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The Verge “ Why is the PS5 outperforming the ‘world’s most powerful console’?
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For some xbox players it must be hard to wait and wait and wait…
Pretty much. I wonder what is this "full RDNA2 feature set "
Quite so. PS5 tools are a continuation of Sony work on PS4 while MS rebuild their tools from the ground-up to allow better multiplatform development between Xbox and Windows. They went from the XDK(Xbox Development Kit) to GDK(General Development Kit)
No shit. The point is that MS is in a time disadvantage.
There is nothing "eh" about it, it happens.
Ha, man said he had a whole report and everything! I guess everyone knows of Tom's open secret huh?
I don't get this, the PS5 has a very small advantage in specific situations in a few games.
Why some people's sleep is harder because of this?
It's not like a massive difference or anything.
Why some people's sleep is harder because of this?
It's not like a massive difference or anything.
I'd rather folks be open about their biases than play everyone for fools, tbh.
Re: the tools reasoning, the presumption that Sony's tools will stop being developed and/or becoming more efficient is a necessary predicate here, no? As is the assumption that Microsoft's tools can actually catch up to where Sony's are now, no?
We will see, but "wait until next year" has been a theme under Spencer for years, so I don't know why this is terribly surprising.
To be fair, blaming it on rushed software and immature dev tools is a lot more credible than hidden secondary chips and the power of the cloud. Amazing how many people thought that remote off-device cloud computing would cause a local GPU to run more effectively dealing with micro-second dependent calcs.
User Banned (1 week): platform warring, antagonizing other members, drive-by posting, prior bans for platform warring
Ol' Tom Console Warren at it again.
Last time I wrote something about Tom I got a 2 week vacation, tread carefully my friend.
User Banned (2 weeks): antagonizing other members, drive-by posting, history of infractions for console warring
Yeah he's not dealing well with all this. It's weird when grown men act like this for some reason.
What I actually said on Kotaku Splitscreen about the PlayStation 5's specs
Earlier today, someone made an awful thread based on a lengthy conversation I had on the Kotaku Splitscreen podcast by transcribing a single line from it, and it led to 12 pages of truly embarrassing discourse. Since so many of you commented and reacted without actually listening to the episode...www.resetera.com
The amount of flak I got for saying this...
Even your example was 100% correct. wow
It's almost like boiling everything down to on-paper teraflops is a horrible idea and there is far more at play when developing games.
Also, it'll be nice to see both platforms tools continue to get better as this gen goes on!
Also, it'll be nice to see both platforms tools continue to get better as this gen goes on!
Hes arguing from a better position than Penello was in 2013, but he's really hedging his initial bet now. He said the difference will always be there and will always be obvious, now he's saying it will be there eventually.
People mentioning how Xbox will get better. That's certain, but developers will get more familiar with the PS5 as well.
Obviously both will perform very good.
Obviously both will perform very good.
What I actually said on Kotaku Splitscreen about the PlayStation 5's specs
Earlier today, someone made an awful thread based on a lengthy conversation I had on the Kotaku Splitscreen podcast by transcribing a single line from it, and it led to 12 pages of truly embarrassing discourse. Since so many of you commented and reacted without actually listening to the episode...
The amount of flak I got for saying this...
I remember that. People were dumb to give you flak for this.What I actually said on Kotaku Splitscreen about the PlayStation 5's specs
Earlier today, someone made an awful thread based on a lengthy conversation I had on the Kotaku Splitscreen podcast by transcribing a single line from it, and it led to 12 pages of truly embarrassing discourse. Since so many of you commented and reacted without actually listening to the episode...
The amount of flak I got for saying this...
And it never will be. And all these games out the gate where both consoles can be scrutinized are not exactly where they should be optimization wise. These consoles are so close to each other, even if Series X pulls ahead eventually...it'll be nothing substantial. *rubs crystal ball affectionately*
As always--confirmation bias. Folks want their plastic box--marketed as the most powerful plastic box--to capably demonstrate to others that it is indeed the most powerful plastic box and that the marketing wasn't merely snake oil, hoodwinking, tomfoolery, etc.
I think the notion isn't just that MS has undercooked tools, but that they were also significantly later which would impact these launch titles the most.
I mean, we'll see if any of this is true in 6-12 months. I tend to believe it only bc we've been hearing this since before launch.
Right down to which game would even perform better.The amount of flak I got for saying this...What I actually said on Kotaku Splitscreen about the PlayStation 5's specs
Earlier today, someone made an awful thread based on a lengthy conversation I had on the Kotaku Splitscreen podcast by transcribing a single line from it, and it led to 12 pages of truly embarrassing discourse. Since so many of you commented and reacted without actually listening to the episode...
yeah, but at some point Sony tool will hit a wall and MS tool will break past that wall, you'll see....
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I'm guessing Tom has shown a heavy bias toward MS. If someone can correct me that'd be great.
we're clearly not part of the always online stonecutters, fellow non-joke getter
Maybe if they come in at the same price and simply replace the current consoles, then a refresh would work. But, yeah, I find that a refresh to a more expensive console while the existing ones are still around would be clunky again.
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Tom is doing a great job to help his favourite company get better image.
I hope they appreciate him.
I hope they appreciate him.
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Why is the PS5 outperforming the ‘world’s most powerful console’?
The PS5 is punching well above its weightwww.theverge.com
"Some of these differences could be down to bugs, but I've been speaking to developers (who wish to remain anonymous) about the Xbox Series X development environment and it's clear things are a little complicated.
Microsoft only allowed developers to submit games for Xbox Series X certification in June, after delivering an update to its Game Developers Kit (GDK). That followed the company's rather tight schedule for dev kit allocations, all while I've been consistently hearing that many developers had access to PS5 dev kits far in advance of Xbox versions."
interesting stuff.. XsX and XsS are amazing and well built consoles, hopefully they get dev issues sorted out fast and I am curious to know what this AMD feature is. great job tomwarren
I don't disbelieve it at all, I just think there's a lot of moving parts with presuming it makes up some of the perceived shortfalls.
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