One thing I red is that she succeeded in duping so many mostly because of connections. More savvy VC capital stayed clear of her, but she got a lot of novice investors.
Her product also resulted in major health scares for people in the test areas. I would have been rushed to the hospital immediately if I had used one of her machines due to my bodies trouble with processing potassium.
cmon, Trump has that top spotI suspect they will use her portrait on wikipedia whenever anyone tries to look that word up in the future.
eyes not creepy enough. I'd say the perfect role to play her is IvankaAlready well on its way. Jennifer Lawrence is starring as Holmes.
Don't give her ideaseyes not creepy enough. I'd say the perfect role to play her is Ivanka
as one would expect of a 2-hour docu for something thing like this. can only squeeze in so much.The documentaries (both the HBO and ABC ones) barely scratch the surface.
Read Carreyrou's book. It will blow your mind.
For fucks sake, they sold the product at Walgreens so that people could self-diagnose like this is MyHeritage. She made most of her revenue from this, claimed the results were valid, and then had to close that down in 2016 after misdiagnosing lots of people and being sued for it.You need to stop jumping into preach mode without understanding the subject. The same companies that she was competing against make the same blood testing machines for every country on earth regardless of private or public health insurance. This was nothing about cost.
The entire point was the tiny amount needed instead of the standard vial, and the many many tests that could be done off that one drop. Everything they talked about was the massive shift in preventative medicine the tech would enable, and how easy earlier diagnosis would be.
Lmao. The only time White defendants are guaranteed to get treated like everyone else is when they ripoff rich White people.Nah, she defrauded a bunch of rich white people. They'll probably throw the book at her.
Her dad was a VP at Enron, so grifting is likely literally in the blood.I suspect they will use her portrait on wikipedia whenever anyone tries to look that word up in the future.
I really don't understand. So it was all a hoax for all those years? At its height Theranos had 800 employees. What were they all doing? When it's not possible to conduct bloodtest with that tiny amount of blood? They kept doing it, but with inaccurate results? Does Holmes have mental problems or something? What did she think the endgame was supposed to look like?
Damn. That's crazy. This must be one of the biggest scam ever. Theranos at its peak was worth $10 billion. Absolutely insane.- The hoax to her shareholders was that the machine that she promised (a microfluidics wonderbox that could run every modern bloodtest) was scrapped early on, and any investor demo that showed the machine running flawlessly was faked. The hoax to patients was that the various cobbled together solutions they came up with gave results that were clearly less accurate than existing tests. This includes the tests they ran on competitor devices, since their standard method involved diluting blood samples to get them to work on said devices.
- Theranos had unusually high turnover for a biotech company. Anyone who said the technology goal was impossible or raised issue with how the company handled data/testing was either demoted, bullied, threatened with lawsuits, quit, or was outright fired. Everyone who left had to sign an NDA about their time working there. The various engineering teams were given the task of improving the technology, the software team was tasked with getting the UI stable and functional, the design teams were tasked with making it as "Apple" as possible on the outside, the various lab teams were given the task of running the tests on either the Theranos machines or the commercial machines, none of the teams were allowed to talk to one another or share data unsupervised.
- the microfluidics platform hit a wall early on, because the the nature of blood and coagulation presents all sorts of problems to a microfluidics design. They ended up settling on a makeshift micro-pipette ELISA assay (the Edison) that required diluting the blood substantially to get any data at all, a spectrophotometer (the minilab/4s) that was still in prototype stages when it was being pushed into clinics, and reverse engineered commercial machines. They claimed that results from all 3 (inaccurate) platforms were coming from the same device.
- Theranos encouraged employees to ignore failed QC tests and to throw out data outliers without any statistical rationale. They faked out state and federal investigators for some time by hiding parts of their facilities and most of their employees from testimonials.
- at the very least, she is a pathological liar obsessed with her image as Steve Jobs' successor. She lied about everything, big and small, to every person in her life. Based on the various public profiles I'd say she's an outright sociopath.
- her intent was actually to have a company that did what she promised. But she also intended to have billions of dollars, exclusive partnerships, a flashy crafted public image, and a good chunk of marketshare years before the technology caught up to her goals because she felt she deserved those things just for having a good idea. So the entire company was a MLM-type scam that regularly lied to investors and endangered patients in the brief time they had store presence. When she finally publicly revealed the Edison and miniLab (after the scandal broke), the scientific community's collective response was "this is nothing new, shame on you".
She's a grifter, pure and simple. IMO she'll get a slap on the wrist because she's, well, white and wealthy.
The evidence against her is iron-clad and I doubt she has much money anymore after all legal fees (which has plenty more to pay of) and presumably not having a job this entire time.
It's hilarious how many high-profile Republicans sat on her board. Schultz, Kissinger, and probably most egregiously Mattis, who went to bat for her tech as being useful to soldiers in the field in Afghanistan even though the tech was never deployed to troops in Afghanistan at all!One thing I red is that she succeeded in duping so many mostly because of connections. More savvy VC capital stayed clear of her, but she got a lot of novice investors.
Because you only need to convince the right person in each of those institutions. The book goes into detail about how plenty of people at those places saw through it but their bosses wouldn't listen.One thing I dont really get about the whole thing is how she had several big time medical professors/investors vouch for her and the product. I dont believe they were naive and I think if they somehow made some profit out of this whole debacle then they should be in jail as well.
It's hilarious how many high-profile Republicans sat on her board. Schultz, Kissinger, and probably most egregiously Mattis, who went to bat for her tech as being useful to soldiers in the field in Afghanistan even though the tech was never deployed to troops in Afghanistan at all!
For fucks sake, they sold the product at Walgreens so that people could self-diagnose like this is MyHeritage. She made most of her revenue from this, claimed the results were valid, and then had to close that down in 2016 after misdiagnosing lots of people and being sued for it.
Only then is when they turned to really trying to get into the proper medical testing industry, but first they made their pitch as a ridiculously affordable way of getting blood tests, as opposed to the traditional method, and you just have to read articles from the rags of the time to see it:
"Like many other medical procedures in the U.S., the cost of blood work can vary hugely from laboratory to laboratory, and having health insurance doesn't seem to make a difference. A 2013 ABC News investigation found that a woman was charged more than $4,000 for blood work at an in-network facility, while the cost for the same battery of tests at an independent lab cost just $260."
And Theranos was supposed to put an end to this.
So forgive me, but this is what allowed Theranos to fool investors and consumers for so long. They had this avenue of revenue, and they tried to exploit it for as long as they could because they thought they would face no scrutiny, until they were sued and had to stop, and only then they turned to trying to pitch it as a substitute for real blood tests, promising the 2.0 version of their technology would actually work.
Lol who couldn't see that coming.Sorry for the necro-bump but I didn't think this was worth a new thread on its own.
Looks like Holmes' lawyers want out. She hasn't paid them in a year.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...beth-holmes-this-time-with-her-own-attorneys/
Geez. She just can't stop grifting.Sorry for the necro-bump but I didn't think this was worth a new thread on its own.
Looks like Holmes' lawyers want out. She hasn't paid them in a year.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...beth-holmes-this-time-with-her-own-attorneys/
Refused to be paid in turtlenecks and mom jeansSorry for the necro-bump but I didn't think this was worth a new thread on its own.
Looks like Holmes' lawyers want out. She hasn't paid them in a year.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...beth-holmes-this-time-with-her-own-attorneys/
Sorry for the necro-bump but I didn't think this was worth a new thread on its own.
Looks like Holmes' lawyers want out. She hasn't paid them in a year.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...beth-holmes-this-time-with-her-own-attorneys/
Sorry for the necro-bump but I didn't think this was worth a new thread on its own.
Looks like Holmes' lawyers want out. She hasn't paid them in a year.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...beth-holmes-this-time-with-her-own-attorneys/
She grifted her own lawyer. LolSorry for the necro-bump but I didn't think this was worth a new thread on its own.
Looks like Holmes' lawyers want out. She hasn't paid them in a year.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...beth-holmes-this-time-with-her-own-attorneys/
I'd pay to see that.
That article title.Sorry for the necro-bump but I didn't think this was worth a new thread on its own.
Looks like Holmes' lawyers want out. She hasn't paid them in a year.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...beth-holmes-this-time-with-her-own-attorneys/
Hey I got it. Romi and Michelle high school reunion 2 .
Isn't she now with some hotel heir who's worth tons of money? They can't pay a lawyer?Sorry for the necro-bump but I didn't think this was worth a new thread on its own.
Looks like Holmes' lawyers want out. She hasn't paid them in a year.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...beth-holmes-this-time-with-her-own-attorneys/
There's a clip where she slips up for a second from like CNN or something out there. It was in one of the previous threads.Wish I could hear her real voice and her correct back to the deep fake voice.
If you haven't listened to a podcast called The Drop Out, do yourself a favor and listen right now. They haven't updated in months, but they discuss this whole debacle in detail. Fascinating tale.