Many of the major plot points from the ST came from George Lucas.
Yeah but he never got around to filming them and looks like for good reason.
Many of the major plot points from the ST came from George Lucas.
Agreed. This sequel trilogy is unnecessary. They should have created a whole new story in a far galaxy, separate from the events of the OT. This is just a Disney cash grab, pure and simple.That's getting butts in seats to be sure, but no matter how much they say it is, for me, the real ending to Star Wars is the end of Return of the Jedi. A dark villain redeemed, the Emperor and Empire thwarted, the heroes reunited and all together in the end...
I don't want to come off as a hater, but for me personally, that will always be the true ending to Star Wars.
It doesn't matter, he still basically did treatments or outlines for the films. No doubt he'd had these ideas sitting around for years. So the idea that the ST are fan fiction or completely independent from the creator of SW is false.Yeah but he never got around to filming them and looks like for good reason.
Real talk, one of the things I care for the least in this new trilogy is how they've basically undone everything that was accomplished in the OT. Fucking hell they even undid Palpatine's defeat. In my head I just have to treat this shit as some kind of elseworlds story.
Agreed. There's countless people and planets in this galaxy spanning civilization; the story has no end if we're supposed to believe that this is a thriving, wide spanning community. Let the Skywalker story end and move on to new characters.>galaxy-sized place to tell a story
>nope, there are no more stories, ever
Luke was involved with the Rebels, had an X-Wing, had a formal rank and everything.I thought it would be better for the new Jedi order.
Skywalkers for laser sword space magic users is pretty dope.
Plenty of writers and directors have general outlines for films. They also trash bin a lot of ideas too. There's no saying what George Lucas would have done because we all know he kind of makes shit up as things are being filmed.It doesn't matter, he still basically did treatments or outlines for the films. No doubt he'd had these ideas sitting around for years. So the idea that the ST are fan fiction or completely independent from the creator of SW is false.
Luke was involved with the Rebels, had an X-Wing, had a formal rank and everything.
Not everyone can have the Force, but everyone can be a freedom fighter like Luke.
The Last Jedi kind of felt like an ending in itself so I'm fascinated to see how they actually wrap things up.
Plenty of writers and directors have general outlines for films. They also trash bin a lot of ideas too. There's no saying what George Lucas would have done because we all know he kind of makes shit up as things are being filmed.
It doesn't matter, he still basically did treatments or outlines for the films. No doubt he'd had these ideas sitting around for years. So the idea that the ST are fan fiction or completely independent from the creator of SW is false.
That's getting butts in seats to be sure, but no matter how much they say it is, for me, the real ending to Star Wars is the end of Return of the Jedi. A dark villain redeemed, the Emperor and Empire thwarted, the heroes reunited and all together in the end...
I don't want to come off as a hater, but for me personally, that will always be the true ending to Star Wars.
This isn't really a good idea, though. Rogue One kind of showed that. Being a protagonist in a generally sci-fi action adventure tends to make things a bit weird power wise. Rogue One featured a cast of some really skillful people, so skillful that they kind of are on par with force users. It cheapens what force users can do, which is why I feel like George Lucas ramped them up to absurd levels in the prequels or why Darth Vadar NEEDED to crush at the end of Rogue One just to differentiate. I don't mind seeing freedom fighters, but if they're doing the same feats as story wise more powerful people then I just shrug.Luke was involved with the Rebels, had an X-Wing, had a formal rank and everything.
Not everyone can have the Force, but everyone can be a freedom fighter like Luke.
Agreed. This sequel trilogy is unnecessary. They should have created a whole new story in a far galaxy, separate from the events of the OT. This is just a Disney cash grab, pure and simple.
I have no idea. All I know is the dude probably had pages and pages of "hmmm, this might be interesting" somewhere. He literally made shit up as he went in the prequels. They had sets built for story parts that weren't even written. I would not be surprised if he toyed around with the idea of Luke actually being a Jedi leader in some rebuilt Jedi organization. He is an unreliable source because he's clearly quite all over the place with his own work.Didn't Lucas start making the early drafts for the sequels when he started considering selling Lucasfilm?
the old republic era is the best Star Wars content...Well, if all these movies that take place outside of the Skywalker saga don't do so well, they're definitely gonna do Episode X.
I'm open to new characters, new locations, new planets, but you take away the "Skywalker saga" aspect of it. Is that really Star Wars anymore? Something to think about.
Two things.
I started watching the Star Wars movies for the first time two years ago and can't help but feel that I did it way too late, since the other trilogies are coming up and supposedly the original are ruined now.
And second, Episode IX has leaked spoilers already? I thought it would be a huge deal if that happened. D:
Lol, the only post worst than OP's, which is tough feat to be sure.OK, but that doesn't take away from how horrible they are. Using Lucas to defend the story isn't going to win anyone over he's been terrible at SW ever since the prequels and that's why he didn't make these and sold to Disney instead, its too bad they actually went ahead and decided to listen to his ideas going forward although I don't think they did with TLJ I don't think even Lucas liked any of what happened with that disaster.
I agree Poe's skills are kinda hax but I actually value his and others' soldiering skills than the Jedi. I value the alliance of planets forming past their differences rather than under the singular Jedi moral authority, which itself is kinda muddy.This isn't really a good idea, though. Rogue One kind of showed that. Being a protagonist in a generally sci-fi action adventure tends to make things a bit weird power wise. Rogue One featured a cast of some really skillful people, so skillful that they kind of are on par with force users. It cheapens what force users can do, which is why I feel like George Lucas ramped them up to absurd levels in the prequels or why Darth Vadar NEEDED to crush at the end of Rogue One just to differentiate. I don't mind seeing freedom fighters, but if they're doing the same feats as story wise more powerful people then I just shrug.
I have no idea. All I know is the dude probably had pages and pages of "hmmm, this might be interesting" somewhere. He literally made shit up as he went in the prequels. They had sets built for story parts that weren't even written. I would not be surprised if he toyed around with the idea of Luke actually being a Jedi leader in some rebuilt Jedi organization. He is an unreliable source because he's clearly quite all over the place with his own work.
Lol, the only post worst than OP's, which is tough feat to be sure.
when all of the other star wars stuff isn't as popular as the "skywalker" saga stuff, they'll go back to it, rest assured
Considering just how large Star Wars has become since 1983, Return of the Jedi is just not big enough send off for the Skywalkers.
I agree. The Last Jedi felt like the end of the saga and if it was then I would have been ok but knowing there was another movie coming, it kinda didn't work. But thinking about it now, if 9 really is the ending to every 8 movies (like Endgame was for 22 movies ) then maybe it will work.
Yep I honestly have no freaking idea what this one is about since Rian Johnson subverted the formula by killing off Snoke in the second act of the second film when everyone expected that wouldn't happen till the third movie.
Ehhh the EU was a convoluted mess that covered so much it would be almost impossible to work around. Hell, it seems like it was difficult for a lot of the writers because there are so many contradictions and retellings of stories in the EUTo be honest, I don't think Disney throwing out the entire EU was the best option... they should've worked around it... but too late now.