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There are now 34 million gamers in Germany, and they're shifting away from PC
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consoles are getting a lot more simulation games for sure. theres that farming one, city building, and the new flight sim is coming to xbox.
those kind of games are coming to console more often now though. last gen there were definitely less simulation games. this gen we've got crpgs like divinity, pillars of eternity, wasteland etc.
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Yep lol. The original article said 4.4m in the opening line but I took the liberty of editing it to 4.4b because, well, it wouldn't make much sense otherwise
The huge drop in 2018 is pretty striking. Anything that could have brought it about? A measurement anomaly? PUBG and Fortnite? I guess only a tenth of the drop is made up in the increase in mobile, though it may be a delayed effect where people played both platforms for some time after going almost exclusively mobile. The death of desktops has long been prophesized and greatly exaggerated, but maybe it's happening?
Is there anywhere where phones AREN'T the most popular platform? Everyone has one and even if you play just one game it counts so it should be the market leader just about everywhere.
yeah, but they're almost always really hamfisted and totally out of place being played on a controller and they would never exist in that manner on consoles if they werent ported down from PC. Why do you think no one has ever made a Baldurs Gate game or Original Sin game on console only before?
Probably because the german term for "billion" is "Milliarde" and the term for "trillion" is "Billionen". It's a bit confusing sometimes.
Maybe PC gamers got families or just older and prefer the simplicity of console and mobile gaming. Or maybe it is Fortnite. What I know is that PC gaming is less popular among (young) students. They almost exclusively game on mobile or the console that is available in the family. And they play minecraft and fortnite predominantly. Or some mobile stuff I don't recognize.
The 2018 drop is stark. This being a developed economy do we have any reason to believe this trend is mirrored in other European markets, or in the US?
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Pc gaming is very expensive, need to speed above 1000$ to play the last games, you can get a console for 200$ that does the exact same thing.
In EU should be even worse, German is the top country in terms of Money follow by France, UK and Switzerland.
So PC drop 3.9M while mobile grew 0.4M... What did those 3.5M other people do? Did they drop out completely or go to dedicated (hybrid) consoles?
Find my a pc that can play Assasins Creed Odysey for less that 1000$, with everything not just the tower.
The parts in this video are ancient by PC standards. You can get much better value now, even with new parts.
Fine, go to Amazon in find a pc that can run Assasins Creed Odysey for that value, maybe you will get a minimum of 700$ and that is already pushing it. Monitor, Tower, Mouse and a Keyboard.
And them compare to the base ps4 or the xbox one s. Come to your own conclusions.
Mobile games are huge. You see all kinds of people play them everywhere here. I think most game developers, or at least the biggest, are mobile game developers too.
Though if those people consider themself "gamers" or even gaming as a hobby is a different question.
Though if those people consider themself "gamers" or even gaming as a hobby is a different question.
Most families already have a tv....
Im talking about the casual consumer, not the hardcore one.
Find me a console that'll play minecraft without a TV
See, I can do this stupid shit too.
It's called a "Nintendo Switch". :P
Edit: You can even play Minecraft on the Vita and the New 3DS.
Maybe, justg maybe, leraning the difference between already owning a tv instead of having to buy a monitor for or pc? Just maybe... And the Swtich proves your point wrong.
My point, is that pc is way more expensive that a console. That is my point.
You get more value from buying a console that you do from a pc in terms of gaming.
Base Xbox One and PS4... so 720p-1080p at 30fps with dips to the low 20s and medium to low settings.
This 500 dollar rig does everything better and a lot more. No online fee, mods, choose every controller you want.
Use your tv or a monitor for 100. mouse and keyboard is like 15 bucks
That will run better than 20fps low quality xbox one/ps4. Yes!
thats 3x the price point of a console. Is still cheaper that getting a pc.
Good luck with that.
Not true.
Over time, PC is cheaper due to cheaper games and no online paywalls.
Also your 1k requirement to play Odyssy is total fabrication. A 500-600 PC could do that easily.
While I won't disagree, I'd say you can get a comparable gaming experience for a similar costing PC to a console with second hand parts or bargain hunting.
New for new, prebuilt vs PC, you're right, but the PC is also so much more than a gaming platform, so you get what you pay for.
Overt time yes, in my opinio the pc is the best value, that is why is my main platform, but the consumer does not see that. It see the upfront value and goes for the cheap option.
Yah im talking about new vs new.
That's subjective as fuuuuck.
You could have just stuck with your original line and been less of an idiot, or just originally stated "console gaming is marginally cheaper" but this is just stupid.
How are you quantifying value? Do I get more value out of my PS4 that I haven't touched for years than my PC that I game on almost very day?
I remember my first desktop PC in 1994 was a 486 - not even high end at that time - and cost a whopping £1,500.00. And no, it didn't have a graphics card. They weren't a thing then.
PC pricing is pretty reasonable these days.
Same old arguments in this thread I've been reading for the last 20 years though.