It definitely popularized the whole "shared world/MMO-lite" concept.
Diablo 4, Fallout 76, The Division, Anthem, etc.
Also probably help popularized the whole 'game as service' concept.
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The Washington Post - The most influential games of the decade
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It definitely popularized the whole "shared world/MMO-lite" concept.
Diablo 4, Fallout 76, The Division, Anthem, etc.
Also probably help popularized the whole 'game as service' concept.
Pokémon Go was absolutely huge during a couple of months and has been raking in millions ever since.
It's probably the most successful AR game ever.
It will come. I bet we're going to see many open world games coming soon that get rid of map markers / objectives and make exploration leading. Ghost of Tsushima will be the first to follow that route. Even Odyssey had an "adventure mode" of sorts that i can only imagine was being tacked on due the popularity of BotW. It was a dreadfull implementation though.
I agree, the list need Puzzle and Dragon, which popularized the whole F2P gacha game.
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Seriously tho, outside Fromsoft game, which eastern game do you think influential enough to replace any title in the list ?
I think Fortnite's influence is less the BR genre (which few have managed to successfully ape) and more the approach to long-term engagement and monetisation. Battle Passes with unlockable tiers of content, Battle Bundles, season-based content drops, map refreshes... this has become the template for all big-name multiplayer games, regardless of genre.
List seems about right but I would argue that having Skyrim and Witcher 3 on the list is kinda reductive and of course BoTW deserves to be one the list.
Apart from Genshin Impact...
...I've not seen BotW influence many games. It might take more time, but it might also be a type of game that many other developers will rather shy away from, because it is such a big endeavour.
We haven't seen the effects of Breath of the Wild's influence yet because it's extremely hard to pull off what Nintendo pulled off with that game. While a lot of the elements were derivative from other Ubisoft open world games, systems like the physics based gameplay, environmental design, and non linear structure are very hard to replicate/steal. I especially expect physics system to not be copied much because it's really time consuming and complex to implement such a system into an open world environment. For most devs, it probably isn't worth it to try to implement these things mid cycle.
The two main massive regions each can probably contain some other open worlds entirely. Having multiple regions doesn't give you the benefit in designing a narrative that you'd get in a non open world game that one would disqualify it as a landmark achievement.
Out of curiosity what non-western games would you feel are more influential in gaming then these?
Only one that I don't think really works in Pokemon Go. In the article they establish it was very popular and mention one "clone" but then don't really make a case for how it's that influential just that it was popular and that it made one clone. Considering Candy Crush Saga is already on the list then the whole: "Mobile" angle doesn't work either.
Feels they mistook Popularity for Influence with that one.
AC games already had this mechanic long before Witcher III, though.
I'd say Gone Home was the big one as far as that type of narrative exploration experience goes. It feels now like it was so influential, I'm trying to recall one before it with the same level of breakthrough appeal...
Hi everyone, not sure if this has been mentioned, but we didn't choose the list based on release year. So the 2018/19 omissions weren't intentional, but as some folks have pointed out there hasn't been a long enough runway to tell what influence recent titles have had.
RDR1 didn't have dialogue options and micro interactions with the world
TW3 also influenced Nier Automata, Horizon too.
It was the first Open World without compromises of any kind, and said genre is now the king.
Well the design of quests on this game is miles away from other rpgs special Bethesda. At least last 2 ACs try something similar
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of the top of my head, there have been harry potter, minecraft and dragon quest mobile games influenced by pokemon go.
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Yeah you're probably right. I have no doubts it sent ripples through the mobile market.
Once again, without Cookie Clicker or Candy Box (both in 2013), this whole list feels like kind of a lie.
To just ignore idle/incremental/clicker games and the way they've influenced game design overall is either a blind spot in games journalism or just outright elitism with regards to primarily browser games. The only list that even caught anything was Polygon and they only recognized the cul-de-sac of Universal Paperclips.
A Dark Room maybe belongs in the conversation but it basically just advanced Candy Box ideas.
To just ignore idle/incremental/clicker games and the way they've influenced game design overall is either a blind spot in games journalism or just outright elitism with regards to primarily browser games. The only list that even caught anything was Polygon and they only recognized the cul-de-sac of Universal Paperclips.
A Dark Room maybe belongs in the conversation but it basically just advanced Candy Box ideas.
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Hate to be the annoying author guy who jumps into the thread, but to me there were a couple big points:
- In the wake of PoGo launching, every media and entertainment company ever thought AR would be one of the big next things. The hype was unbelievable. Influence doesn't necessarily have to be good, or take solid form, mind you.
- I think it really started putting gaming into the micromoments of people's days. Of course other mobile games had done this before, but I'd argue that PoGo's reach got it in front of more eyeballs than any prior (or subsequent) mobile title, and really expanded the idea of when/where people could play. I am not convinced this is a positive either. (Lots of folks have mentioned that the line "Pokémon Go is the 'I'm always listening to podcasts or music because I don't want to be alone with my own thoughts' of games." has resonated with them, which is flattering and also worries me).
I'm sorry, am I the only person amazed that not only did The Last of Us not get mentioned, there was no 2013 game at all?!
The game not only was a phenomenal story, but really pushed that a fleshed out narrative and true character development rivaling major motion pictures was not only desired in games, but could prove to be extremely successful and lucrative.
The game not only was a phenomenal story, but really pushed that a fleshed out narrative and true character development rivaling major motion pictures was not only desired in games, but could prove to be extremely successful and lucrative.
Very fair point. Someone else also pointed out it's impact on the mobile landscape and I was being close minded and only looking at its relation to gaming et al.
wait.. isn't PUBG way more influential then Fortnite whicj basically took its battle royal formula?
Lots of people confusing First with Influential.
Another game could have done 'something' first but it does not necessarily mean it was the game that created the tipping point for others wanting to duplicate that 'something'. Tetris 99 and several other battle royale games probably don't exist because of the idea presented in PUBG but due to the cultural/commercial success of the idea in Fortnite.
Another game could have done 'something' first but it does not necessarily mean it was the game that created the tipping point for others wanting to duplicate that 'something'. Tetris 99 and several other battle royale games probably don't exist because of the idea presented in PUBG but due to the cultural/commercial success of the idea in Fortnite.
I'd expect to see some assassins creed or ubisoft game on there. The whole open world checklist stuff kinda started there
Even back when Ubisoft announced a gap year for the franchise and Origins was just being rumored about, Witcher 3 was talked about as being a strong influence on the future of the franchise.
Now that Origins and Odyssey are both out, their open world design and quest structure are clearly influenced by the game.
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Totally agree with this list.
We wouldn't have Bloodborne without Dark Souls
Also this list is terrible and clearly made by someone who doesn't play videogames.
Could you offer anything productive to this thread? Looking at your post history, you have a problem with Fortnite being on the list. The battlepass mechanic alone should quiet that issue🙄
Yep, I'd agree with that list.
Remember, we're talking influence, not quality. You can hate Destiny all you want, but it's MTX elements and shooter/looter mechanics basically changed the AAA landscape. Fornite is the same with FTP battle-royale. On the other hand, BOTW is a great game, but it hasn't influenced really anything as of yet.
Remember, we're talking influence, not quality. You can hate Destiny all you want, but it's MTX elements and shooter/looter mechanics basically changed the AAA landscape. Fornite is the same with FTP battle-royale. On the other hand, BOTW is a great game, but it hasn't influenced really anything as of yet.
Bloodborne getting robbed, witcher 3 getting shat.
It's the way of things
Perfectly balanced as all things should be
In terms of game design, assassin's creed was heavily influenced by it for origins. I have a hard time coming up with other games
I don't know if this is a meme that went over my head but if not that's pretty wild. So many games modern games like God of War are clearly heavily influenced by tlou.
GG literally hired the lead quest designer that worked on TW3.
That's just a PlayStation game, they're all just naturally like that, dog.
Minecraft deserves to be there, and Amnesia definitely started the jump-scare trend in new horror games. I don't know if that's good or bad, lol.