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They really nerfed the direwolves
- Thread starter BladeoftheImmortal
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You really shouldn't. That scene was her goodbye and we won't see her again. I really doubt there'll be any Arya/Hound traveling scenes and the next time we see them they'll be at KL.
He also begins killing them off (Lady) or sending them away (Nymeria) almost immediately. Only Summer, Ghost and Shaggydog are still around in the books...Robb's dire wolf had his head sewn to Robb's decapitated body.
I'm expecting the remaining book wolves to get done dirty too at this point
At this point, I wouldn't expect much better but the point is the books aren't to this same payoff point. The series is at the finale and they are not utilizing one of the first thematic devices they introduced.
Jon/Arya having wolf dreams is a major theme in the book. It certainly seemed to be building up to them having some of the same powers as Bran, albeit more limited (i.e. just to be able to "warg" into their direwolf).
I wouldn't really capitalize on what GRRM has been "building up to", because most of the time he builds and builds until a payoff seems imminent, and then he goes build something else because he got bored.
We need it for Endgame apparently, so yeah lol (it annoys me too)
Ghost is going to be the vessel for Jons mind/soul until his body is somehow repared/ressurected.
Oh, you mean there a guy holding him at gunpoint saying "No, don't give that storyline any sort of closure, just kill the character and introduce 15 more new viewpoints!".
That explains everything.
book 1 opens with the stark children each taking a wolf pup. immediately we are attached to them alongside their respective characters. It's a pretty good hook actually, as we want to see how both the wolves and the characters grow and go on their journies.
the show does everything it can to downplay the wolves and remove them from the story, despite years of fan outcry. It's been one of the biggest disappointments for me. The books may have strayed away from their importance as well, but nowhere near to the same degree.
As a compromise what they should have done is focus on Ghost a lot more after the other wolves get written out of the show. make him huge and badass, and spend some of that dragon CGI budget on ghost. Just a handful of noteworthy scenes a season with him would be enough to quell most complaints. But they can't even give us that much.
the show does everything it can to downplay the wolves and remove them from the story, despite years of fan outcry. It's been one of the biggest disappointments for me. The books may have strayed away from their importance as well, but nowhere near to the same degree.
As a compromise what they should have done is focus on Ghost a lot more after the other wolves get written out of the show. make him huge and badass, and spend some of that dragon CGI budget on ghost. Just a handful of noteworthy scenes a season with him would be enough to quell most complaints. But they can't even give us that much.
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After HBO's treating of horses and how many of them died under their watch, they are better off not handing dogs or any small animal. Keep Ghost cgi, have him do the nod of budget and be done with it.
They have done piss all with Ghost for what has felt like 3+ seasons and only really showed him off in 3 episodes. Let the wolf go up north, have peace, hunt and roam free. Jon was right to let him go, be free Ghost, live the rest of your life. Veteran of the War of Winterfell. He will get his purple heart in the mail.
They have done piss all with Ghost for what has felt like 3+ seasons and only really showed him off in 3 episodes. Let the wolf go up north, have peace, hunt and roam free. Jon was right to let him go, be free Ghost, live the rest of your life. Veteran of the War of Winterfell. He will get his purple heart in the mail.
He is able to warg and his last word is 'Ghost'... so yeah I think it is very possible he warged into Ghost before dying.
I'm questioning the idea that:
A. GRRM will actually want to do something with this.
B. GRRM actually pushes out another book.
In the books Jon wargs into Ghost. Arya wargs into Nymeria but just thinks she is dreaming, Nymeria has a huge wolfpack roaming the Riverlands killing Lannister forces and by the end she is hunting Arya down and is just misses her as she leaves for Braavos. Rickon is turning feral as he is warging into Shaggydog but as he's so young and his mind isn't developed he can't control it properly and it is effecting him.
I'm actually buying it. The interaction with the dragons consists 99% of John sitting on top of a big prop and CG on top of it is added later. In Ghost's situation, it would be entirely CGI, so rotoscoping would play a larger role (thus more time) if I had to guess.
A. I personally think so
B: His heirs will once he is dead....... :(
Especially since the entire point of the book's prologue was to show what happens when a warg "dies".
Nymeria is off causing chaos in the riverlands and will likely be important to Arya's plot, Summer and Shaggydog are always next to Bran and Rickon, and Shaggydog is gonna get into some fights on Skagos, and Ghost is well, Ghost. Lady is the only forgotten one in the books, but yeah, they are much more focused on in the books.
Lol people expect better out of the show runners at this point?
It's like this on the gaming side now too. I pray there isn't a maximum number of ignored threads, but if there is I'll find it at this pace.
Also implied that's what Robb did with his last words before dying being "Grey Wind" and then Grey Wind killing a bunch of people before he's taken down also.
At least those wolves are wild and there's a good reason not to hug them.
At the end of that clip, she says "It's not you." I took that to mean it is not Nymeria, though there are other explanations.
This is a quite beloved series at its core, especially the books. The final series of GoT on TV is pretty upsetting for long term fans hoping for some closure that might never come from the books.
Moments like this in s8 are pretty rough for anyone who cares about the world and characters.
Yeah, right ones like going back to to Winterfell and being tamed isn't her just like what Gendry wants of Arya isn't her. BTW the line was "that's not you".
I don't know. I think Ghost plays into the endgame so far.
It would also make sense if you've ever read Robin Hobb's Assassin series, she and GRRM go way back, as
as a book reader, I've seen Jon warf into ghost in his sleep. The most common theory on him resurrecting before season 6, for book readers and tv watchers, is by going into Ghost. I think Tormund's lines about "you belong in the north" and Jon sending ghost instead are to foreshadow him dying and warging, living out his days running free in the north.
It would also make sense if you've ever read Robin Hobb's Assassin series, she and GRRM go way back, as
Game of Thrones and Assassin's Apprentice came out at the same time and there are some weird lore and story parallels in these two sagas, including our main hero being able to go inside their wolf at strange times and his soul living inside a wolf after he died.
Good points, all. Maybe they'll still play an important role.
That's from last season. Why is Ghost so tiny compared to Nymeria? Jon is a shit pet owner and probably hasn't been feeding him properly.
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Yes. But ghost is supposed to be the biggest of the pack.
That's from last season. Why is Ghost so tiny compared to Nymeria? Jon is a shit pet owner and probably hasn't been feeding him properly.
Ghost was never that large. It was the runt of the litter.
I'm always surprised at how much more attention this gets over the only woman of color on the show getting put in shackles and fridged for the sole purpose of providing character motivation for others.
no fuck this.
They fucking could have had him kneel down and put his hand to the side of Ghost where the camera wouldn't see contact. Could've used the same CG and had Jon do that.
No single human has ever said goodbye to their dog of 8 years with a fucking nod. get out.
It's been real disappointing too, they were one of my favorite aspects of the Starks in the books.
Ghost is not a "model". Ghost is a real high content wolfdog. The animal is filmed on green screen, and enlarged to appear bigger in the show. The animals used to represent the direwolves in the first season aren't wolves at all, but dogs. Northern Inuit dogs. That changed from Season 2 onward.
It was worth it if only for the memes.Ghost got the last laugh.
