Right, that's what I mean, there are so many other factors that you can have that are equally or more important, that when you hear stuff like "I can't get a date because of my height", what it makes me think (and I am willing to be wrong on this is that there are other factors which could at least equally explain things.
I'm short as hell dude, I've also said on this forum that heightism is a real thing:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/wh...ir-height-so-much.158045/page-6#post-27208628
I do think we need a cultural shift through stuff like better representation in media, modeling, what have you, if there is a pay gap that could be addressed through legislation (it won't happen but I'd advocate for it). A good thing might be an option on dating apps to filter out people who list a certain height as a requirement so you never have to come across them. I'm not calling you or anyone a liar, I just wanted to know for the short people that haven't had an issue dating, what are they doing to succeed and is it something that is impossible/would not work on a broad scale and also the issue of it potentially being a toxic male mindset that leads down the right wing/incel hole. Like, there are dudes who think because their chin isn't square or their eyes aren't perfectly symmetrical that they will never find anyone, as a short guy I don't want to see other short guys internalizing that attitude, especially when it would also totally work against being desirable to another person and would only make not being able to get dates worse.