They are located at Incirlik AB. It's a joint base, but mainly a US base. There are over 5k American Airman stationed there.
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The US has 50 nuclear bombs based in Turkey
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They are located at Incirlik AB. It's a joint base, but mainly a US base. There are over 5k American Airman stationed there.
That was 1961. Tech has advanced since then. Read the article. Detenator is now encrypted and the bombs can even be rigged to be destroyed with the conventional explosives.
US military would proabably remote detonate nukes before letting another nation state loot them.
It wouldn't even be war in the traditional sense. If Turkey tried to take over a US base and steal US nukes, the US and EU would immediately pancake them.
I could have sworn this was public knowledge. I guess it was just an open secret?
Anyway they're guarded and operated by US Personnel in country, so there's no real way anything could happen without Turkey immediately causing a war with the United States. The weapons will presumably be pulled out if relations continue to deteriorate.
Anyway they're guarded and operated by US Personnel in country, so there's no real way anything could happen without Turkey immediately causing a war with the United States. The weapons will presumably be pulled out if relations continue to deteriorate.
While everyone knew there were bombs in Turkey the official US stance was not to talk about them. You simply do not talk about the location of such weapons etc. Dick brain does though because he's a moron.
Also Turkey tried fucking around with the base a while back. The US military people were not happy in the slightest. Thankfully, there are precautions in place to prevent people taking the nukes and using them.
Also Turkey tried fucking around with the base a while back. The US military people were not happy in the slightest. Thankfully, there are precautions in place to prevent people taking the nukes and using them.
Thought everyone knew they're at Incirlik, in fact I'm pretty sure there were a lot of justifiably worried people re: their safety during the attempted coup in 2016.
Still, another example at how bad trump is at discretion and keeping national security information compartmentalized. He's such a fuckwit.
Still, another example at how bad trump is at discretion and keeping national security information compartmentalized. He's such a fuckwit.
They are totally safe. Trump stupidly stating what was already factually known doesn't change anything. Besides where the nukes are stored, the way nukes work is they are basically paperweights to those not authorized to use them.
Yeah it's an open secret that they are there. Still not good to tell people the amount that is there though. There was rumoured to be around 50 but nobody knew for sure. Now they fucking do.
Well that's certainly some information to just drop on the world at 5:30pm on a Wednesday night.
I don't believe a state actor would be stupid enough to even have a paper trail discussing the possibility of this happening (then again, look at the white house).
Non state actors can certainly wreck damage on the installation and unless the US manage to overhaul it's entire chain of command since a few years ago, they don't seem that well protected either.
Nothing to fear from Turkey though, that I would definitely agree.
I don't think getting a full size nuke stolen is the issue here.
Yeah, it's an open secret and known for well over at least a decade to my knowledge.
And for the unaware: there's also nukes in the Netherlands (estimated 20 at Volkel Air Base), Belgium (estimated 20 at Kleine Brogel Air Base), and Italy (estimated 40 at Ghedi Air Base and another estimated 40 at Aviano Air Base).
It may be an open secret, but other leaders like Putin will now politicize it as a reason to get more aggressive with their own military.
lol does he know that part of the deal to avert the cuban missile crisis back in the 60s was that u.s would remove their missiles from turkey?
how would russia react to hearing that even though the missiles are gone, the bombs werent?
how would russia react to hearing that even though the missiles are gone, the bombs werent?
Russia probably knows everything about those nukes, probably always has. This is not some top secret stuff.
Russia knows the US has nukes in Turkey, everyone knows, seriously, NATO even accidentally revealed the full list of bases the US have nukes in and everybody was like yeah, we know. The US insists on lying about it because it's easier to prevent public debate on why the fuck do the US keeps all these nukes in Europe if we can just say "we can neither confirm or deny" instead of trying to justify that madness.
The Cuban missile crisis deal was way more specific.
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The data on these bombs has been on wikipedia for years. Russian intelligence would be intimately aware of all this, although I'm sure the local media might make a show of this for domestic consumption.
Why can't he accidentally reveal anything about aliens. "Yeah we have a few saucers in Area 51"
One of those rare moments when Trump being a selfish asshole that doesn't care about governance happens to result in something kinda good.
We cheering the general there?
I'm not sure it's great to let the military put shit we don't know about in the border wall.
I'll bet you anything future presidents will continue to duck question about it by neither confirming or denying.
But yeah, I think if this end up with the US having a discussion about why the fuck it still have nukes all over Europe, that's a very good thing. Though I suspect the media will mostly be focused on Trump breaking protocol.
This is why he is the greatest argument against a government conspiracy.
Really not, the wall is an offensive monument to stupidity and racism and I personally care not a whit for the preservation of its secrets, just recognizing Trumps characteristic complete lack of discretion or subtlety.
lol I HIGHLY doubt Trump is trusted with anything alien related. The president isn't privy to everything - some topics are on a need to know basis.
Or maybe someone just needs to ask him...
Personally when I saw that video the first thing that I thought was "wait, why the fuck does the military put some secret tech in the border wall? I want congress to find out about it and I want them to tell me".
I already knew Trump is stupid and racist, so I guess there is some sort of recency bias in play since these are fresher news.
The news story is that Trump disclosed publicly that there are 50 nukes in Turkey. This is unprecedented.
The new Ferme paradox should be how there aren't aliens because Trump hasnt disclosed it.
The new Ferme paradox should be how there aren't aliens because Trump hasnt disclosed it.
I mean the US, UK, Russia, and PRC all have submarines armed with nuclear missiles at sea constantly too. I don't remember if we still have nuclear armed bombers still in the air constantly or not.
Point is the only big deal here is that Trump is an idiot and actually admitted to it.
Point is the only big deal here is that Trump is an idiot and actually admitted to it.
Someone has asked him somewhat recently and he unequivocally said it doesn't exist.
He's a huge liar, but only to benefit himself. He probably would seize an opportunity to be known as the president that proved aliens exist, taking down a decades old conspiracy most recently including Obama. But he can't because they probably don't exist. At least not in something like Area 51.
They only really kept them in the air at all time from '60 to '68, which was really one of the dumbest cold war things the US did, and it did A LOT of dumb things in the cold war.
They were kept on high alert, fully fueled and armed and ready to go on a moment's notice until 1991.
Also, everyone knew that the US has nukes in Turkey, continuing to lie about it only serve to stifle any sort of way overdue discussion over this.
Trump is an idiot, but in this case his stupidity could be somewhat useful.