many) kinks out is it still a bad idea? I mean we are talking about a technology with prototypes at trade shows which garnered a ton of interest on tech blogs and YouTube. Why not pursue it?
 

mario_O

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Nov 15, 2017
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It's clearly a fragile new piece of tech. But these "tests" are kinda ridiculous. What do u expect to happen if you scratch your phone with a knife or sharp object? or pour a lot of sand on it?
 

sph3re

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Oct 28, 2017
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Seeing it in action, it's... sort of a neat idea. The folded and unfolded versions are too small and big (respectively) for my liking. But with build quality like that, I'm okay with putting this phone out of my mind until they work out all the kinks.
 

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I actually do really like this concept/design

but... "a screen comparable to play-doh, soggy bread or a $2000 stick of chewing gum"... it's essentially still a prototype. sadly.

wouldn't mind seeing a design with a nice minimalist e-ink outer display for basic stuff, just to see how that affects the price. also would be a nice option to have a reflective/transflective outer screen for daylight visibility. it's cool that you can do pretty much anything with the outer screen but, like, why would you have a folding phone if not to use the full mode?
 

SupremeWu

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Dec 19, 2017
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This is like phone torture porn, so basically don't take box-cutters or lighters to my phone.

I do want a working foldable though, I'm waiting for them to become thinner and with less moving parts
 

Symphony

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm so confused. Was there ever really a market need for a foldable phone in the first place? Why is Samsung trying so hard to make fetch happen?
Of course there is, people want small phones for portability yet they also want large screens for watching videos or playing games. So if you have a small phone that can fold out to the size of a tablet when needed you've got the best of both worlds. It's an extension of old flip phones. Problem is the tech isn't even close to good enough yet (obviously) so you end up with complete trash like the Galaxy Fold. The Razr 2019 will be one to look for, sticking with the ultra compact original design yet with a foldable touchscreen inside (it's going to be basically unobtainable to the general public though).
 

NookSports

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Oct 27, 2017
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I think they got the initial product wrong. They should've released a smaller phone, like a modern razor
 

skeezx

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Oct 27, 2017
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i'll get in on the 5th gen or so. so i don't have to dick around with a tablet anymore (assuming the size is variable enough to replace one)

but for now noooo thanks
 

Fudgepuppy

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Oct 27, 2017
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it seems the only possible solution, is to have two glass screens with a lip in the middle. As long as plastic is as fragile as it is, this will always be problematic.
 

TheMango55

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Nov 1, 2017
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Why not just have two screens that fit together flush?

You can now make a foldable phone but still have durable glass screens.
 

Royalan

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Oct 24, 2017
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Oh wow, this looks to be a very informative and thorough durability review. I look forward to watching the entire vi--

OH MY GOD STOP RUNNING YOUR RAZOR ACROSS THE METAL WE GET IT WE GET IT WE GET IT!
 

mario_O

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I would definitely buy one if it wan't so expensive. I really like the concept. And as for the fragile screen, It wouldn't be a big deal for me. I'm always very careful with my hardware. And u can fold it to protect the screen.
 

Nappuccino

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Oct 25, 2017
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They should have stacked screens, so the screens can be a hard material and slide out.

But honestly, reading to some of the early tech-guy impressions about this phone, the fold-out concept sounds awesome and useful if it ever really gets sorted out.
 

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Was there a market for those dumb airpods before Apple decided to take away the headphone jack? I think Samsung is just trying to make their own market... With not so great results.

What? Lol

Wirelesss earbuds have been a thing for ages, long before Apple released AirPods. It was only a matter of time before the cord was completely cut on them from headphone companies, with or without a headphone jack available.
 

shoyz

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Oct 26, 2017
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While I knew that a plastic screen was going to be inherently fragile there's still something so innately shocking in seeing the screen get destroyed by a fingernail like it was soft butter. If it was designed with plastic screen protectors in mind it would make so much more sense as you could just swap it out over time, but screen protectors being forbidden is crazy. If they had it working with screen protectors and dust-proofed this would work.

I'm still at a loss to the weird design of it though. The thought of a full-sized phone folding out into a tablet sounds amazing, but the Fold is neither a decent phone nor a decent tablet (why the notch??). Super excited to see where they go in a few years, assuming the lack of foldable glass doesn't kill the prospects.
 

Futureman

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Sounds like a shitty try at a foldable phone but lol at people who can't understand how awesome this will be if they ever perfect it.
 
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They need to continue redesigning the hinge and interior screen before it's ready for mainstream market but I like the implementation of the idea. For the interior screen, I know Corning is showing a prototype they have where it can bend in half so that looks like it'll be solved. As for the hinge, something more sealed like what Lenovo has would probably be a more robust solution.



Corning bendable glass

Lenovo hinge in top top image
 

Keikaku

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Oct 27, 2017
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Throwing sand on it just asking for trouble, I doubt dust alone will cause trouble with the hinge. Also it's clearly not suited for anyone with long nails.

Otherwise it seems ok, at least it doesn't bend like the ipad. Hopefully Samsung sticks with it and evolves it to be more durable and cheaper in the future.
 

Rand a. Thor

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On one hand that razor error killing a good chunk of pixel rows was crazy cause a screen shouldn't be that sensitive with the protection it has, but on the other hand that bend test was impressive as hell. The hinge is durable then most phones and the screen didn't even take any damage. I would say that if it didn't have such a sensitive screen it actually fared better than most.
 
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Throwing sand on it just asking for trouble, I doubt dust alone will cause trouble with the hinge. Also it's clearly not suited for anyone with long nails.

Otherwise it seems ok, at least it doesn't bend like the ipad. Hopefully Samsung sticks with it and evolves it to be more durable and cheaper in the future.
When the phone's screen is very notably indented by a finger nail of a fairly typical length, any dust which gets caught between the screens when it's closed is going to wreck havoc. I certainly agree going straight to sand was a poor idea as it would have been better to build up to that, but the ease at which it got into the hinge just from being placed on the screen (let alone conditions like pockets) makes this a pretty unusable product that was not fit for public release as anything but a prototype.

I'm so confused. Was there ever really a market need for a foldable phone in the first place? Why is Samsung trying so hard to make fetch happen?

The potential is significant for a foldable phone made properly. It could eat into the market for tablets and eventually serve as a strong way to further bolster the sale of video (and creative) content through their marketplaces (by the bigger screen). A tablet and phone in one device has a very high potential in my potential, but only if the execution is very strong, and their effort thus far has been considerably short of the mark.
 
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