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Rhaknar

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thats how it starts OP
 

Futureman

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"In German tradition, fairy rings were thought to mark the site of witches' dancing on Walpurgis Night, and Dutch superstition claimed that the circles show where the Devil set his milk churn."

Holy shit!
 

julia crawford

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Oct 27, 2017
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I really hate that the link to move to desktop version of the web app on Wikipedia is on the bottom of the page. That's way too far.
 

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"In German tradition, fairy rings were thought to mark the site of witches' dancing on Walpurgis Night, and Dutch superstition claimed that the circles show where the Devil set his milk churn."

Holy shit!

Lol. I never heard of that. Afaik the Dutch had the same superstition as the Germans. We call it a ' Heksenkring' (Witch circle)

If you step in it during a full moon, you'll never leave it though....so be careful
 

TooFriendly

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Oct 30, 2017
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did any dutch people ever ask why the devil needed a milk churn?

It's always about milk.
Like the Tilberi is made by witches to steal milk.

Tilberi - Wikipedia

"
The tilberi (carrier) or snakkur (spindle) is a creature of Icelandic folklore, created by witches to steal milk. Only women can create and own them.

The two terms are regional variants: both are used in eastern Iceland, 'tilberi' in the north and 'snakkur' in the south and west. There are no written mentions of the creatures before the 17th century, although one 17th-century writer mentions a witch being punished for having one in 1500.[1]

To create a tilberi, the woman steals a rib from a recently buried body early on Whitsunday, twists around it grey wool which she must steal for the purpose[2] (it is sometimes specified that the wool must be plucked from between the shoulders of a widow's sheep soon after its wool has been plucked) and keeps it between her breasts. The next three Sundays at communion she spits the sanctified wine on the bundle, which will come more alive each time.[3][4][5] She then lets it suckle on the inside of her thigh, which creates a tell-tale wartlikegrowth.[6]

The woman can now send the tilberi to suck milk from others' cows and ewes. It will return to the window of her dairy and call out "Full belly, Mummy!" or "Churn lid off, Mummy!" and vomit the stolen milk into her butter churn.[4] To suck the milk from the animal's udder, it jumps on her back and lengthens itself to reach down; in some versions it is said to be able to reach down on both sides to suck from two teats at once. Inflammatory hardening of the udder was traditionally ascribed to the tilberi, and as late as the 19th century, animals were protected by making the sign of the cross under the udder and over the rump and laying a Psalter on the spine.[7] Butter churned from milk stolen by a tilberi will clump together as if curdled, or even melt away into foam, if the sign of the cross is made over it or the smjörhnútur (butterknot) magical sign drawn in it.[4][7]

The tilberi also occasionally steals wool which has been put out to dry after shearing and washing; it rolls it around itself to form a giant moving ball.[8]

If the woman has a child and the tilberi manages to reach her own milk-filled breast, she is at risk of being sucked to death.[6] The traditional method of ridding oneself of a tilberi is to send it up the mountain to the common pasturage with orders to collect all the lambs' droppings; either all those in three pastures, or making three piles. The tilberi will then either work itself to death[8] or die because as an evil creature it cannot tolerate the number three.[4] Only the human bone will be left lying in the pasture.

A tilberi is very fast, but when chased it was believed to run home to its mother and hide under her skirts; her petticoat could then be tied or sewn closed under it and mother and creature either burnt or drowned together."
 

Cdammen

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Oct 27, 2017
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I walked on a fairy ring once. Felt a hollow thud as soon as I stepped on it with one foot. The mushrooms were around the edge of a wooden lid, that's what I stepped on once I peeled back some grass. It was put over some old hole, maybe an old well. Didn't put my whole weight on it hehe
 

Ed.

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I didn't know you could link to highlighted text in Wikipedia. Neat.
 

ChrisD

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It's always about milk.
Like the Tilberi is made by witches to steal milk.

Tilberi - Wikipedia

"
The tilberi (carrier) or snakkur (spindle) is a creature of Icelandic folklore, created by witches to steal milk. Only women can create and own them.

The two terms are regional variants: both are used in eastern Iceland, 'tilberi' in the north and 'snakkur' in the south and west. There are no written mentions of the creatures before the 17th century, although one 17th-century writer mentions a witch being punished for having one in 1500.[1]

To create a tilberi, the woman steals a rib from a recently buried body early on Whitsunday, twists around it grey wool which she must steal for the purpose[2] (it is sometimes specified that the wool must be plucked from between the shoulders of a widow's sheep soon after its wool has been plucked) and keeps it between her breasts. The next three Sundays at communion she spits the sanctified wine on the bundle, which will come more alive each time.[3][4][5] She then lets it suckle on the inside of her thigh, which creates a tell-tale wartlikegrowth.[6]

The woman can now send the tilberi to suck milk from others' cows and ewes. It will return to the window of her dairy and call out "Full belly, Mummy!" or "Churn lid off, Mummy!" and vomit the stolen milk into her butter churn.[4] To suck the milk from the animal's udder, it jumps on her back and lengthens itself to reach down; in some versions it is said to be able to reach down on both sides to suck from two teats at once. Inflammatory hardening of the udder was traditionally ascribed to the tilberi, and as late as the 19th century, animals were protected by making the sign of the cross under the udder and over the rump and laying a Psalter on the spine.[7] Butter churned from milk stolen by a tilberi will clump together as if curdled, or even melt away into foam, if the sign of the cross is made over it or the smjörhnútur (butterknot) magical sign drawn in it.[4][7]

The tilberi also occasionally steals wool which has been put out to dry after shearing and washing; it rolls it around itself to form a giant moving ball.[8]

If the woman has a child and the tilberi manages to reach her own milk-filled breast, she is at risk of being sucked to death.[6] The traditional method of ridding oneself of a tilberi is to send it up the mountain to the common pasturage with orders to collect all the lambs' droppings; either all those in three pastures, or making three piles. The tilberi will then either work itself to death[8] or die because as an evil creature it cannot tolerate the number three.[4] Only the human bone will be left lying in the pasture.

A tilberi is very fast, but when chased it was believed to run home to its mother and hide under her skirts; her petticoat could then be tied or sewn closed under it and mother and creature either burnt or drowned together."


WHY IS OLD FOLKLORE ALWAYS SO WEIRD

OP, your reasons are reasonable, but no picture is still a bit saddening. How else can we see the butter churn in your neighborhood?
 

Akira86

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Oct 25, 2017
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some of these explanations sound like they were made up as an excuse to burn witches.

"yes you see, this is how she stole the milk. first she dug up a dead body, and sold her soul to satan, and stole some wool from a sheep...."
 

Sacrilicious

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Oct 30, 2017
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It's always about milk.
Like the Tilberi is made by witches to steal milk.

Tilberi - Wikipedia

"
The tilberi (carrier) or snakkur (spindle) is a creature of Icelandic folklore, created by witches to steal milk. Only women can create and own them.

The two terms are regional variants: both are used in eastern Iceland, 'tilberi' in the north and 'snakkur' in the south and west. There are no written mentions of the creatures before the 17th century, although one 17th-century writer mentions a witch being punished for having one in 1500.[1]

To create a tilberi, the woman steals a rib from a recently buried body early on Whitsunday, twists around it grey wool which she must steal for the purpose[2] (it is sometimes specified that the wool must be plucked from between the shoulders of a widow's sheep soon after its wool has been plucked) and keeps it between her breasts. The next three Sundays at communion she spits the sanctified wine on the bundle, which will come more alive each time.[3][4][5] She then lets it suckle on the inside of her thigh, which creates a tell-tale wartlikegrowth.[6]

The woman can now send the tilberi to suck milk from others' cows and ewes. It will return to the window of her dairy and call out "Full belly, Mummy!" or "Churn lid off, Mummy!" and vomit the stolen milk into her butter churn.[4] To suck the milk from the animal's udder, it jumps on her back and lengthens itself to reach down; in some versions it is said to be able to reach down on both sides to suck from two teats at once. Inflammatory hardening of the udder was traditionally ascribed to the tilberi, and as late as the 19th century, animals were protected by making the sign of the cross under the udder and over the rump and laying a Psalter on the spine.[7] Butter churned from milk stolen by a tilberi will clump together as if curdled, or even melt away into foam, if the sign of the cross is made over it or the smjörhnútur (butterknot) magical sign drawn in it.[4][7]

The tilberi also occasionally steals wool which has been put out to dry after shearing and washing; it rolls it around itself to form a giant moving ball.[8]

If the woman has a child and the tilberi manages to reach her own milk-filled breast, she is at risk of being sucked to death.[6] The traditional method of ridding oneself of a tilberi is to send it up the mountain to the common pasturage with orders to collect all the lambs' droppings; either all those in three pastures, or making three piles. The tilberi will then either work itself to death[8] or die because as an evil creature it cannot tolerate the number three.[4] Only the human bone will be left lying in the pasture.

A tilberi is very fast, but when chased it was believed to run home to its mother and hide under her skirts; her petticoat could then be tied or sewn closed under it and mother and creature either burnt or drowned together."

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