I know and its abhorrent but I mean if parents decided to make that decision for a child it would rightfully be called out no matter the reasons for it.
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This American Life did a story about rich people seeking Growth Hormones treatment for their kids so they won’t be short
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I know and its abhorrent but I mean if parents decided to make that decision for a child it would rightfully be called out no matter the reasons for it.
Hoo boy do I have stories for you from India. I mean, here in the West, tanning yourself is pretty easy, all things considered.
Parents forcing their daughters (because of course) to bleach their fucking skin...
Yeah, South East Asia can be absolutely fucked up in that regard.
When I was single apps like tinder weren't the easiest. Many a time the first question would be "how tall are you". Of course you can try and use some game to get them focusing on something else but it was damn annoying constantly being asked how tall you are before anything else.
As a 6'1" man I only notice the tall men because they are that tall in a sea of short peeps.
How well do growth hormones work while you're growing.
a kid who would end up being 5 8 could be 6 foot if given enough?
a kid who would end up being 5 8 could be 6 foot if given enough?
Steroids too, and look hoy many of this instagram athletes and movie stars are on gear. This doesn't stop people.
If you're normal that is the estimate, a few inches. However if you're not, the gain can be massive.
I suppose if you are in crowds a lot you would notice it because you just see more people in general.
Steroids have made a huge comeback in recent years due to how men's attractiveness has shifted back to super ripped due to (IMO) the rise of super hero movies. People like to talk about how Hollywood sets ridiculous beauty standards for women, but it's getting to be almost just as bad for men.
I had a friend in high school whose parents would drive him 5 hours to a specialist regularly for some kind of growth hormone treatment to hopefully get taller. I matured quickly (started getting tall earlier than most of my peers) and was over a foot taller than him at one point, but he caught up later. No idea if the treatment helped.
I have no clue how much money they had or if they got insurance to cover it. Parents worked fairly middle class jobs but I think there was some family money.
It's really changed in the last few years. I used to tower over everyone on muni/bart. About 10 years ago it felt like there were more and more very tall European descended people than there used to be.
I have no clue how much money they had or if they got insurance to cover it. Parents worked fairly middle class jobs but I think there was some family money.
It's really changed in the last few years. I used to tower over everyone on muni/bart. About 10 years ago it felt like there were more and more very tall European descended people than there used to be.
And I'd have been happy had my parents done it for me. I'm not short, but being taller would be dope.
Yeah, it's gonna get weird when gene editing breaks through but only the rich can afford aesthetically perfect designer babies while the rest of us just have to roll the genetic dice.
My brother and I each had 6 years of daily injections of HGH because we were diagnosed with growth hormone deficiency.
I'd have been under 5 ft tall without it; instead I am 5'10".
It was covered by our normal insurance.
I had a 3 hour blood test (GH levels checked every 15-30 min while they did some sort of tests, not sure what exactly) and an MRI of my pituitary gland to get the diagnosis.
The vials of Nutropin AQ (what I took) were stupid expensive; we couldn't have afforded it w/o insurance.
Each tiny 10mg vial cost $450 (back in like 1998), and as my dosage went up as I gained weight, a vial started out lasting a week and at the end lasted only 3~ days.
I was on it from 6th-11th grade. They did x-rays to check growth plates on my bones; once those are fused there's not really any more height to be gained and it's time to stop
I'd have been under 5 ft tall without it; instead I am 5'10".
It was covered by our normal insurance.
I had a 3 hour blood test (GH levels checked every 15-30 min while they did some sort of tests, not sure what exactly) and an MRI of my pituitary gland to get the diagnosis.
The vials of Nutropin AQ (what I took) were stupid expensive; we couldn't have afforded it w/o insurance.
Each tiny 10mg vial cost $450 (back in like 1998), and as my dosage went up as I gained weight, a vial started out lasting a week and at the end lasted only 3~ days.
I was on it from 6th-11th grade. They did x-rays to check growth plates on my bones; once those are fused there's not really any more height to be gained and it's time to stop
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I'm 5'9, which mean I am dead average for a caucasian male. Anyone who judges me for that can kindly go fuck themselves, and I wouldn't want to date anyone who feels that way anyhow.
Good for you but this isn't about you. Mocking short people is pretty common around the world and height is part of male beauty which determines a lot how people treat you, pay you and judge you.
There's good reason to believe that attraction to height is programmed into us. And if so that's not something you can just teach out of people.
Apart from the fact that the money could go to better uses, I'm not sure there's anything wrong with this unless there's adverse health effects.
welp you were definitely more lucky than me, 5'10 is tall compared to my 5'2 now, even with the hormones (but i'm least i'm not 4'5 like it was predicted if i didn't take any)
Isn't the hormone therapy discussed in the op completely different from this?
Yeah, my brother ended up 5'11". We were pretty fortunate that it worked so well for us.
a 9 inch height improvement ain't shabby either though. I don't miss the daily injections, that's for sure lol
I'm not 100% sure, but I will say I did end up with size 13 feet when my 6-year treatment was done. My brother didn't have that though
You're not most people then, shorter guys especially deal with a lot of social discrimination
Height is one of the many privileges this place seems to take for granted. Guys posting like 5'8" plus that ain't short in the big picture.
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My parents considered doing this for me because they thought I was too short. I fought against it because I didn't care about being tall.
I didn't end up getting it, and I'm the average height for a Colombian woman, below average for an American woman. Only slightly shorter than my mother.
I did get puberty blockers for a year instead because I got my period early to the point it was pretty traumatic. I have no idea if it was covered by insurance.
I didn't end up getting it, and I'm the average height for a Colombian woman, below average for an American woman. Only slightly shorter than my mother.
I did get puberty blockers for a year instead because I got my period early to the point it was pretty traumatic. I have no idea if it was covered by insurance.
Not sure what that has to do with getting rid of the 'manlet' stigma, i.e. specifically an issue of body image concerning men. You can't modify someone's preferences but you can change social norms and positive representation.
Yes. And (at least several years ago from experience) you can filter those who are too small/tall for your liking.
Alright, so it makes it harder online dating, but a nightmare? Why not try meeting people IRL like before there were apps? I think anyone with any "undesirable" trait is going to hard a harder time on platforms where those things can be easily filtered out, but it isn't the only way to date, unless that's just me talking from the perspective of someone who hasn't dated since apps became prevalent, but just 3 years ago Pew Research said that only 5% of people in committed relationships had met through dating apps. There's so many shorter dudes who are in relationships and so many people who say height is not a dealbreaker that it's hard to reconcile it making things a nightmare.
I've heard about it Ein, I just disagree with the characterization that it makes things a nightmare. It's concerning to me because it's something men internalize and then can use as a post-hoc rationalization for why they have trouble dating, and that can lead to really toxic attitudes towards women. I'm not saying anyone posting here is doing that, but people read it and the message it can send is "if you're short, you're fucked, might as well take a red pill" or whatever the fuck. I've admitted online it might make things more challenging, but even then, who would want to be with a person who would discount someone based on a fairly meaningless immutable characteristic?
I hope I'm wrong, but it seems like there are many people on this site (and on the internet in general) who don't want to admit that physical appearance matters (to varying extents) in most if not all known human interactions, which is really funny if you think about. Have you ever noticed that most of the people who give dating advice online are the same people who regularly post photos of themselves, and are surprisingly at least average looking to attractive? That they have certain aesthetic traits that are according to what data there is are considered advantageous?
Almost no one wants to admit that it wasn't just their glowing personality that helped get them their jobs, their friends, their significant others, etc. Almost no one wants to admit that many people will treat someone poorly and assume very negative things about them because they don't meet certain appearance standards. REALLY funny if you think about, on this site of all places.
Almost no one wants to admit that it wasn't just their glowing personality that helped get them their jobs, their friends, their significant others, etc. Almost no one wants to admit that many people will treat someone poorly and assume very negative things about them because they don't meet certain appearance standards. REALLY funny if you think about, on this site of all places.
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Not being tall or hot makes online dating a nightmare for guys. You can say this may lead to toxic behavior on their part but it doesn't change that it's still a nightmare for them.
Online dating is shallow as fuck and when you're not the ideal body type, you're gonna have a real hard time.
My friend who lived down the street was given growth hormone.
His elder sister was really short, like 5'4". He and his sister were both given it and the sister was about 5'6" and he grew to 5'9", which was much taller than his parents.
I can't say if it was worth it or if it even works but he always seemed very healthy.
That's no different than clubbing then.
That's also a real meat market.
People are shitty no matter the environment.
But then how does that explain shorter guys who don't have a hard time? What is it that makes them have an easier time?
Poor short guys have to deal with constantly being treated differently and when they talk about it, people tell them they're lying.
Personality, Face, dating online less, meeting people outside of the more vicious environemnts
I've heard a lot about these treatments, theyre usually covered under insurance if the kid either has a diagnosed deficiency or is considerably shorter than they should be for their age. It all has to be documented by a pediatrician and whatnot.
online dating is a nightmare for almost everyone (especially women and LGBT folks). I've never felt my shortness added to it.