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The Xbox Series X releases in two months, and we have yet to see any new games running on the actual console
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Personally I think most of the concern are from those who will be the hardest to sell to. Namely Playstation owners who rightfully so are not convinced Microsoft has the software to sway them over. Of course some of that concern gets overblown because like I say, they will be the hardest to sell to, but the reality is Microsoft has done a shit job convincing anyone (including current Xbox owners) what Series X can actually do with next gen games and how the hardware is able to offer incetives to upgrade and a lot of that stems from a lack of new software.
At the very least they should have the new Assassins Creed running on current hardware and show what Series S and X can do with it, not older titles. There is also a lack of new games Microsoft has confirmed to be launching with the new systems other than multiplat titles. It really is a mess of crossgen confusion, lack of 1st party and games running on the new hardware with new games.
This is how I feel. When Xbox Showcases the generational difference I will jump in. until them, I'll skip.
It's a shame that the Inside Series S video was released like that in between the X price announcement and the EA Play announcement. I almost skipped watching the video. I think had there been a proper Series S event, people would be even more excited about the Series S after seeing that video, as they clearly explain the box was built to be extremely straightforward for devs to downport 4K games to 1440p, and even show a bunch of game footage.
We have also seen every other aspect now, launch prices, complete specs, internal configurations.
I'm shocked there is not the same concern about Sony, shocked!
edit: forgot about backwards compatibility
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How is Spiderman not a heavy hitter? It is the best selling PS exclusive, 13 million as of August 2019.
We have seen Ratchet and Clank from Sony and Halo from Microsoft. We know more from Microsoft as a whole, than we know from Sony when it comes to hardware or pricing.
As to third party games, anything you see on the PS5, just know that there is room for improvement on the XSX.
This. Absolutely this. And yet we do not see the same volume of constant concern threads each and every freakin day or two.
I personally think it's a great example. It's the same engine as before but in native 4k/60 fps, something they haven't achieved alll generation.
Eh, the launch of both consoles is so light on games there's not much "gameplay" missing tbh. It's not like games are going to look markedly different from current PC stuff.
Benchmark and performance is something that's better measured and seen when these consoles are acutally out and in reviewers hands. A few pretty trailers don't give much information in that regards.
Especially since companies have become very creative with how they label their "in engine, totally caputred on real hardware near final" trailers.
Benchmark and performance is something that's better measured and seen when these consoles are acutally out and in reviewers hands. A few pretty trailers don't give much information in that regards.
Especially since companies have become very creative with how they label their "in engine, totally caputred on real hardware near final" trailers.
I loved the Cold War multiplayer reveal yesterday being "captured on PS5" and it was all cinematically touched up looks at the multiplayer maps. I watched the Digital Foundry PC Max Settings multiplayer video (with REAL gameplay) that dropped right after that and thought to myself "yeah that PS5 footage is BS."
Yeah, it's puzzling, seems clear enough that everything in the showcase was straight out of PS5.Except they have, have you been living under a rock?
It's a genuine concern that they haven't shown real Series X footage. They're expecting people to preorder and spend $499, yet we haven't even see how games run on it yet.
both consoles have to do a better job...or fucking anything to sell people on why they should buy them.
So far all it has been is "your current games will look a bit better and load faster...maybe". Which is nice but not exactly why I buy consoles yknow? I mean I am still on the old PS4 and Xbone ffs. Where the games at?
So far all it has been is "your current games will look a bit better and load faster...maybe". Which is nice but not exactly why I buy consoles yknow? I mean I am still on the old PS4 and Xbone ffs. Where the games at?
You know the PS5 specs, you saw some gameplay from that, the systems are pretty similar in tech, I think we have a general idea of how the gameplay will look. It's a non-issue to me, but I respect that some feel different.
Having a higher resolution and frame rate doesn't make the game "look" good. It still looks like its a generation behind. All that PC footage did it no favors, and I doubt it will look better at it's final. Assassin Creed has yet to look anything close to an Uncharted or GOW and I'm over it. They need to do better.
Yeah, Sony would never exagerate trailers ahead of a console release.
Not saying this will be the case with ratchet but there's really no point in being too sure of how these games will look (and especially perform) ahead of release.
When it's actual gameplay (like ratchet and clank) it's not BS. When it's a carefully cut trailer that shows "gameplay," it's marketing BS.
This is the part that blew my mind about everything that happened the last two days.
So many "great value!" comments for a thing that we haven't even seen in action. Shit is wild.
So many "great value!" comments for a thing that we haven't even seen in action. Shit is wild.
also 7 of the top ten games sold on PS are 1st party. 1st party is a core competency for sony.
still not marketing BS lol. marketing BS is like what happend with watch dogs, or showing All CG - pre-rendered Trailers.
Trailers that show cinematic cuts of gameplay, or in game real time rendered scenes is far more Representative of the final product.
They said RUNNING on a PS5. No, that isn't marketing BS. BS implies lying. If you can display how they lied, I'll give this claim more weight.
Otherwise, I'll stick to the topic. I'm an interested Xbox Series X buyer. I've yet to see a real next gen showcase running on it. So, I understand the concern.
No you don't understand, we're talking about new games, old ones don't count!
I don't get it either.
To me it is, because they are saying 'hey look at this, this is the real deal'. And then when the game comes out and you can see a bunch of corners they had to cut to get it actually run on the real hardware I have in my living room.
Im not saying they are lying. Im saying it doesnt mean anything. Just like not seeing a game saying 'Running on Xbox Hardware' means anything.
You are going to be incredibly disappointed when it comes to visuals this generation. It's about performance this gen - probably for the first time ever
what
Since Origin ass creed has been one of the most impressive graphical examples that exists
It literally has one of the best postprocessing pipelines in gaming
It means plenty. Adjustments to the art and production are inevitable, and unless a game looks completely different (which is rare and not something particularly from Sony) then it wasn't 'marketing BS'.
Moving away from the deflection, a lot of us want to see a true next gen showcase on the Series X. Not an unreasonable request.
I beg to differ. There has been better games imo. Assassin Creed just can't seem to get rid of its "jank".
I don't know, both Origins and Odyssey played great for me on my PS4 (Origins) and my One X (Odyssey). I think they are very impressive games, technically. I liked RDR2 more though, and think they are way too bloated and boring.
I mean, every game has its jank. It's like watching a live show and saying "cringe". Yeah - every one has cringe moments.
You don't understand why people would want to see next gen games running on next gen consoles? Did you forget the /s?
Halo was running on PC. Why didn't they show it on XSX? Sony has shown several games with gameplay snippets running on PS5, just with cinematic camera for trailer purposes. They've also shown Godfall and cinematics. This isn't about pricing or specs, but just about showing how the games look on the console.
You instantly jump to some comparison about how everyone can expect XSX games to just look a bit better than PS5, but this just isn't the point here. All I'm saying is that it's very strange that we haven't seen any gameplay, and there is definitely some reason for it.
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I would love if Assassin Creed looked an ounce like RDR2, then it would be a showcase, but its like once you get passed the cut scenes...its just ugly ish. I have Odyssey on PS4 Pro and my BF has it on his Xbox One X and on both , it just disappointed. Maybe its because its very arcadey in the way it plays but there something about it that still looks rough and it's likely to never change since they prioritize how big the world is rather than making every aspect of the game polished. idk...that's just how i see it.
Sure but some games just look and feel better despite that, and AC just hasn't hit it on the head yet. It doesn't look like a game like Control or even Hellblade. It's always a step or two behind in visuals and how it plays.
I recorded it with the screen recording function on the iPhone then sent it to the Giphy app to make a gif. It was much longer but I guess it got cut short by the app.
I really still can't believe they're worried about a major Electronics/PC maker (Microsoft) being able to have the system fully functioning and running without showing you a "gameplay" video. This is 100% not an issue and I don't know why people make this to be a big deal.
I wouldn't say it is just how much as been shown, but what has been shown. But even then, MS hasn't shown much at all running on XSX. All the stuff at the PS5 meeting aside from gtav was on PS5. and there was lots of gameplay snippets shown, just little extended gameplay. The only one in that regard of note we have seen is R&C, which looks pretty darn impressive. Now if Sony doesn't show much more actual gameplay at the next PS5 event, I think they will rightfully be open to a great deal of criticism.
I agree 100% with all of this.*
But in my original message I should have emphasized "concern"; I fully agree things should have been more transparent, I think it's fair MS are being called out for this, I agree the crossgen confusion doesn't help... I just don't understand how it's concerning (in the sense thread-worthy, or even bulletpoint-worthy in list wars between PS5 and Xbox).
But to each his own, that's perfectly fine. Maybe I'm just not easily concerned in general, I don't know.
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reading your message again, I still agree with you except the "MS has done a shit job *convincing* anyone what XSX can do".
They've done a shit job *showing* it, yes, but as far as I'm concerned I'm pretty much convinced. They explained it, extensively, they have the best hardware on paper, they have the track record (can't remember any recent claim/showing/bragging from MS that was eventually proven wrong, hardware/performance wise I mean). So I'm not worried. I'd say I'm the opposite of concerned haha
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