Ah my bad. So this really is in response to the Sony news. Shrewd.
Ah my bad. So this really is in response to the Sony news. Shrewd.
Ah my bad. So this really is in response to the Sony news. Shrewd.
Let me have my baseless assumptions okayTom Warren, the writer of the article, asked them about Xbox One production. They didn't release this information voluntarily or send out a press release.
It limped pass Super Nintendo a while back (a shy over 49 million) if the NPD threads are anything to go by.
Quite likely 51 million in all, and a 40% decline overall compared to the Xbox 360 (approximately 84-85 million).
51M is a number that was cited in the QG article, and given that Xbox executives were interviewed for the article, it's likely the official number provided by MS.
Maybe. I've never seen Zhuge's numbers disputed as he seems a pretty reputable source himself.51M is a number that was cited in the QG article, and given that Xbox executives were interviewed for the article, it's likely the official number provided by MS.
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I think at this point it's safe to say they are moving on before Sony. Discontinued their last-gen hardware over a year ago, and AFAIK there are no more crossgen XGS titles coming.For all the pre-launch talk, it's funny to think that Microsoft could be ending their cross-gen period before Sony.
Except that you can play all of last gen's stuff on the new (and generations before that to varying extents), so not really. :)
Makes tons of sense.
They were still manufacturing Xbox One S but it's RRP was exactly the same as the Series S.
You'd have been mad to buy a One S over a Series S unless you were really married to the idea of discs, to the point that you'd play nine year old hardware (that was kinda disappointing power-wise nine years ago) over a next gen console for the same money.
Seems like they've got their Series S supply in hand. No need to have the Xbox One out there still.
Does this really need to become console warrior fodder immediately? Both companies are doing the right things here. There's no Series S model of PS5 so the PS4 makes perfect sense. There is a Series S Xbox at a good price point so discontinuing Xbox One hardware also makes sense.
It's even silly as console war fodder.Does this really need to become console warrior fodder immediately? Both companies are doing the right things here. There's no Series S model of PS5 so the PS4 makes perfect sense. There is a Series S Xbox at a good price point so discontinuing Xbox One hardware also makes sense.
I would have maybe a slight worry about next gen titles being held back but from what I've seen so far this generation it is not a real issue.
Sony supporting the manufacture of its consoles for longer than Microsoft, does not exactly turn any tables.Meanwhile Sony "We believe in generations" are keeping PS4 going for longer cause of the chip shortage. Not to say which approach will turn out to be the better one I just think it's very funny at how the tables have turned.
They were asked the question and respondedMakes perfect sense. Just a bit silly they're confirming it more than one year later.
"To focus on production of Xbox Series X / S, we stopped production for all Xbox One consoles by the end of 2020," says Cindy Walker, senior director of Xbox console product marketing, in a statement to The Verge.
It's even silly as console war fodder.
Company X: "we're making more previous-gen hardware"
Company Y: "we stopped making any previous-gen hardware"
Random posters: "Amazing strategic response to Company X on the part of company Y!"
Ok...how?
It has nothing to do with market leadership. It has to do with supply focus and logistics. You bet your ass Sony would cut PS4 production if there were enough PS5s to meet demand. They are doing a smart thing from a business standpoint and nothing more.Makes sense. The One wasn't the market leader and having the Series S gives them a low cost option anyhow.
It's even worse then that, since this only came out because they were directly asked, instead of being something they decided to announce:
Company X: "we're making more previous-gen hardware"
Reporter: "hey company Y, are YOU still making previous gen consoles?"
Company Y: "we stopped making any previous-gen hardware *over a year ago*"
Literally this.It has nothing to do with market leadership. It has to do with supply focus and logistics. You bet your ass Sony would cut PS4 production if there were enough PS5s to meet demand. They are doing a smart thing from a business standpoint and nothing more.
It did, at the end of 2020. They just didn't really announce it. Tom asked them, and they confirmed.
what PS4 news yesterday?It is a reponse to Tom who presumably got in touch asking about the status of Xbox One consoles after the PS4 news yesterday so they could write a follow-up article.
"To focus on production of Xbox Series X / S, we stopped production for all Xbox One consoles by the end of 2020," says Cindy Walker, senior director of Xbox console product marketing, in a statement to The Verge.
I don't get this, the ps4 was never going to be discontinued immediately after the ps5 came out.Meanwhile Sony "We believe in generations" are keeping PS4 going for longer cause of the chip shortage. Not to say which approach will turn out to be the better one I just think it's very funny at how the tables have turned.
I don't get this, the ps4 was never going to be discontinued immediately after the ps5 came out.
Thanks..... missed that.Sony Is Dealing With PlayStation 5 Shortage by Making More PS4s
Sony Group Corp. will continue producing PlayStation 4 consoles throughout 2022 as it navigates disruptions to the global supply chain that have limited output of its pricier PlayStation 5.www.bloomberg.com
Sony are continuing to make PS4s this year for retail. They are continuing to have no real retail presence for the PS5 because they're all instantly gone so makes sense to have something on shelves at stores.
So Tom asked Xbox if they were still manufacturing Xbox One's and they confirmed that they stopped about a year ago. Presumably, less of a need for them because Series S supply is alright.
From what I understood, thanks to Covid they actually did do better.Makes sense. I wonder what the final sale count is? 50-60M?
W/o Covid I think Xbox and PS4 could've done even better.
PS4 for sure would have crossed 120M without Covid and parts shortage. Xbox one 60M for sure maybe more.
That would be a complete departure from pretty much every system they have released before and frankly make no sense unless it somehow impacted their ability to make ps5s.Apparently it was.
"While Sony never officially announced when it would stop making the PS4, it had previously planned to discontinue assembly at the end of 2021, they said, asking not to be named as the plans are not public."
That would be a complete departure from pretty much every system they have released before and frankly make no sense unless it somehow impacted their ability to make ps5s.
The ability to reduce the price of the PS4 was constrained. MSRP today for PS4 Slim is 299, PS4 Pro at 349 and PS5D at 399 isnt a great spread.That would be a complete departure from pretty much every system they have released before and frankly make no sense unless it somehow impacted their ability to make ps5s.
51M is a number that was cited in the QG article, and given that Xbox executives were interviewed for the article, it's likely the official number provided by MS.
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Well yeah but PS4 stock for example was zero during March - Late summer 2020 when TLOU2 and GoT came out. If they had been able to make more I imagine they could've sold at least 2-5M more than they did during that window. But who knowsThanks..... missed that.
From what I understood, thanks to Covid they actually did do better.
It's the current-gen consoles that got wrecked.
Yh you are right...forgot how bad the PS4 stock situation was then. Could only recall software sales being up.Well yeah but PS4 stock for example was zero during March - Late summer 2020 when TLOU2 and GoT came out. If they had been able to make more I imagine they could've sold at least 2-5M more than they did during that window. But who knows