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The updated Switch should have added bluetooth
- Thread starter Youngfossil
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If you're building a device yourself in a garage maybe. There are devices the size of the switch (SteamLink) that have shielding for this and has bluetooth headset and wifi and controllers. enough with the excuses bruh
Has to be docked though doesn't it? What I really want to use is my wireless earphones while playing portable.
Support for bluetooth earbuds is, quite frankly, the one new thing I really want Nintendo to implement for the Switch.
Sure, I would be happy to get other perks, such as an expanded console library for the online service - but at the end of the day I don't even have time to keep up with all the new games that come out, let alone replay older ones.
Sure, I would be happy to get other perks, such as an expanded console library for the online service - but at the end of the day I don't even have time to keep up with all the new games that come out, let alone replay older ones.
It is. A supposedly mobile oriented gaming device not supporting bluetooth is a complete joke.
Is there more information on that? I'd like to read it.
Also, stop saying people are making up excuses. Not everything is "please don't criticize muh company".
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lol i was being fictitious with the excuses stuff. But seriously there's no reason this should be a thing for a company like nintendo.
Same here! Even the microphone works which is great for Fortnite.
Yes. But I personally just use ear buds from my iphone for portable use. In handheld, it's never more than 2 feet from me.
Edit: I think you can use a usbc to usb a adaptor... but that's going to be a little cumbersome.
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People probably aren't using bluetooth headphones in a multiplayer situation.
Not supporting wireless earbuds is a baffling decision that legitimately cuts down on my Switch usage. I'll want to play something in bed but then remember that I need to track down some ancient wired headphones, so I just watch YouTube on my phone instead.
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Would like to know more about this. And I also would like to see BT support, but it isn't a dealbreaker or anything
Would like to know more about this. And I also would like to see BT support, but it isn't a dealbreaker or anything
It's simple easy. The usb dongle plugs into a usb port on the dock. You turn on the headphones and voilà! It automatically connects.
I got a Genki adapter (can connect 2 separate bluetooth devices at once) and it works like a charm. It is so small and perfect sync with my AirPods. If they are still avaiable, I'd recommend bluetooth people look into them. Pops into the USB-C slot and has a USB-C slot so you can charge while using the headphones.
The headset comes with a USB dongle. Plug it into the dock and you are good to go. Works instantly. Headphones and mic.
I was mainly speaking from the experience I have with bluetooth devices. Ran into issues with my PS4 and my phone when not connect to a 5GHz network. Tough if there's a way to circumvent this, then surely it's something any company should look into when designing their devices.
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Whoa, didnt know those existed, but still 50 bucks for something thats literally already built in... but good to know
Considering that each joy con is an individual controller using a channel, that would be 16.
Uh HDR displays are still expensive. Unlikely they'll jump from 720p LCD to like OLED HDR anytime soon.
To be fair. This new switch model is the best thing we original model owners who mostly game on TV could hope for.
I have 0 reasons to upgrade and that's great.
Maybe the reason Nintendo doesn't enable BT Audio is the added battery drain. Stupid move in my opinion. What if I want to game with my wireless headphones in docked mode or while otherwise charging?
Guess Nintendo figured this wasn't a typical use case.
I have 0 reasons to upgrade and that's great.
Maybe the reason Nintendo doesn't enable BT Audio is the added battery drain. Stupid move in my opinion. What if I want to game with my wireless headphones in docked mode or while otherwise charging?
Guess Nintendo figured this wasn't a typical use case.
Can you actually have 8 players all using dual joycons? I thought the cap was 8 different controllers total.
They mean when outputting to the TV. The Tegra it uses supports it, not the screen in the device
I mean to a degree.
Even if Nintendo did support bluetooth audio, I'd bet they'd only support bog standard SBC not any of the other licensed codecs considering they don't even bother paying for any Dolby licensing when it comes to wired audio.
Which means the Genki would still be better even if they did add it really since it supports multiple codec options including AptXLL which is best for latency.
aptX has about the same latency as any other codec.
aptX Low Latency is a different codec, and almost nothing supports it (mostly Avantree devices).
Nintendo would have to license aptX LL in addition to SBC for the console to support it. An aptX LL device is not going to be lower latency than any other, if it's not using aptX LL.
If it doesn't cause enough interference to notice, it doesn't matter. And it's not guaranteed to cause interference, like you're implying.
I have a high-powered Bluetooth audio transmitter (Avantree Oasis) located right next to an access point, and it has made no difference to either the Bluetooth range, or WiFi range/speeds.
Quite a lot of Sennheiser wireless in ears support aptX LL actually, including the new Momentum True Wireless.
As for aptX latency, that's not entirely true. aptX tends to be a lot more consistent since it's set specifications where as SBC and AAC can range anything from as good as aptX to worse depending on implementation on a given device.
Nintendo does not care about what you want. Nintendo does not like licensing fees. No Dolby. No DTS. No Bluetooth audio. Nintendo.
So true.
So true.
There are some pretty cool, non-discrete Bluetooth adapters on Amazon for cheap. I have one of them. It would be nice to have this built in. It is soooo cool to play a portable console with a wireless headset.
You can't use 16 joycons
You can use 8
8 player games require everybody to use a single joycon.
Oh, that's news to me. I haven't really been paying attention to Sennheiser's wireless headphones, since I really didn't like the aesthetic choices they made with their headsets (I don't like how the Momentum range looks at all).
aptX may be more consistent than SBC and AAC depending on the device, but aptX is not a low latency codec. You're still going to get 4–5 frames of latency if it's not aptX LL (which is about 1 frame of latency).
Oh I'm not denying that much I'm just saying the other ones can be even worse with bad implementations.
aptX may be tolerable for people less sensitive to lip-sync issues, but the other two may not even get to that point if the implementation isn't there.
Just dive in. There's two and a half years of incredible games to play.
I have the OG switch. I was referencing the lite and the new switch. Neither one of them makes me want to spend the money on them. It's sad. So at this point I am okay just waiting.
the person you were replying to literally said their d-pad broke twice on them and can't be repaired. do you think they meant that it incorrectly registered a hadouken twice?
I meant this:
"Oh geez, the defense force for broken controllers is here."
that's a pretty reasonable response to the way you dismissed someone's experiences as "overblown". it's like saying the new macbook keyboards are fine because you don't mind typing on them even though they break on people.
if you don't have standards for d-pads and aren't bothered by the pro controller's, that's up to you and i'm glad you're happy with it. but you literally replied to someone saying theirs was broken to say "nbd, mine's fine". not helpful!
I suppose that's true, though most of the better headsets tend to have comparable latency across SBC/AAC/aptX.
But what I'd point out is that I would say I'm not particularly sensitive to lip-sync issues unless I am specifically looking for them. I can watch videos in a web browser without lip-sync correction (rather than a media player with an offset) because I'm not usually staring at people's mouths as they are talking, so it generally doesn't bother me.
However I find latency to be extremely noticeable when playing games, as you press a button, see the action immediately on-screen, but there's a delay before you hear it; e.g. firing a gun. That stands out far more than lip-sync errors, which is why I think most people asking for Bluetooth audio are going to end up disappointed unless it's aptX LL.
It's more forgivable that something like the PS4 doesn't support bluetooth headsets because at least there there's a headphone jack in the controller. If you're playing docked with joycons then you better be sitting right next to the system otherwise no headphones for you
It's the biggest limiter for portability, even more than its size and battery life for me. As someone who uses only bluetooth headphones for traveling and commuting, having to carry around a second set just for my Switch is dumb. Most of the time I'd rather just play with no sound tbh.
Really broken d-pads aren't an widespread issues. It sucks, but things like that can happen with all products. I just disgreed with the sentiment that all pro-controllers are broken because they have a bad d-pad. I'm sorry if I worded that badly.
A lot of wireless headphones work perfectly fine for docked mode though... What are you talking about? Just now I'm sitting on my couch with my wireless Steelseries headset playing Splatoon 2. It uses the same wireless dongle I plug into my PS4 to use the same headset. Even Sonys wireless Gold and Platinum headset are supported by the Switch.
The real issue with no BT on board is handheld mode, not docked.
Anyone who claims the D-pad on the Pro controller is fine is most definitely a defense force member. It isn't fine. Any dpad the randomly registers down or up presses when the user presses left or right is broken. There is no logical defense for a company knowingly selling a controller that is that awful. It isnt as you stated a matter of taste. It's a matter of a controller supposed to be functioning one way but actually malfunctioning a different way.
Buuuuuuuuuuulllllllshit!
Not sure. I don't think any games support that if you can.
Yes they are. It's a design flaw not a manufacturing mishap. There's a reason that people constantly complain about it.
Mine and every single one i've used I get phantom up inputs. Makes tetris on switch garbage (until I got my hori joy con for a d-pad that actually works).
I've actually just transitioned to using a joystick on Mario Maker because of it.
