The detail about being left with mafia and losing is a good one. I feel like that's a harder detail to fake. Hmm. I gotta chew on this.
But how would scum (Fran) at that point in time know you're BP unless you breadcrumbed or they have a role cop somehow? I mean, obviously there's protection because of Comrade's role, it's just...why wouldn't they believe the protection came from the doctor?
The detail about being left with mafia and losing is a good one. I feel like that's a harder detail to fake. Hmm. I gotta chew on this.
That's just common sense on how BP works though? Working as intended.
I dunno, guess I just haven't seen/noticed such a detail before in a role PM.That's just common sense on how BP works though? Working as intended.
I feel that mechanically it doesn't matter since Mafia win automatically when they're at 1:1 with town so there's no need to NK and no need for a BP.The detail about being left with mafia and losing is a good one. I feel like that's a harder detail to fake. Hmm. I gotta chew on this.
No, I know that. What I'm remarking on is TWE including it in his post and how that impacts the way I read him as honest or lying.I feel that mechanically it doesn't matter since Mafia win automatically when they're at 1:1 with town so there's no need to NK and no need for a BP.
It does make a certain small amount of sense if you look at the Scum win condition. "Control a majority of the votes." In a 1v1 they don't control the majority of the votes (it's a tie). Granted, they could just spend sever nights trying to kill him until it sticks, but that just wastes everyone's time.
Mafia really just isn't for me. I'm always getting scum-read for behaving like myself, as opposed to actually good reasons, and I don't think that's ever going to change. I think this might be my last game.
To be fair people (me) are regularly scum read for innocuous shit like responding quickly, late, tersely or too much, it's not a dig at how you're playing personally more that people see more than what's there. Your vote record is the best way to weather through that.Mafia really just isn't for me. I'm always getting scum-read for behaving like myself, as opposed to actually good reasons, and I don't think that's ever going to change. I think this might be my last game.
Sorry to hear you think that. Just want you to know it's something everyone goes through and I hope you're still having fun.I'll see this one through the end because I think we're late enough that me leaving would just be a modkill but after that I think I'm done. It ain't none of your faults, I'm just clearly not suited for it.
Sorry to hear you think that. Just want you to know it's something everyone goes through and I hope you're still having fun.
Here's a gif from me to you
Sorry to hear you think that. Just want you to know it's something everyone goes through and I hope you're still having fun.
Here's a gif from me to you
I work myself into pits I can never get out of for reasons that are generally never clear or articulated and I never last more than a few days, if I ever get past D1. It's happened in every game I've been in so far, and I've been in like, five games, and I still have no idea how to fix it because the problem is incredibly opaque and boils down to "S-she just seems scummy!". If it's something everyone goes through I don't think it's something I'm going to get out of.
And now I feel bad. If it makes you feel any better, it's mostly just because we're in a weird spot where scum isn't super obvious.
You had to use the worst second evolution in all of Pokemon to try and motivate someone? Disgusting.
It does seem arbitrary and that's because it often is when people decide on scum leqns with feelings and then use logic to support them. You're going to jump out of that mess eventually the more you play, it's just that the process is a bit frustrating. All I can say is I hope you enjoy the process.I work myself into pits I can never get out of for reasons that are generally never clear or articulated and I never last more than a few days, if I ever get past D1. It's happened in every game I've been in so far, and I've been in like, five games, and I still have no idea how to fix it because the problem is incredibly opaque and boils down to "S-she just seems scummy!". If it's something everyone goes through I don't think it's something I'm going to get out of.
kits, if I may, I will say that there is nothing in my potential scumread of you that is generated from feelings or anything else; it's a simple lack of content at the time. I had strong feelings about your predecessor's behavior and votes. I have nothing from you that is concrete, and that is the issue for me. I understand you are a replacement, but.
I think you were town every time I scum read you...still scummy.I mean, I get scumread for the way I talk and think so I feel you.
I feel like we're in a weird phase where emotions have kind of peaked and we're all just cooling down but also confused
bro, it is everyone all the time, i'm just used to feeling some kind of way about it nowI think you were town every time I scum read you...still scummy.
bro, it is everyone all the time, i'm just used to feeling some kind of way about it now
Can you point out where they are trying to drive discourse? And with Godfather, how this isn't in character for him? I don't know if you can answer that or if you've played with him before, but if you show me what you're seeing, at least I can consider it, since I have.But if y'all want me to offer something solid: I think TheChuggernaut is the most scummy person, with Godfather coming second. The specific way they're triyng to drive the game and discourse feels like an attempt to whip Town their way without tipping their hand that that's what they're doing. It's hard for me to articulate why exactly it feels like that though.
But if y'all want me to offer something solid: I think TheChuggernaut is the most scummy person, with Godfather coming second. The specific way they're triyng to drive the game and discourse feels like an attempt to whip Town their way without tipping their hand that that's what they're doing. It's hard for me to articulate why exactly it feels like that though.
Can you point out where they are trying to drive discourse? And with Godfather, how this isn't in character for him? I don't know if you can answer that or if you've played with him before, but if you show me what you're seeing, at least I can consider it, since I have.
Due to my role though I think Godfather is my number one...him voting me that early on felt like a way to get others to jump on my train quickly and easily. He saw the tides turning towards me and then blam. Vote. Easy train to get going.
This is kind of like the AbBro situation, though - how do you square the double lynch power with the apparent roleblocker? Like you can have reads but they also have to align with concrete information in the thread.Due to my role though I think Godfather is my number one...him voting me that early on felt like a way to get others to jump on my train quickly and easily. He saw the tides turning towards me and then blam. Vote. Easy train to get going.
But if y'all want me to offer something solid: I think TheChuggernaut is the most scummy person, with Godfather coming second. The specific way they're triyng to drive the game and discourse feels like an attempt to whip Town their way without tipping their hand that that's what they're doing. It's hard for me to articulate why exactly it feels like that though.
^^^^^^this is what I'm talking aboutProbably because I am ABSOLUTELY trying to drive town here. We have 3 people who are basically confirmed town. THREE! That's insane when we have 7 players. The problem is AB isn't really doing much but coasting as far as I can tell, Verelios is active, but not really driving towards any particular point yet,and Monkey has only had 1 Day phase to get you guys on track, and I'm pretty sure her thoughts line up pretty close to mine.
Meanwhile, we got people in here talking about guts and emotions and all this other dumb shit when there are HARD FACTS we can follow to a victory. I can only take so much of it before I lose patience and try to get the game moving.
^^^^^^this is what I'm talking about
I would not expect him to be any other way, tbh.
This might sound stupid, and I know flavor is only flavor, I can't get out the feeling that there might still be a neutral running around. But how likely would a double lynch or role block power be for neutral?Let me be clear; I think the double lynch power reads scummy as fuck but in the gamestate as it is? I don't see how it could be unless we are all very, very wrong.
Let me be clear; I think the double lynch power reads scummy as fuck but in the gamestate as it is? I don't see how it could be unless we are all very, very wrong.
This might sound stupid, and I know flavor is only flavor, I can't get out the feeling that there might still be a neutral running around. But how likely would a double lynch or role block power be for neutral?