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The US Womens' Soccer team and inappropriate celebrations
- Thread starter The King beyond the wall
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It's the nationalism that's boosting the page numbers, not the gender of the athletes.
They are one of the most scoring nations in World Cup history...
for a men's game that 7-1 was insane, especially given that Brazil was one the favorites to win the wc.
Yeah, that's one of the reasons I find it strange people use that game as some example of universal virtue everyone must follow. Germany was knocking Brazil out of the tournament, Brazil happened to be the host country, and even with everything being 100% equal, of course you're going to see different players/teams/cultures respond differently to such situations.
You could make the argument that showing pride and happiness at every goal is in itself a valid form of respect, and either way, the Thailand game was a different situation: it didn't decide Thailand's fate, every goal scored potentially mattered for winning the group, and we weren't Thailand's guests. :P
It's weird seeing people turn "I felt kinda bad for Thailand, I wouldn't have personally kept celebrating" into hyperbolic nonsense about bullying or whatever.
there is a difference between scoring many goals during the Group Stage and scoring too many goals during the Knock Out Stage.
During the Group Stage, you would want to beef up your Goal Differential as an insurance policy... just in case you end up tied in points in the Group
During the Group Stage, you would want to beef up your Goal Differential as an insurance policy... just in case you end up tied in points in the Group
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I don't especially care about the celebrations beating England, or celebrations generally as long as they're not taking the piss out of negative stereotypes.
Celebrating every goal long and loud in the 13 goal drubbing of the amateur Thai team though? That showed a deep lack of class and respect.
Celebrating every goal long and loud in the 13 goal drubbing of the amateur Thai team though? That showed a deep lack of class and respect.
It is simply a personal preference. I dont see any reason to wildly celebrate goals once your are past 4 or 5-0. The game is won already. No need to dunk further on the loosing team.
Most of these players wait their whole life to score a goal in the World Cup. Most of these players never know if they are going to get the chance again. It's a big fucking deal and apex of their entire career/life's work.
Let them celebrate.
You can't say shit like that with this post directly above you.
Plenty of time for the ladies to learn this glorious goal celebration:
Perhaps the celebrations had nothing to do with the other team, and the person scoring simply felt a great amount of joy about fulfilling a lifetime goal?
No, it's about 13 pages about Thailand, which we still don't think is a big deal, but some of you insist on viewing them as children who got massacred by Mike Tyson.
"Some of you"
You can keep me out of that shit. Pointing out that it's a poor look is not the same as.. whatever that is.
The Earth is literally melting down in India, but op wants to talk about sports celebration? So much privilege.
Still the best riling up opposing fans/players celebration in the last 24 months:
They played a game. One team won fair and square and celebrated their win and you want to convince me it's a bad look for reasons ...
The BS we've covered so far
Unwritten rules
Class
Sportsmanship
Thailand being new
All of which I say, who cares besides uptight snobs.
I guess it's a culture thing. No need to discuss it further
If you do "la gallinita" (little chicken) in River Plate's stadium (Argentina) you can start a huge, campal fight between fans and the player can get send off.
I believe drinking tea is OK. Now looking forward what celebration they will do when US gets the second place in the WWC.
I believe drinking tea is OK. Now looking forward what celebration they will do when US gets the second place in the WWC.
How many videos of other cultures doing waaay more notable celebrations have been posted in this thread. You have to actively ignore them to make this kind of post.
Quit being so defensive dude. You don't have to agree with me. Sportsmanship is something that carries over into personality it's not "for snobs", that's weird take, and blasting a shitty team out of the stadium 13 nothing isn't a good look when they can't even score a goal. It's not a dealbreaker for me, I still like the team and am rooting for them but it's a bad look. You're not either with them or against them so quit forcing some shitty ultimatum. You can still like them and apply criticism.
Nothing about that was defensive. I just think it's a bullshit argument. Maybe stop treating Thailand like a little league team which is the basis of the argument really.
That's fine. My goal wasn't to personally convince you to agree with me.
I was in Brazil that day (or well, not really Brazil since it's a border city but still) and people were fucking devastated lol. The streets were empty, many stores straight up didn't open, there were torn apart Brazilian flags on the mud... It sure was something
This is such ridiculous attitude considering that it was very likely that Sweden could have easily run up the score against Thailand too. Were the Americans supposed to operate under the assumption that Sweden wouldn't score as many goals as they did, and that they would show mercy if they did? Scoring those goals weren't the problem, it was the celebrations (for some) as the tally kept growing.
Yeah, the people treating Thailand like they were defenseless little children are disrespecting them far more than an innocent display of excitement over having scored a goal in the world cup in front of a giant cheering crowd. And to claim it's an "American culture" thing is beyond stupid. Is dictating to female athletes how to celebrate properly a cultural thing as well?
I see people say this, but in the case of USA - Thailand, can you really say this when there is a significant talent disparity between the two teams?
Saying "don't let them score" loses meaning at that point. Especially factoring in the difference in developmental systems.
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The only relevant one to the given scenario was Germany destroying Brazil. The Germans chose to not humiliate the other team further, the Americans didn't. It's a culture thing.
I'd get more offended if I knew the other team wasn't trying and was sandbagging. Especially at that level of competition. Might as well institute a mercy rule then if you're gonna complain about this type of stuff.
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So if you want to pretend that these two teams are on a level playing field, go right ahead, but that's delusional.
So you admit you are actively ignoring the other examples. Cool. Thank you.
Bruv, it was 5 years ago. Germany made their decision. I don't care, they did them. US made their decision, they did them. My point is, it's weird to point to either as right or wrong when no actual rule was broken.
Just saying, maybe let's try not to sound like J. Jonah Jameson almost verbatim (this is directed at the rest of the thread) on some "this bitch is eating crackers" tissy.
I mean the WC was in Brazil and that game was played in front of what was largely Brazilian fans. Not wanting to start a riot probably also played a role in their reservations in how they celebrated right?
Did I say it was wrong? I said it's a difference in sports culture. Which is also why the reaction to it is polar opposite between Americans and the rest of the soccer world.
You're telling me Germany could have scored more than 7 but because of some unwritten non-American honor, they decided not to... oh vey
Don't think any english people actually cared? Least this thread is the first I'm hearing off it.
The 13 goals thing to me is a poor look. It's just kind if cringe to celebrate wildly when you're opponents are so clearly way worse than you. The score being run up is whatever but no need to celebrate like you're doing something special.
The 13 goals thing to me is a poor look. It's just kind if cringe to celebrate wildly when you're opponents are so clearly way worse than you. The score being run up is whatever but no need to celebrate like you're doing something special.
What an overly broad and ignorant thing to say. You truly think there is one sports culture in a nation that dictates everything?
You're German. Why are you so salty about the uswnt? Brits here have overwhelmingly said they're fine with it. But for some reason you're not. Hmm
No I am talking about the way they celebrated after the 4th goal compared to the US players.