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The Verge: Samsung galaxy fold screens breaking after a day of use for users
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Nah, apple is good at creating negative trends just because it maximizes their profit margins.
I like giving credit where credit is due, they created the current form factor and their SOC design has changed mobile tech significantly. Also their notch is ugly, but their the only manufacturer as far as I've seen that has been able to eliminate the smartphone chin. There's good there, but because they killed the headphone jack and created the notch people forget the positives.
To no one's surprise you are attacking anyone saying anything anti apple.
Why are you here?
It's a Samsung thread, reveling in the competition having a black eye?
Agred on the above. There's a bit of an apocalyptic undertone to some of the reviews and comments about the Fold, but we really don't know how durable the device is yet when used with reasonable care. Guess we'll see soon enough.
Don't forget to wear your 3D glasses while you're at it.
But yeah. I've reflected about the concept for a bit now. It's cool per se but even provided all the current limitations will be overcome (plastic screen 🤮, crease, weird phone mode, thickness, longevity, design, software...), the mini tablet mode that's supposed to be the selling point will always be weird. For lack of better reference, let's take any modern flagship phone and imagine we could fold it out to twice its size without any compromise. The aspect ratio will always suck for video unless the phone mode aspect ratio moves in a completely different direction. The size won't be large enough to replace a dedicated tablet or get more complex stuff done (I'd even argue the 12,9" iPad form factor is the minimum for working comfortably with documents etc side-by-side). That leaves us with the mere premise of more screen estate without any considerable functional gain. Always nice, but not exactly super exciting - just like slim bezel phones. But perhaps my ideas are just restricted by how I use my current tech setup 🤷♂️
Eh, they've never released a product this faulty, and let's not forge the exploding phone.
And some of us miss the smaller phones honestly and are ticked off at the big phone trend.
https://www.gizchina.com/2019/04/21/samsung-galaxy-fold-pre-sale-temporarily-canceled/
Samsung Galaxy Fold pre-sale temporarily cancelled
https://m.mydrivers.com/newsview/623861.html
Rumor that the sales training for this phone is being halted
Samsung Galaxy Fold pre-sale temporarily cancelled
https://m.mydrivers.com/newsview/623861.html
Rumor that the sales training for this phone is being halted
Looks like it's isolated to China right now.
That second link though. I would never be able to get past that crease in the middle of the screen. It's so noticeable in that photo.
Curious to see one of these in person soon.
Edit - NVM. Translated the article and it seems it may affect NA. Hmm.
Didn't samsung's website have pre-orders up preiviously? It just has sign up for notifications now.
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-fold/
I dunno about US, however I was on the Fold site for Germany right after this thread was created in an attempt to source the local price of it but it was also only for sign up (with no pricing info).
From what I've read you were able to preorder from them only if you signed up to get up to date info on the device.
For those who did they were to begin sending out preorder invites a week ago or so.
Whats alarming is this is whats happened to phones that fold inside.
Phones that fold so the screen is on the outside are obviously going to be even worse in terms of faults.
Yeah - it makes me wonder how the Huawei foldable phone will be. That one looked more impressive than Samsung's but now I'm wondering if it will suffer from the same issues.
They did preorders Sunday April 14th for those who registered on Friday April 12th.
AT&T already did theirs online, Tmobile is on the 25th.
That news seems to be for China.
The closest thing to this they've done was bendgate, which was very bad but still not even in the same ballpark as something this fucked
The person he's quoting has this weird hate boner for Apple that goes way beyond the norm for even ERA. Check the post history. Particularly the thread about Apple Music overtaking Spotify in US subscribers.
If this is true, it would appear Samsung's investigations into the causes of the breakages revealed something more than just user error.
That or they figured out that sticking a plastic sheet on top of the plastic screen isn't the best way to prevent a product from melting down.
I only watched the Casey Neistat video, and while his wasn't broken, he admitted and showed that the screen has a visible bulge/crease along the hinge. That's going to get worse over time and is a deal-breaker for me, at least at an expensive price point. I don't mind the larger size of my XS Max; big, but pocketable even if it takes up the whole pocket. An object that isn't as wide, but twice as thick is actually less manageable. I don't really consume media regularly on my phone, the puzzle games I typically play don't benefit from more screen, I prefer e-ink for reading, I don't like writing long-form with my thumbs. I guess I'm just not a target audience for this. I could more easily embrace the idea of smaller phones but with all this new camera tech.
It's rational. Exterior plastic screens are gonna be a major point of concern if we're seeing a significantly more sheltered internal screen suffer these sorts of issues, unless Huawei engineering and materials science is just light-years ahead of Samsung.
To be fair, Apple had leaks showing their notch well before the essential phone was announced.
I watched only one of his videos and refuse to watch any more.
How much can you possibly milk a phone?
I wish they had got this right out of the gate, but at the same time I guess someone has to have that first bugged product. I really want foldable phones, it just seems logical given how much screen size is becoming both unwieldy in terms of size but practical in terms of usage. Folding on the inside also seems way more practical in the long term.
Was it? The Essential phone was shown 4 months before the iPhone x was even announced on September 17, 2017. The Essential phone was shown and announced in May of 2017 and released in August 2017, before we ever laid eyes on the X.
LG technically had the first notch phone in 2015 using a second screen on top to display icons and the camera.
Anywho, it's pretty much possible for apple to be first to market anymore. With the Chinese manufacturers catching up l, they will always be first to market on pretty much every tech, especially with the sheer volume of phone models and iterations they pump out. Apple will focus on refinement vs innovation
We speculated that this was going to happen, too, fwiw.
People were freaking out about folding screens, excitedly saying it was the future coming today, and I was like IT'S PLASTIC Y'ALL.
What's the over under on whether this thing even makes it to market? I think they should scrap it and focus on gen 2. Maybe release this as a Dev device. For free.
Yep, when I demoed the Fold at the store it very much felt like the start of the next generation of phones
Wouldn't folding on the outside increase the radius of the bend, thereby reducing a kink failure mode possibility? Folding on the outside potentially could be safer.
We have no evidence that Huawei will release an underbaked product not ready for prime time, like Samsung seems to be doing. That's an unusual thing for any company to do. Among other things, maybe they don't include a load bearing film protector on their display.
There's been other plastic phones and screens in the past. That won't be the issue in itself.
Safer for what? Scratches? Maybe not. That doesn't seem to be the problem here though. I can post hundreds of phones and other devices with a plastic screen on the outside and they didn't face any issues other than being more prone to scratching.
My Nokia 5800 got a bit scuffy. Also, other plastic screens are harder and less vulnerable to damage because they don't need to be soft and flexible.
As for Huawei, we'll see how this does with debris ingress:
For the internals that have to bend 180 degrees, making that bend over a greater radius (outside fold) than a lesser radius (inside fold) intuitively seems safer. I'm not super familiar with the tech in particular here, but determining the radius at which something kinks is important when designing it to not fail in use. So, I think outside folding would be less prone to that particular failure.
Soft plastic screens just don't seem practical for a daily use phone. The Verge video review shows this:
And this was their replacement phone after the first one broke, and got those dings after a couple of days.
I can't imagine how bad a phone with the folding screen on the outside is going to look after a month.
And this was their replacement phone after the first one broke, and got those dings after a couple of days.
I can't imagine how bad a phone with the folding screen on the outside is going to look after a month.
This shows a key misunderstanding regarding the nature of foldable plastics. They are, by their nature, significantly softer and therefore far more susceptible to not only scratches and scuffs but also permanent dents.
In the case of both the fold and the mate x concept the screen is bending in same manner. The only difference is the direction the screen faces when folded. Perhaps bent is better since these screens do not fold, they bend. Test both with a piece of paper.
that much video views. He's making bank. He knows he'll get the clicks.
Their realness is determined by how much love they give my corporation of choice's products.
Yes and no. Same manner, but the Samsung is like folding a paper to the point it can potentially crease (or kink)...become permanently deformed or cause damage. The Mate X bend is over a much greater radius.
Think about bending a piece of paper 180 degrees on itself then closing it in a book vs bending that piece of paper around the spine of a book. Which one is going to crease/kink/become damaged first?
Again this is just intuitively thinking about it, I'm no expert in this tech. But it seems like the Samsung use is a far worse case/requires way more durability out of what is still very novel tech.
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How would you feel about a folding phone that just had two identical screens with a well made join and the thinnest possible bezel?
Did he?YouTube has pretty strict rules about disclosing advertisers. No worries, he makes a ton of drivel for clicks without any corporation paying him to do so.
This is the dude who said he was going to give away a literal truck load of iPhones.
For those who forgot or never knew.
Thanks, but flexible plastic covers have also been widely used in electronics, namely in devices with capacitive touchscreens. And dents sometimes happened and that, while annoying, wasn't a huge deal, as the devices stayed functional. The problem here is how it seems to affect the remaining layers in the display structure. Again, there is no reason to believe Huawei isn't actually testing its product and making sure it endures daily usage, instead of rushing it to market like Samsung apparently did.
The fold itself is less challenging, but it also exposes the (apparently) delicate screen itself to all kinds of other abuse.
Also if the Mate X is anything to go by, the crease caused by stretching the plastic screen around a wide radius bend is visibly much wider than the Folds crease. It looks almost an inch wide in pictures.
It's a more uneven crease too., with bumps in random places, wider in some places and narrower in others.
I think people would much rather a crease than a bulge.