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The total cost for PC+console gaming is ridiculous, have you tried adding up the costs?
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Zeroing in on one aspect of that particular TV is a bit of a shitty argument though. As mentioned above, I picked up a CX recently and it's absolutely transformed my gaming experience even in 1080p, the picture quality is that damn good. Having VRR/Freesync is an added bonus that will smooth out anything in the 40+fps range to the point you'll likely not notice frame drops as much.
You realise the irony in that statement, right?
I have never found it worthwhile on PC, maybe on consoles it will finally shine. I could spend that money on a GPU and never need FreeSync... Ever.
The image quality I will judge when I see it; until then, it's very much snake oil
I realize that I never found a point in spending a huge amount of money on TVs, and that consoles usually offer the worse experience for me.
Not everyone buys a 1000+ dollars PC or wants/needs the visual fidelity that brings.
If you get something around 800 and don't have to pay for multiplayer and have access to cheaper games overall and it pretty much makes up price wise. Also, most exclusive deals don't affect the PC. Even first party stuff gets there now. It's a great and flexible platform.
You can also set your PC as a streaming box and play games everywhere.
If you get something around 800 and don't have to pay for multiplayer and have access to cheaper games overall and it pretty much makes up price wise. Also, most exclusive deals don't affect the PC. Even first party stuff gets there now. It's a great and flexible platform.
You can also set your PC as a streaming box and play games everywhere.
Not really, as getting console just for few exclusives is such a waste.
Build my PC in 2018: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/ts7ksZ for two thousand and I'm pretty confident that it will carry my gaming after GPU upgrade to 2025. At that point I've enjoyed "next gen" gaming for 7 years and that's not too bad.
Going from a mid-range 1080p set to an OLED is astonishing, and absolutely worth the money.
Ah well. What might be acceptable to you might not be to everyone, eh?
Yep. It is funny that I would never expect a console to actually drive that 4k beast, while I would very much just get a commoner 4k and hook up a good GPU to it and call it a day. Rest of the money I would just have a trip to Japan and it would have "absolutely transformed my gaming experience" after I come back with so many retro goodies.
Wow. I think I'm done here. Even after trying to say to you that some people might just want a nicer TV regardless of feeling the need to run it at the bleeding edge, you *still* decide to be a gatekeeping asshole and try to make people feel shitty about their purchases. Try just letting people like what they wanna like, you'll live longer.
Well then, good sir, I am an asshole because I have the mentality of a poor ass person who lived their life barely dreaming of having the money to afford their own house, and that definitely doesn't feel the need to spend twice the money to get that little more enjoyment.
I am, I am wasting already money on a PC, so I guess everyone is entitled to burning money how they see fit?
This is actually good advice. Park the FOMO and you have more games to enjoy than you actually have time for.
If by burning, you mean spending, then yep. Some people spend thousands on a car living in a rented property. Some people spend thousands on gaming in a rented property (like myself). Some people spend nothing, saving every penny and buying a house without enjoying their life. I dream of owning a home one day too, but I don't go and shit on people's purchases because can't afford/don't want to buy them. To each their own. No need to be a dick about it.
(FWIW, I've been in a position where I was so broke I couldn't afford the sleeping pills I wanted to take my own life with. I've been in some really shitty situations and positions. But I've been fortunate to end up in a decent job that allows me to do pretty much what I want to do at the minute. I came to realise that trying to bring people down over things they bought or enjoyed just wasn't worth it. As long as people are happy, who gives a shit?)
I am not shitting on them. If people didn't want to discuss or get even the slightest comment, they shouldn't have joined a forum in the first place.
I was literally enquiring because:
1. I would not spend money on features I couldn't even use (gsync, freesync, 100hz whatever)
2. I would not spend money on value that just isn't there (XSX, tho the hardware itself is great, mind you)
3. Complain that I don't have money for PC when I am already ballin' on getting two of the most expensive consoles ever launched on the market taking into account inflation, and a baller TV at the same time.
If you were already intending to have a pc, (for whatever reason; exclusives, fps etc) then it makes no sense to pay for a console on top of that. You might as well put your money towards replacing your gpu every 3-4yrs.
I'm buying a ps5 on launch because I know that there will be exclusives I want + it allows me to put off upgrading my creaky old pc for another couple of years.
Or maybe you are doing it wrong?
There is so much more to PC gaming than better FPS and higher resolutions.
I've always considered multiplatform gaming to be a waste of money.
90% of new games on each are 3rd party multiplat. Frankly, spending 400 on another platform just to play a few exclusives on the other side doesn't strike me as a smart investment.
90% of new games on each are 3rd party multiplat. Frankly, spending 400 on another platform just to play a few exclusives on the other side doesn't strike me as a smart investment.
Yep, and it's why I'm PC only from here on out. PC's as expensive as I want it to be, and has a far larger library then anything else out there.
The fact that I haven't been buying Sony/Nintendo's latest games, and don't care that I'm missing them makes me happy. I can truly say that FoMo is no longer a thing for me, and I no longer need all of these platforms to have access to everything.
The fact that I haven't been buying Sony/Nintendo's latest games, and don't care that I'm missing them makes me happy. I can truly say that FoMo is no longer a thing for me, and I no longer need all of these platforms to have access to everything.
My solution to this is to back away from consoles, PS4 could be my last. I may miss some exclusives but we live in an increasingly multiplatform world and there will be more than enough to play. It helps that I know I won't need ÂŁ3000 of hardware for this as well, I've never been anywhere close to spending that.
I get it, I used to own all consoles in the PS2 era but I'm getting over that FOMO because I'm tired of needing so many boxes for specific games. Especially since it's for less than ever before. If someone wants me as a customer they need to come to where I am now.
I get it, I used to own all consoles in the PS2 era but I'm getting over that FOMO because I'm tired of needing so many boxes for specific games. Especially since it's for less than ever before. If someone wants me as a customer they need to come to where I am now.
I do enjoy chasing the best experience on PC, but given how much my revenue has fluctuated over the years, I was also shown how easy it is to... well not do it when you can't ( so also when you don't want to ).
I went from buying second hand 570, to first hand/new 980 then 1080... to staying on my 1080 for 4 years.
Just like smart phone, neither going for the most premium model nor a 2 years upgrade cycle is a necessity at all.
Will I upgrade to a 30x0 if given the opportunity ? sure. But if I can't ( and I most definitively currently can't ) I'll still be able to enjoy pc gaming with no problem.
That's not to say that going for a single console, at least around their release, isn't the best bang for buck you can get because it probably is.
I went from buying second hand 570, to first hand/new 980 then 1080... to staying on my 1080 for 4 years.
Just like smart phone, neither going for the most premium model nor a 2 years upgrade cycle is a necessity at all.
Will I upgrade to a 30x0 if given the opportunity ? sure. But if I can't ( and I most definitively currently can't ) I'll still be able to enjoy pc gaming with no problem.
That's not to say that going for a single console, at least around their release, isn't the best bang for buck you can get because it probably is.
Every five years. And no, it really isn't.
It's 2 months mortgage payments. Its 3 months car payments. It's a year of energy bills.
It's not nothing, but it's not the exorbitant cost suggested by the OP or the post I was replying too.
Mid range PC gaming is fantastically affordable.
It's all relative. ÂŁ1000 is a lot of money for a lot of people.
Agreed. Nothing says that you need to get 4K 120 Hz with ultra details. With PC you can choose the experience you want to achieve with your purchase choices and adjusting game settings or you can buy a console for a fixed level experience. Console is always going to be the most cost effective solution when purchased new. The used market for PC components will get you into a pretty decent rig for a lot less money.
Personally on PC I am gaming in the high end, 3700X and 2080 Ti currently. 4K 120 Hz. Don't feel I need anything faster really so I am in no hurry to get a 3000 series GPU. The 3090 will be too expensive and the 3080 most likely not enough of an upgrade so might as well wait for a refresh next year.
To do both pc and console gaming is pretty extravagant for most people, the vast majority choose which is best for them.
To do both and to plan to have top of the line machines and the newest next gen consoles is extreme. Nothing wrong with it if you're into games that much but you're pretty much making it expensive yourself at that point
To do both and to plan to have top of the line machines and the newest next gen consoles is extreme. Nothing wrong with it if you're into games that much but you're pretty much making it expensive yourself at that point
You don't have to buy all these things at once, nor at the same time. You do it over time.
Multiplatform gaming costs more than sticking to one platform, indeed. I agree. But at the same time that means you are restricted to play a specific version, or miss out on certain exclusives. Everybody can decide for themselves what they want.
PC gaming is only worth it for me if I can get a guaranteed 60FPS at a high resolution (i.e. 4K).
I spent ÂŁ1400 on my PC Feb 2019. If I want my PC to remain competitive for next gen, I will need to buy an 8 core CPU at the minimum, in addition to a GPU which is beefy enough to provide me 4k60. That will incur a rather large cost.
The pricing for the 1080Ti was actually pretty good for a 'high end model'. But yes, you are correct. Since the release of the RTX 2000 series, the pricing has gotten out of hand.
I switched from PC to Mac this year (RIP Steam library) and am hoping to cut out one console next gen (currently have all 3). Holding onto the Xbox One X for Halo Infinite and probably will sell it after that and go with PS5 + Switch. My real hope is that one day xCloud will be able to run games well in a browser and then I can access their must-play games on the Mac and just pay for GamePass when a game I want to play is added.
I know people who will spend more than that on wine each year or on tires every 3 months when car racing.
Heck, couple of my friends are into bike racing (bicycle) and a good bike is 2x that $4K. And let's not talk about motorcycles or boats.
Gaming is not a super expensive hobby in comparison. You also don't have to buy everything day 1 or buy highest end parts every year or two to enjoy playing games.
Heck, couple of my friends are into bike racing (bicycle) and a good bike is 2x that $4K. And let's not talk about motorcycles or boats.
Gaming is not a super expensive hobby in comparison. You also don't have to buy everything day 1 or buy highest end parts every year or two to enjoy playing games.
None of that is required though. I was playing Control yesterday on a computer made from old spare parts, running the game off of a slow hard drive. It doesn't look as good or run as well as my main PC, but I wouldn't complain if this were all I had.
edit: The cost is only as high as your demands.
edit: The cost is only as high as your demands.
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The cost is high if you buy it all outright.
I've been slowly upgrading my computer and it's in a pretty decent shape for games now, but I think I want to replace one of the first parts that I got, my 1070, with a 3070.
For consoles, I got the Xbox One first, in 2014 for MCC(RIP), then my PS4 in 2015 on Boxing day on sale... then I got my Switch at launch because EB messed up my Breath of the Wild Wii U pre-order as a switch pre-order.
The time between buying each console was enough for me to finally finish upgrading my PC in 2018, and yeah. Sure the cost was a lot looking back, I've gotten a lot of use out of all of it.
I've been slowly upgrading my computer and it's in a pretty decent shape for games now, but I think I want to replace one of the first parts that I got, my 1070, with a 3070.
For consoles, I got the Xbox One first, in 2014 for MCC(RIP), then my PS4 in 2015 on Boxing day on sale... then I got my Switch at launch because EB messed up my Breath of the Wild Wii U pre-order as a switch pre-order.
The time between buying each console was enough for me to finally finish upgrading my PC in 2018, and yeah. Sure the cost was a lot looking back, I've gotten a lot of use out of all of it.
I resigned to the fact that this PC's gonna cost more than usual a while ago.
If I'm gonna keep playing modern games on PC, it's an upgrade that's overdue. And it's a rare expenditure, that I hope will last like half a decade.
But even with that in mind...it's really beyond my typical threshold and not something I'd normally be able to do, or at least feel comfortable doing.
I have a spreadsheet for my PC part budget. It's currently at about 70% of the total I've typically spent on a new PC, and I haven't bought the motherboard, CPU and GPU yet. Those are the most expensive parts. GPUs in particular are absolutely outrageous. Expect I'll end up somewhere around 200%. Plus a monitor.
So yeah, whether I want to or not, I'm not investing in other platforms any time soon.
If I'm gonna keep playing modern games on PC, it's an upgrade that's overdue. And it's a rare expenditure, that I hope will last like half a decade.
But even with that in mind...it's really beyond my typical threshold and not something I'd normally be able to do, or at least feel comfortable doing.
I have a spreadsheet for my PC part budget. It's currently at about 70% of the total I've typically spent on a new PC, and I haven't bought the motherboard, CPU and GPU yet. Those are the most expensive parts. GPUs in particular are absolutely outrageous. Expect I'll end up somewhere around 200%. Plus a monitor.
So yeah, whether I want to or not, I'm not investing in other platforms any time soon.
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I do wonder how much a PC gaming rig of equivalent performance to the XSX or PS5 would cost. Seeing that a 7 GB/s SSD alone costs $400, I'm guessing it'd cost considerably more than these consoles will end up costing.
As already pointed out by many, you don't need to get everything top of the line to enjoy gaming. In the grand scheme of things, spending $5000 every 5 years or so on a hobby is not that outrageous really. Lots of "hobbies" are way more expensive than that. Try to get into photography for example, good camera bodies and lenses will easily cost you way more than that. Again, do you "need" the high end stuff to have fun? Not necessarily, but eventually you will want it. Same thing for other hobbies? Car or bike enthusiast? Good luck! As long as you spend within your budget and don't starve yourself or your family or skip a mortgage payment to buy a RTX 3090, it's ok.
if you're actually upgrading every year you should also be getting a decent percentage of your costs back via selling off your old used parts though
I spend a LOT less and get much more games than on consoles.
I also use PC to do everything else I need (like browsing Era now lol)
Most PCs gaming are mid to low end. And the reason why its popular is because popular PC games work on a toaster (DOTA, CS GO, LoL, Fortnite and so on) and people that want to expand their gaming taste have regional prices and lots of stores to get better deals. Plus, i have my PC to make music, edit videos and oversee my security system 🤷‍♂️
PC gaming is more expensive up-front if you want high end hardware. However, PC games are a lot cheaper, both when on sale and at launch. I'd wager that a new game launching on both consoles and PC will be 30-50% cheaper on PC if you buy/pre-order your key at the right place. For instance I got Resident Evil 2 Remake at launch for less than € 35, when it would have cost me at least € 55 on PS5, same for Sekiro. If you buy a lot of games at launch, it adds up.
And I guess piracy is still a thing...
This, having a fulltime job and kids and sports this generation messed me up with buying to many games. I did not even finishing them all and then the next set of games are already around the corner. I have all three consoles because i want to play the exclusives, but if all games where on PC i would switch in an instant.
PSN (same regional pricing on Xbox):
Steam (definitive edition just released):
Yes, PC gaming is very expensive, you have to be strategic and wait for deals, get older parts, not upgrading everything at once, stuff like that. Do you really need to run everything at 4k60fps? Or do you just want to play the games? I don't mind playing stuff on 720p here with a few tweaks.
Also, these threads are usually very elitists and full of people that have no awareness about how privileged they are.
Also, these threads are usually very elitists and full of people that have no awareness about how privileged they are.
