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Thimbleweed Park Sold Most on Nintendo eShop, Lowest on PS Store. PC biggest platform (Steam+GOG).
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I see. That's a shame, there are a lot of quality indie games that could use the extra sales.
Absolutely. I feel it may be a money issue though, EA and Activision are likely throwing money towards Sony for those prominent spots and Indies just can't compete with that. Nintendo on the other hand has been pretty consistent at putting most new releases in there "featured" section on the eShop.
That was before Switch blew up.
https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/twp-players-on-steam-revealed/2891/15
Ron was *not* expecting switch sales to be anywhere near this good when he made those comments about underperforming.
I don't know that it would now be considered a success, as afaik Ron has never commented on how the game did overall since the summer, but it's in a significantly better place then it was when he made those comments.
A really great game even if playing it on switch docked it's not quite the most comfortable way. Either way, me and my wife had a real blast.
Underperforming towards expectations can still mean a success.
Also his post only stated that the Steam sales didn't meet his expectation.
Again doesn't mean it hasn't done well.
Like I posted earlier, the bigger point for me was that a year after release they were able to get a lot of new sales ln Switch.
Yep and this is why real competition is a good thing in the PC market.
And why despite taking a higher cut than other places, Steam should still be the #1 place to launch an indie game on PC.
Can't say I'm surprised at all a game that looks like this didn't sell on PS or XB.
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I had a hard time getting my friends to play Resogun or even download the excellent guacamelee when it was a PS+ game.
I know nobody in real life who would buy a game with that art style on their PS4.
Way too many people won't give 2d games a chance these days.
And, in some countries it's pretty easy to do so, because games on GOG are also much cheaper than on Steam:
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I wouldn't worry, if an indie game is coming to PC and Switch there's no reason for it not to show up on PS4 or 5. the only thing that may happen is more late releases or slower post-launch support but even then I wouldn't worry. sales would have to be real shit for it to make sense to skip the platform altogether.
Not surprised that the game sold best on PC, you would expect as much from a point and click. Only slightly surprising thing is how close it is.
I would guess the triple-whammy of it probably getting buried on Sony's store, being a point & click game that you use a controller for, and the pixel art style. My impression has been Double Fine's stuff sells solidly on PS4, but I'd assume they get featured.
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It doesn't say anywhere in the article that the nintendo number is eshop only. I suspect the LRG physical is a healthy chunk of the Nintendo number. It was the first ever LRG switch release, had an open preorder and was said to have done exceedingly well.
The LE version of the LRG release was also awesome:
Amend the Thread Title. This isn't Eshop only. Steam might still win lmao.
I guess this is a good example of what Microsoft is talking about when they refer to user engagement.
Xbox has basically the same service and, with way less console sold, it outsold the PS version by quite a margin.
"We've got to understand that if we enjoy those games, the business opportunity has to be there for them. I love story-based games. I just finished [LucasArts-inspired RPG] Thimbleweed Park – I thought it was a fantastic game. Inside was probably my game of last year. As an industry, I want to make sure both narrative-driven single-player games and service-based games have the opportunity to succeed. I think that's critical for us."
Phil Spencer interviewed buy the guardian (who thinks Thimbleweed Park is a RPG)
https://www.theguardian.com/technol...-episodes-subscription-downloads-phil-spencer
Phil Spencer interviewed buy the guardian (who thinks Thimbleweed Park is a RPG)
https://www.theguardian.com/technol...-episodes-subscription-downloads-phil-spencer
No? I googled this game I've never heard of and posted my conlusion of the OP lol
This forum is so thirsty for console wars...
For quite some time, many indies had been underperforming on PS4. Whether it's an excess of choices, AAA competition undermining people's interest, or the "indie bubble" bursting for the platform, it's clear there are signs of regression. Only very big, frequently advertised indies are doing well right now on PS. If your game is not a console/full exclusive, releases close to some blockbuster (this TP went against Uncharted: The Lost Legacy) or the game style isn't ideal for a couch experience, it's going to suffer badly.
Given the choice, this kind of game sounds ideal for a handheld device. I guess you could remote-play through Vita, but let's be real, that choice doesn't even exist in the mind of many people.
Given the choice, this kind of game sounds ideal for a handheld device. I guess you could remote-play through Vita, but let's be real, that choice doesn't even exist in the mind of many people.
Gang Beasts was pretty successful, btw (Double Fine is a publisher). This game was always in PSN top sales chart since release in Europe (except last month). So, it all depends on type of game.
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A sample of '1' is statistically irrelevant no matter what you think of the number.
For arguments about what Indies do on respective platforms we'd need to know % of indie-published games from the platform's yearly shipments.
Eg. % of Indies from 100M in 2018 Switch, vs % of indies from ~250-300M on PS4 (or 400+ if we added XB1).
It's entirely possible Indies sell a lot better on Switch, but even if the ratio is 4:1 it'd still amount to the same number on other platforms.
If you are gonna shit on a game, you could at least use just one more minute to see if it's really representative of the game. You could also do some thinking about why PC and Switch players bought the game if the game was so terrible as you seemed to think. You just linking that image without even a small effort to check it and/or do some thinking, comes off as petty and seems like console warring even if you didn't mean it (nobody means to do console wars anyway), and it's pretty ironic you accuse anyone else of console warring.
Switch is always going to do super well in indie sales if the game is not resource intensive. If the game largely looks the same between platforms, the Switch has the portability factor, less competition, and Nintendo Directs do a good job marketing a variety of games on a regular basis.
Being able to pick up and play anywhere in the house, or even outside the house, is a pretty big plus for a lot of people who can't always get screen time, dedicated time in their game room, or don't own a TV/multiple TVs.
Beyond that I get the impression that a lot of people also really enjoy playing 2D experiences in handheld mode. Maybe it's a nostalgia thing, or easier readability, not really sure. Certainly I think the Nintendo fanbase in particular has the biggest connection to those styles of games on the console side.
Being able to pick up and play anywhere in the house, or even outside the house, is a pretty big plus for a lot of people who can't always get screen time, dedicated time in their game room, or don't own a TV/multiple TVs.
Beyond that I get the impression that a lot of people also really enjoy playing 2D experiences in handheld mode. Maybe it's a nostalgia thing, or easier readability, not really sure. Certainly I think the Nintendo fanbase in particular has the biggest connection to those styles of games on the console side.
This game is just perfect on switch. Would've never played it on consoles without touch controls.
None of those games compete with Thimbleweed Park. That's like saying god of war competes with Farming simulator or Gone Home.also, choices, choices, choices :)
competition on PSN is pretty big right now
I picked this up on Xbox and PC, and ended up recommending it to a bunch of other people early on.
To someone familiar with the genres for these games, this post feels close to self-parody.
also, choices, choices, choices :)
competition on PSN is pretty big right now
To someone familiar with the genres for these games, this post feels close to self-parody.
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This is just more evidence that Sony and Microsoft have dropped the ball this gen in cultivating a healthy environment for indies to launch their games. I don't see a reason why Switch owners' fervor for indie games (shown here in the eShop thread, on Reddit and elsewhere) where fans seemingly watch every new trailer for each game and curate lists of recommendations each release week can't be replicated elsewhere.
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It doesn't say anywhere in the article that the nintendo number is eshop only. I suspect the LRG physical is a healthy chunk of the Nintendo number. It was the first ever LRG switch release, had an open preorder and was said to have done exceedingly well.
The LE version of the LRG release was also awesome:
It's a comparison between digital storefronts. The title on the graph is the confirmation. Hell, it wouldn't make sense otherwise.
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Uhhhh?also, choices, choices, choices :)
competition on PSN is pretty big right now
Please point me to where I shat on anything. I simply stated I'm not surprised a pixel art P&C game failed on PS4/XB1. You guys are so furious that you read a post and then make some crazy shit up in your head to reply to.
Wait, are you saying that person who played Yakuza or any other game, will never give a chance to Thimbleweed park? It's maybe will be a surprise for you, but many people don't choose just one genre.
They actually are. They're compete for consumer's wallet.
If that's the case the Switch version came out even further ahead then the graph suggests, as they sold 14,000 physical switch copies.
Very impressive.
It's not. Chart in $ revenue, not in amount of copies sold.
Don't forget about region-specific prices on GOG and Steam:
So, basically, ^ in this case 1 copy on Switch will bring the same amount revenue as 3 copies on GOG.
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None of those games compete with Thimbleweed Park. That's like saying god of war competes with Farming simulator or Gone Home.also, choices, choices, choices :)
competition on PSN is pretty big right now
In the same sense that donuts and BBQ sauce compete for consumers wallets.
And it's only $9.99 on Apple store. That means in terms of copies sold they're not so far from Switch (on eShop game costs $19.99).
That's very narrow thinking.
It's not. Chart in $ revenue, not in amount of copies sold.
Don't forget about region-specific prices on GOG and Steam:
So, basically, ^ in this case 1 copy on Switch will bring the same amount revenue as 3 copies on GOG.
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Jaded Alyx suggested the nintendo figure was eshop only, so the $ revenue wouldn't include the 14K copies I was talking about.
Pretty much this, also by the time I might be interested in indie games, some AAA game I previously missed are on sale and unfortunately I'd rather play them instead.
Now the games on the Switch eShop are vastly different from what's available on PS4 and Xbox so indies tend to stick out a lot more. My games library would likely contain more indies if the Switch was my primary gaming device. Thimbleweed does look quite appealing after all, just not necessarily what most of the PS4/ XBO audience wants I guess?
about that - you should probably ask Ron Gilbert directly, he's answering on some questions in comments section – https://grumpygamer.com/twp_sales
