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The Verge: Google Stadia’s free tier is coming sometime over the next few months
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then Stadia is for people who haven't been pc gaming to build up a large collection
What are you even saying?
How about folks that own the games and would rather play them enhanced.
considering how many people don't bother buying a dedicated console till it gets $200 or under...or not at all...I'd say a lot.
what's the cheapest gaming machine available right now that can play games at full 1080p/60fps high settings?
I expect in most cases difference between the tiers will be due to bitrate more than resolution.
It's hardly alive in 2020. I really don't think this free option is going to do much, the people who are curious about the service will try it out but there's not much they can do to keep any sort of momentum. We'll know more about the next gen consoles in a few months time.
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Are you suggesting that people should expect a free platform for playing games should also provide free games for that platform? I would hope not too many people are that stupid.
Should, no of course not lol. Would/will though? Yeah there will definitely be a bunch. Spending any time in retail, or hell just around the interwebs in general will tell you that tbh. If it's marketed as a "free" gaming service but you actually have to pay to play anything then there'll definitely be some sore people belabouring the point. Hence why I'd say they're better veering away from selling/phrasing it too hard that way from the outset.
Never underestimate the stupidity that exists in abundance amongst the consuming public.
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If Stadia is going to have a rough 2020, especially due to the new Xbox and PS5 launching, it's going to have an even worse 2021.
The main use case I've seen is people who want to play those games but can't/won't invest in local hardware, or don't want to deal with the patching/downloading aspect. How big of a market that is remains to be seen.
I'm in a similar position where I'd be willing to double dip but only if I could have my saves. Cross-save is something I hope becomes more ubiquitous, otherwise I'll probably go with something like XCloud to share across Xbox.
current systems are at $200 or under
The pro models are even down to $300
They also have people to play multiplayer games with
Without the free tier, when this thing goes from 200-300K (just a guesstimate, obviously) Pro subscribers to <20K in a few weeks (which would actually be a high conversation rate so it'll probably be even lower than that), I wonder what'll happen.
I completely forget about Stadia's existence until I see it mentioned in threads here. Over and over again. It's got such little brand power and basically zero competitive advantages that I can't even be bothered to commit it to memory.
You can always play your purchased games, but only at the streaming quality tier your current sub allows for.
Similarly to PS+ and Xbox Live Gold, you can't play your "free" subscription games without a paid sub, but they're still attached to your account if you resubscribe.
It's no different than having to buy PS4 specific games for a PS4. The advantage to Stadia here is that you don't have to buy any special hardware, which is the whole point. Google has done a horrific job getting that message across though, and a lot of people still think Stadia is meant to to be some sort of subscription service.
Does Google have any more exclusive games announced?
Maybe they're waiting for those before any Stadia platform announcements... They had bought like 4 studios right?
And what about f2p games on the free tier?
Maybe they're waiting for those before any Stadia platform announcements... They had bought like 4 studios right?
And what about f2p games on the free tier?
I think the question was more in the vein of, given that there's no "free" tier yet available to public, will people with lapsed subs be able to access their purchased things, despite not being subscribed.
Which i believe we have not had a case example because this is a scenario that will only be known once the first pro sub expires.
Selling the only way to experience Stadia through a $130 USD buy in when the entire selling point is the experience is still the most boneheaded move. Judging by their radio silence and response they finally gave to game releases, they must have really thought Stadia would be an instant hit that could be carried by momentum.
Just use GeForce now, at least Nvidia bothered to test their services before they launched it. Let stadia and it's terrible business model die.
Oh, I follow! It does seem like there's going to be a slight gap there, huh? Hopefully it's not too long.
free tier + Destiny 2's F2P version is the jolt this service needs. if they can get that part right, without making free users wait for server queues, or without requiring F2P Destiny 2 players to spend a penny to log in, they might be able to claw their way back. "Oh, this runs smoothly? Cool. That's proof that I can buy a game or two and stick with Stadia."
in the meantime, anybody left in the Founders pool waiting for new co-op/versus players for that long... woof.
in the meantime, anybody left in the Founders pool waiting for new co-op/versus players for that long... woof.
I still wish Google would have a definitive answer to the free to play question. I remember legitimately wondering around launch if F2P games were going to be available on the service, but a lot of answers seemed to be vague/dance around it. I think the best way to get people to try the service and believe in the service is via F2P games that allow people a foot in the door and try it for themselves.
Destiny 2 new light should definitely be a start but I also think they should work toward getting other games on the service too. Fortnite, Warframe, would be massive gets if they can actually get them.
Those very same people can pay way less money for Steam versions and have thousands of more titles to choose from for their collection.
They'd also have other people to play with.
that's like asking why more people aren't buying CD players and blu Ray players. hey you can get one under $200!
This is kind of the wrong place to try and convince people about a service to circumvent buying dedicated hardware....this place is full of people who buy tvs for gaming and buy gaming hardware every few years (or more) and buy 5+ games a year.
You are telling someone who doesn't even own a tv to go out and buy a ps4 pro? lol
Stadia games can be bought over youtube. Most people today who use YouTube aren't using it on a tv...how easy it to play your ps4 pro away from the tv?
that $200 can buy 3-4 games instead of wasting it on the hardware. Most console gamers only buy 1-2 games a year on average. We are talking about people who only want to play a couple of games and you are saying they should invest in a PlayStation
the idea behind Stadia, and others like it, is to grow the pc/console gaming market. To reach those people who rarely spend a bunch of money on dedicated hardware (or never). Yes, hopefully to convince current core console gamers to dabble in the other ecosystem, but they aren't desperately trying for that.
there is absolute value in offering a way for people to videogame without having to buy hardware. Without even having to have a tv.
Not sure why people are so quick to ridicule or dismiss this concept
I just think almost every other streaming option is better for those people
I would imagine community numbers will increase when you have the free version available *shrugs*
I also imagine that anyone who cares that much about a large, online multiplayer community when gaming already has a gaming pc....so....
it's silly to look at Stadia/gforcenow/XCloud in the lens of how well they will convince a pc/Xbox/playstaion owner to throw away their hardware and move to cloud gaming. The short term goal of cloud gaming has nothing to do with that.
As for Stadia being able to survive with all the other services...yea who knows. Amazon streaming seems to have existed just fine despite the Netflix model
So Stadia is for people that like playing online games alone. Got it
Depends.
for Gforce Now and XCloud you still have to buy the games as well, ya know.
in the end, content and convenience wins in the streaming space. See a game ad or streaming on YouTube click a button, start playing it...vs getting into the Steam ecosystem and download games..? Could go either way.
I do agree the biggest danger for Stadia is current lack of content, but I expect that to change by the time the free version launches, who knows.
But Stadia as a concept is valid and sound.
I'd be very disappointed if it's not but I have a feeling that it won't be
I can't honestly it was promised to come with the founders edition and now it probably requires a sub instead of just being included for founders.
yeah i have nothing against the concept
steam through GeForce now is infinitely better for game variety game prices and player base
And I am confident x cloud will just be part of game pass ultimate and is light years ahead for becoming the "Netflix of video games"
YouTube integration is definitely a big deal but I think price beats advertising
They've said already that it's tied to Pro. It's probably one of the few, if not the only game, that will remain so, but it felt kind of weird when they said that Founder's edition get this and that, but keeping D2 regardless of tier was mysteriously not part of that.
okay, it's pretty shitty because if any game should be for founders with how they announced it separately from the pro sub, it should be destiny. The other pro free games are understandable to keep with the sub. I guess we will see if they handle the f2p portion at all.
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When Xcloud gets released, the plan is for it to work with Game Pass, so a subscription service will give you access to hundreds of games.
The same is already true for PlayStation Now - for half the annual cost of a Stadia subscription (or, put another way, for the cost of one full-price game per year), you get access to hundreds of games.
With GeForce Now, you're absolutely correct that you get no games as part of the package, and Nvidia aren't even trying to sell those games to you, so it's kind of a BYOG service. However, it's not too difficult to accumulate a PC games library almost by accident. I barely ever buy PC games and yet there's almost a hundred games on my Steam account and another dozen or so on Epic's store. I think some on Origin and UPlay as well. GeForce Now also supports some free-to-play games. It's a different ownership model to Stadia and personal circumstances may vary significantly, but a lot of people might find themselves in a position where they can stream more games on GeForce Now, today, without buying anything, than there are games on Stadia to purchase.
There may be instances where people find Stadia is good value. If they're only interested in one game, for example - Stadia will allow them to buy the game individually and (we expect) play it without limitations and without a subscription. However for anyone looking to play a somewhat wider selection of games, there is every chance that doing that on Stadia would cost them more than on any other competing streaming service.
When do you expect the free version to launch then? If it's any time soon, you appear to be expecting a sudden glut of Stadia announcements and releases.