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They Might Be Giants Mafia |OT| Everybody Dies Frustrated And Sad, And That Is Beautiful
- Thread starter Apopheniac
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Calm down, Palmfather, I think it's almost mathematically impossible for you to be scum, but you can't change my heart, even with wikilinks XD
Which I suppose I should mention. I'm not sure Verelios, AB, and Monkey are town. I'm just sure they're not scum.
Put some votes down, and get these motherfuckers on track, and I promise I'll be chill.
Okay, I'm just spitballing here, so if this is nonsense just let me know. Could a tracker be scum?
Yeah, scum tracker is a role. It makes no sense for scum to have a ninja and town to have no tracker though.
Yeah, and the dorito vendor more even than the also-ninja makes me think this game MUST have a tracker. There's no point to that role otherwise. None.
With maj so low, I'm generally reluctant to vote. It's not you, it's me.
I still have no idea what the dorito vendor was even supposed to be. What does fruit vendor do normally?
Oh, mafiawiki tells me that it's just so you can can confirm you're town to other people basically
Honestly, I dunno. He just seems like he's hiding something else in that role. Him not wanting to say what his role is as me a little weirded out
Me too. My special one time offer still stands though. I'm worried about these next couple of days and if I'm just going to be a distraction in the scum hunting, then go ahead and kill me
my #effortpost about Chugger is still being made, it's hard work digging through all this stuff but don't worry, I haven't forgotten
But he did, twice? Or is there a specific detail you want?
I dunno if it's #newplayer or #wtfery honestly, but I'd still put him below kits and TWE for now, pending more from them - what has you worried here specifically?
Has he? I thought he was just posting that he was the double lynch guy. Did I miss a post?
I've said what my role was repeatedly? I don't understand. I can't quote the whole role PM.
Let's dive into a hypothetical Chuggs scumposting scenario, only in recent memory.
So here, he knew that Puns wasn't scum. However, if you look at the language on display, he wasn't going hard against it. That's because it benefitted him to both have Puns be lynched and be on the record as having been against said lynching.
Early in this Day he offers the first attempt at directing the game towards some targets. Before then, it had been mostly discussion about the Puns flip and contextualizing it with the rest of the game. This is the first one that takes the step of suggesting active scum. That isn't a tell on it's own, however, let's continue with the discussion.
This one is a response to my own quoting. I still think he's burying the lede here. In a sense, it can make him look more Town if he's the one to bring up the possibility and deny it, but by even drawing attention to it in the first place it means it's something he's worried about other people getting to first.
This is his response to me bringing that fact up earlier in the thread. Again, Chuggs is burying the lede: Scum will absolutely vote for other scum to make themselves seem town. To insinuate this doesn't happen is a Tell in my books.
I find it interesting that a lot of this talk is predicated on Vere being correct. Pushing this could lead Chuggs to determine a non-scum target.
Chuggs is directing the fire towards others in ways that shields himself. He thinks that him bringing it up in the first place shields him; and now he's trying to bury the lead further by shifting the focus.
Projecting confusion is good for scum. If you keep Town squabbling among themselves they can easily be made to target someone late Day when a decision has to be made.
It feels like he's directing everything towards me as if he's floating the idea with all of you before you commit. But he's also saying "I don't have any clear leads". In my eyes this feels like he's floating the bait and waiting for people to bite, or waiting to see who bites on who to change direction without so much as waiting a beat.
There, he was getting tired of waiting and nobody biting, so he got more assertive.
Monks asks about it.
Chuggs is unable to elaborate on his reasons, despite floating me multiple times, implied and non-implied.
So in conclusion, Chuggs is far too cagey about something he seems dead sure about.
So here, he knew that Puns wasn't scum. However, if you look at the language on display, he wasn't going hard against it. That's because it benefitted him to both have Puns be lynched and be on the record as having been against said lynching.
Early in this Day he offers the first attempt at directing the game towards some targets. Before then, it had been mostly discussion about the Puns flip and contextualizing it with the rest of the game. This is the first one that takes the step of suggesting active scum. That isn't a tell on it's own, however, let's continue with the discussion.
This one is a response to my own quoting. I still think he's burying the lede here. In a sense, it can make him look more Town if he's the one to bring up the possibility and deny it, but by even drawing attention to it in the first place it means it's something he's worried about other people getting to first.
This is his response to me bringing that fact up earlier in the thread. Again, Chuggs is burying the lede: Scum will absolutely vote for other scum to make themselves seem town. To insinuate this doesn't happen is a Tell in my books.
I find it interesting that a lot of this talk is predicated on Vere being correct. Pushing this could lead Chuggs to determine a non-scum target.
Chuggs is directing the fire towards others in ways that shields himself. He thinks that him bringing it up in the first place shields him; and now he's trying to bury the lead further by shifting the focus.
Projecting confusion is good for scum. If you keep Town squabbling among themselves they can easily be made to target someone late Day when a decision has to be made.
It feels like he's directing everything towards me as if he's floating the idea with all of you before you commit. But he's also saying "I don't have any clear leads". In my eyes this feels like he's floating the bait and waiting for people to bite, or waiting to see who bites on who to change direction without so much as waiting a beat.
There, he was getting tired of waiting and nobody biting, so he got more assertive.
Monks asks about it.
Chuggs is unable to elaborate on his reasons, despite floating me multiple times, implied and non-implied.
So in conclusion, Chuggs is far too cagey about something he seems dead sure about.
Okay, I think I'm just screwing up the name of what I was asking for. Not the name of your song name or whatever, but like the name of like ninja or tracker. Unless it's just "Double lynch"
Mostly his eagerness, and how readily Chugger dropped that Godfather vote. When majority is so low I'd expect town to be a lot more cautious.
As someone who likes dealing with #facts and not #emotions how would you rank my effortpost?
It's just Double Lyncher. It's not technically a role under normal circumstances. Not even on the mafia wiki, really.
My bad. I was at work all day which normally works, but I had an hour of meetings and then a bunch of work. I'm home now, I'll be on mobile while I eat but around for day end.
I tried to put in comments where I thought they were helpful, but I'm honestly at sort of an impasse.
This is why days when no one votes suck. It's lot of people complaining about no one voting and then when someone does they get jumped on lmao
I'm going to go through this whole thing, but your first point is bringing up that I didn't vote Puns so I could say I was against it when I literally never brought it.
Their role doesn't do anything except visit a person. This usually serves as a foil for tracker roles, since they see someone moving and visiting someone, but have no idea what is going on. It can also create a false positive for a tracker in the (statistically rare) event that the fruit vendor visits a person on the night they are killed.
So basically, imagine Stuart had been a fruit vendor instead of a doctor. :-\ The day still ends with Stuart dead, because the moment he told us he was a dorito vendor most of us would not have believed him.
Come on brah, I've only really seen Godfather complaining about a lack of votes, and a lack of votes doesn't equate no discussion. I'd rather your vote be discussed beforehand and not just after after the fact.
Why does it matter that you never brought it? How does that impact the point I was making?
Hence why I have no votes on anyone right now. Want to see how things play out.
What time does day end?
I think it's a good post. I don't particularly have any counterpoints to it except what you attribute to malice, I attribute to inexperience. Either way, he's one of 3 on my list, so I wouldn't be upset if we pick him today.
*Brought it up. Accidentally missed a word. Because how am I using it to my advantage if no one is actually talking about it?
It's easy to reach majority when the thread gets heated. I'd rather that not be a possibility.
I've used an argument in my voting record a few times to try to convince people I'm town. I never brought up the Puns vote because I realize it doesn't actually matter.
Landmines in warfare sometimes remain untriggered. It's a thing. Knowing where they are is good.
Okay. I don't know how to defend myself on something that I did not say.