saw a copy at a used book store for a dollar, bought and installed it on my beater laptop for shits.
it was surprisingly pretty okay, lost like 3-5 hrs to it. if i didn't have zillions of other stuff to play i'd have ploughed through it all
I mean, I can't disagree - he just fulfilled my expectations, I guess. You're right about being closer to the game though - he was far less mirthless in the books if I remember rightly (like a bit of lovelorn teenager at times).
Haha yeahI never realized how similar this world was to Shrek until episode 2, then it just clicked
Yeah maybe 'serviceable' is the best description ha ha. I would have been looking for a strong and interesting performance from him to really hold the show together. I couldn't help compare him to the lead in the other Netflix show, Altered Carbon. They are similar roles but the guy from Altered Carbon just manages to be so much more compelling and charismatic.
I think that's fair. In his defense it's a weak teleplay, with odd scripting choices and a lot of elements that needed updating for 2019. Yen's story is hugely problematic for me and not the kind of female character I think we should be aiming for in 2019:defined primarily by beauty and motherhood, strips off every five minutes, kinda baby crazy and uses her powers to conjure bizarre non-con orgies
https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher/mods/topalltime/?adult=2 is good place to start, but TW 1 or 2 didn't see as extensive modding scene as 3.
It's kind of besides the point - I think we can aim for better female characters in 2019, especially when so many of these elements aren't even drawn from the original source material.
Imagine what the numbers would be if the show was actually good.
It's just the kind of world The Witcher takes place in. They've already 'updated' Geralt and his attitude toward women, which I think is more than enough. Also, people's defining traits can be how they look or their dream to have children. Not everyone needs to be strong, self-sufficient and perfectly content with how their live is. Also, not everyone needs to be a role model. But it isn't place nor time to discuss it.I think that's fair. In his defense it's a weak teleplay, with odd scripting choices and a lot of elements that needed updating for 2019. Yen's story is hugely problematic for me and not the kind of female character I think we should be aiming for in 2019:defined primarily by beauty and motherhood, strips off every five minutes, kinda baby crazy and uses her powers to conjure bizarre non-con orgies
Except for the orgy, everything else is drawn from the source material.
Unless, I'm remembering wrong (and I could be, it's been years), the wholewas either a massive elaboration on a general concept or completely invented. If I am remembering wrong though, this is definitely one of those things I'd have considered updating:hysterectomy sceneit reinforces the focus on motherhood and physical beauty (women have other facets and show puts very little emphasis on either Yen's skills as a sorcerer or her role as a court diplomat - at least up until Episode 5) but with a macabre overtone that a women must trade motherhood for beauty - what really brings it home is how unlikely it would be to see a male character forced to trade his gonads for a strong jawline.
was either a massive elaboration on a general concept or completely invented.
Unless, I'm remembering wrong (and I could be, it's been years), the wholewas either a massive elaboration on a general concept or completely invented. If I am remembering wrong though, this is definitely one of those things I'd have considered updating:hysterectomy sceneit reinforces the focus on motherhood and physical beauty (women have other facets and the show puts very little emphasis on either Yen's skills as a sorcerer or her role as a court diplomat - at least up until Episode 5) but with a macabre overtone that a women must trade motherhood for beauty - what really brings it home is how unlikely it would be to see a male character forced to trade his gonads for a strong jawline.
Also I love how episode 3 is literally a video game side quest with Witcher senses and all. It made me want to play the game again.
It was an (unnecessary) elaboration on the fact that sorcerers and witches are sterile in-universe, yeah. But book Yennefer is very much driven by the desire to reclaim her reproductive capabilities, and by the desire to have a family with Ciri (and, sort of, some of the time, with Geralt). That's very much in line with the source material.
Yeah, I believe the source material only alludes to the fact that mages are sterile; and it does not link that 'procedure' to the way they look since that's just "magic" that the mages themselves control.
(or maybe I forgot a lot of things).
But witchers are sterile too? so in theory, for him to have his incredible bad ass scarred body he has no chance to reproduce.
Never played The Witcher, but after watching show I am really tempted to. Story feels like it's a much better fit for a game than tv series.
In which case I think I'm comfortable standing by my point. The books are several decades old now and definitely show their age on reading. It might have been wiser in 2019 to steer away from Yen's desires for motherhood and focused more on her role as a powerful, influential figure (as the games did). The show's fixation on her undercarriage is a bit distracting.
And I saw an interesting character who just got something important taken away from her, who was driven by desire for change and power. There is absolutely nothing wrong or off-tone or outdated in her image and her motivations or aspirations.defined primarily by beauty and motherhood, strips off every five minutes, kinda baby crazy and uses her powers to conjure bizarre non-con orgies
Unless, I'm remembering wrong (and I could be, it's been years), the wholewas either a massive elaboration on a general concept or completely invented. If I am remembering wrong though, this is definitely one of those things I'd have considered updating:hysterectomy sceneit reinforces the focus on motherhood and physical beauty (women have other facets and the show puts very little emphasis on either Yen's skills as a sorcerer or her role as a court diplomat - at least up until Episode 5) but with a macabre overtone that a women must trade motherhood for beauty - what really brings it home is how unlikely it would be to see a male character forced to trade his gonads for a strong jawline.
DO IT.
In which case I think I'm comfortable standing by my point. The books are several decades old now and definitely show their age on reading. It might have been wiser in 2019 to steer away from Yen's desires for motherhood and focused more on her role as a powerful, influential figure (as the games did). The show's fixation on her undercarriage is a bit distracting.
If they ever show a scene where Geralt is laid out on a chair with a surgeon betwixt his legs, followed by the ritual burning of his bollocks, I'll reconsider, but I'm sure he'll never end up going through a baby-crazy phase.
In which case I think I'm comfortable standing by my point. The books are several decades old now and definitely show their age on reading. It might have been wiser in 2019 to steer away from Yen's desires for motherhood and focused more on her role as a powerful, influential figure (as the games did). The show's fixation on her undercarriage is a bit distracting.
If they ever show a scene where Geralt is laid out on a chair with a surgeon betwixt his legs, followed by the ritual burning of his bollocks, I'll reconsider, but I'm sure he'll never end up going through a baby-crazy phase.
The dichotomy in the books (and i think also in the show) is magical ability vs motherhood. Not beauty. Beauty for witcher sorceresses was always a means to an end. Though i guess the new background for yennefer muddies that a bit.
Geralt looses his fertility too, for similar reasons.
I do kind of get what you are getting at......but the show covers pretty damn well. This is a world where women are treated as Vessels....where kings desire sons.... she says Men take, take take from these women...she want's a choice.