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The Verge: Here is every game coming to XSX & PS5 at launch.
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If your save from PS4 transfers and works on the PS5 version of the game, it hasn't been enhanced for PS5.
You were so "concerned" you had to let us all know?
Both consoles have amazing games.
Hard to believe someone would actually post this.
Forza and Gears will get proper ports and be optimized for the new consoles. GoT and Days Gone are getting patches for BC mode. I think unlocking the framerate and that's it.
You wanna go there? Ok let's go there both of you. On Xbox One there are over 4000 games. All of those get enhancements via BC like auto HDR. So by your logic Xbox Series X will have a launch lineup of 4000 enhanced games?
I disagree with the logic btw and there is clear cut distinction between a BC and a native running game. It's great Days Gone and co did get a patch to run at 60FPS in BC, but the work involved is significantly less than doing a port with various upgrades (be it graphics, latency, framerate, ...).
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Okay, so you don't know for sure. Got it. And even if what you're saying is true, you and everyone else making this argument are just being pedantic. Ultimately they're all old games getting facelifts of varying degrees which is awesome. List wars, man. Fucking hell.
I thought so as well until I went to buy it for my son and found out I couldn't just by the Xbox One version like every other cross gen game he plays. You either buy both standard editions, or you by the 'Mamba Forever' edition for $120 to get both. There are apparently some next gen specific modes as well, but I don't follow the game that much so I'm not sure which.
Sure if you want to constantly highlight how the 2% (or probably lower) can play at higher frame rates/higher settings. I was merely talking accessibility to getting most of the games.
as many have said there are already a lot of cases similar to GoT and DG on that list
the point is not that GoT and DG should be added, the point is that any upgrade of old titles should be removed from there
It does.
- Games ported with a Xbox/PS5 devkits -> on the list.
- Games using BC -> not on the list
One example I saw was SoT and that's it. All the other examples are false, because the enhancements in FH4, Gears, ... go beyond what Days Gone for instance is getting.
Look, I think it's perfectly fine to disagree with verge line/distinction, but calling them fanboys over it is silly. They literally listed games done with new devkits (ports) and decided not to list games getting any form of enhancements via BC.
Gemüsepizza suggested to list all games with enhancements. Then I'd say good luck listing about 4000 Xbox games, because there are auto enhancements via BC applied to all games like HDR, loading and I think it was texture filtering.
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Im not sure about Forza Horizon 4, but Gears 5 is actually receiving a full next gen version like other cross gen games
Days Gone and Ghost of Tsushima are just receiving patches upgrading resolution/ framerate
Those games are just running in BC mode with boost. That's separate from a PS5 patch.
I still think the delays of Deathloop and Destruction All Stars are a big hit to the launch lineup, these two would have been completely new games instead of a spin off like Miles Morales or a remake like Demon´s Souls.
Do you happen to know if Days Gone will need to be on the internal SSD to take advantage of the enhancements, or will it still be enhanced running off an external SSD?
I think Ori is a full next gen version, but I'm also not sure about Sea of Thieves
I've mostly been paying attention to Gears 5 and Days Gone because they are both at the top of my backlog
Yep that's the current information and they don't do more than unlocking the framerate. Which some games like Tomb Raider already had modes for. Nobody complains about Tomb Raider not being on the PS and Xbox list. Why?
I don't play SoT and haven't followed anything. But Ori got ported and the devs had to go in and optimized the hell out of the game to achieve 6K and 120FPS. Unlocking the framerate is easy and usually requires a few lines of code. Thus it's not comparable to a ported game, which requires weeks/months of dev work.
Given what we know, Days Gone will run fine from a regular HDD as that is what PS4 games run from.
No doubt it will load faster on the SSD.
The only next-gen launch game between two systems is Demons Souls.
Thank god for backwards compatibility.
Thank god for backwards compatibility.
Will those next gen versions of gears 5 and forza get new physical boxes? This is important for me as a collector.
What a pointless list, both have good BC 'next-gen' patch or not
Also your logic not taking into account that most of Sony first party games will probably take advantage of the dualsense which is as next-gen as you can get.
Funny, so if GOT patch also hit 4k only then should it be on the list?
Also your logic not taking into account that most of Sony first party games will probably take advantage of the dualsense which is as next-gen as you can get.
This list is.....unique to the say the least. I do find their inclusion of older Xbox titles puzzling considering they are in the same boat as older PS titles, yet the Verge decided not to include them. It might be confusing to consumers who see all of the tweets from Ps Studios about upgrades and such for their older games, but don't see them on the list. Is anyone making a comprehensive next gen list on Era?
Agree. They shouln't be on the list too. Demon's Souls is a complete remaster of PS3 game, so that might be a little different.
So.. you dismiss the fact they patch Days gone to do 4K 60fps, but then try and sell Ori took blood sweat and tears for similar upgrades as being different, because???
Funny cause nobody took anything away from what Xbox games has done for their games, yet you went this hard. Why? Any game that was patched to take advantage of its next gen counterpart should be included on this (weird) list.
"probably". What Sony has announced is that Days Gone runs at up to 60FPS at dynamic 4K. End of story and that's what verge decided to go with. They made their list clearly with the differentiator that all games on the list must be developed on the new devkits, hence getting ports.
Days Gone and you could list thousands of other games on both consoles with enhancements due to BC aren't ports. That's their distinction and as I said you don't need to agree with it. To each their own and all I am saying is calling them fanboys is silly.
What are you talking about?
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I don't dismiss Days Gone. It's great developers did go in and made the changes so the game in BC runs better due to unlocked framerate. But verge clear distinction is games ported made the list and all others didn't. Including games that already had a 60FPS mode like Tomb Raider and benefit from the sheer power of the new consoles in BC.
Ori isn't a game brute forcing it's way to their target framerate. It got ported to the new consoles in order to run 6K or 120FPS. Days Gone didn't get ported. It got the framerate unlocked so the PS5 can brute force it to "up to 60FPS" in BC mode. I am sure if they would've ported DG than much more would've been possible with the game on PS5.
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Yeah Its a lot better than most prior launches
Im just still a little worried about a lack of next gen only games through 2021
Also, I'm legitimately shocked that Fortnite seems to be the only one of the big F2P/ battle royale games releasing for next gen
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I am worried about this aswell with corona and all that. But Sony seems to beaten Covid and looks to have a stellar year. Probably the best launch year ever, if nothing gets delayed. Massive achievement and I am looking forward to many great games :)
Yes you do. The DG patch was 25gb big. You assume that it just unlocks frame-rate, but the size of that patch suggests otherwise. Lets be honest, we don't know (yet). But you want assume it because it fits the narrative you want.
The irony with this argument is that games with a forward thinking 60FPS mode aren't included then. Why in your opinion?
Sekiro and Days Gone for example use the same approach as far as we know. Let the consoles in BC mode go nuts and achieve up to 60FPS.
What's the difference there? One already has a 60FPS mode and the other got it via a patch? Not seeing the difference between BC games and ports is interesting to say the least.
If it got a port, then it should be on the list. Simple as that.
If I would do a list, then I would've done the sections differently than verge anyway. You would be surprised, if you really think I have a narrative lol.
- Next gen
- Cross gen
- upgraded/patched games
- Unlocked games for good measure (Tomb Raider)
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Launch games are games that launch with a new platform. If the software was released on a previous platform, then it is not a launch game. These Series X games have substantial updates and are excellent examples of post release support, but why are they moving the goalposts with such a specific standard? No other gen had games like this so they deserve to be a new category, greater than BC but different from launch games.
Who's says that tomb raider shouldn't be in the list lol!? It should be in a list, but probably not this list. We're talking about games that were patched to take advantage of next gen. Didn't Sekiro just get patched? We don't know what other features may be present in those games now; if they'll have Dualsense features or what. Just as much work can be put in through patches over time as what was done with Ori. Ori is the same game with higher res and Fr. Yet One is called a port (as you say) and the other is not, ok cool. But all I see is the same difference.
Its a pointless list.
And this is supposed to be important because??
Power isn't the only next-gen defining feature.
There's activities, loading improvement, dualsense. Features Sony have confirmed to be coming to some BC games.
devs put in time to implement those, the logic of only '4k60fps' and even those don't count but only when 'optimized' is just laughable.
You do realize that Gears 5 is not locked to 60fps all of the time? It has dips... If you watch the DF video from yesterday testing Gears 5 you would have seen that rather than post "up to 60fps" FUD.
Nonetheless, the list is weird and has some inconsistencies that others have pointed out. I think the weirdest is not including NBA 2K21 on the list, which seems like a massive leap between last-gen and next-gen SKUs.
Ori should not be in that list either as it is also only getting an FPS and resolution bump.
PS5 one of the best line up ever More so if you look at first year its up they with Switch first year if they hit they may pass it
Didn't realise that wasn't until next year. Hope the PS5 version doesn't fall through the cracks.
"Ported", don't both Xbox and PS5 use the same SDK's (Directx vs GNM(X)) that were present on current gen consoles? Both MS and Sony are doing enhancements that otherwise are not possible on current gen consoles, what "dev kit" they run it through is irrelevant. The concept of generations or dev kits is merely an iteration now, not too dissimilar to PC. Dev kits for all intents and purposes provide a target spec, Forza Horizon isn't implementing platform specific features like ray tracing, it's bumping up frame rate and things like shadow detail, literal tweaking of sliders.