The Surge 2 OT | Cut to the Core

[Jakke_Koala]

As I remember, MGR required you to press the attack button while pushing the stick in the direction of the enemy that is attacking you, right? In The Surge 2 you hold block then push the stick in the direction the attack is coming from to parry assuming the enemy is in front of you: so up if they're swinging overhead or thrusting, down if they're going for an uppercut, left/right if they're swinging their weapon at your left/right side. It only really works against enemies attacking you from the front (approximately, but there's a bit of leeway). It also needs to be timed properly to knock them back, improper timing will block the damage, really bad timing will let the attack go through. Blocking doesn't use stamina but parrying will, so parry spamming might prevent you from parrying at the crucial moment.

I'd say it's less MGR and more Mount & Blade.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, there's also an implant that tells you which direction you'll need to parry when an enemy is preparing to attack you.

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Thanks, you're right. In MGR you need to press attack instead of block.

Also, in the Jim sterling video, he says you can hold square (for chopping of limbs) while still doing regular attacks.
But can you also do regular attacks while holding the block button?

 

[Deleted member 29682]

But can you also do regular attacks while holding the block button?

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Not really, but while blocking you can charge up an attack by holding an attack button. If you release the button you'll go straight back into blocking, whereas you'd just do a normal attack if you released the button early while not blocking. Bear in mind that charging up an attack drains stamina.

 

[shimon]

 

[Jakke_Koala]

Not really, but while blocking you can charge up an attack by holding an attack button. If you release the button you'll go straight back into blocking, whereas you'd just do a normal attack if you released the button early while not blocking. Bear in mind that charging up an attack drains stamina.

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Thanks for the replies. Look forward to playing it in a few weeks/months.

Love your avatar btw

 

[GymWolf86]

After 5 hours with the game i can safely say that who gives a score under 7 to this game for the most stupid reasons doesn't understand a lot about videogames or they just hate soulslike genre...

The game except maybe for the horror atmosphere is better in any noticeable way.

Even more labyrintic level design but with a more clear way to remember places because is not samey factory shit all the time.
The level design in this game is crazy good onestly, better than any soulslike except maybe dark souls 1 (fight me)
More enemy variety
More weapon variety
More armour variety
The new cut limbs animation are a violent delight to watch everytime
More locations variety
More builds available
Better controls and feel
Maybe even more difficult than surge 1 (a plus for me, i really hate easy soulslike)
Directional Parry and other little tweaks to the combat
One of the best soulslike combat in the market, in the nioh\bloodborne tier with some weapon imho
Usefull and more varied drones
Better asyncronous multyplayer part
More bosses (i heard)
More npc and sidequest
Slightly better graphics (but worste performance).

If you are open minded about the surge saga and you like soulslike just buy the game already.

If you are on pc you can even fix performance with some tweaks.

P.s. do you know the secret method for the special weapon of the first boss? And maybe even the second one? There is a guide on the internet?
Thanks.

 

[Rakuyo]

After 5 hours with the game i can safely say that who gives a score under 7 to this game for the most stupid reasons doesn't understand a lot about videogames or they just hate soulslike genre...

The game except maybe for the horror atmosphere is better in any noticeable way.

Even more labyrintic level design but with a more clear way to remember places because is not samey factory shit all the time.
The level design in this game is crazy good onestly, better than any soulslike except maybe dark souls 1 (fight me)
More enemy variety
More weapon variety
More armour variety
The new cur limbs animation are a violent delight to watch everytime
More locations variety
More builds available
Better controls and feel
Maybe even more difficult than surge 1 (a plus for me, i really hate easy soulslike)
Directional Parry and other little tweaks to the combat
One of the best soulslike combat in the market, in the nioh\bloodborne tier with some weapon imho
Usefull and more varied drones
Better asyncronous multyplayer part
More bosses (i heard)
More npc and sidequest
Slightly better graphics (but worste performance).

If you are open minded about the surge saga and you like soulslike just buy the game already.

If you are on pc you can even fix performance with some tweaks.

P.s. do you know the secret method for the special weapon of the first boss? And maybe even the second one? There is a guide on the internet?
Thanks.

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I would sign this immediately. I am shocked that it didn't review any better it's so much better than the first game.

 

[GymWolf86]

I would sign this immediately. I am shocked that it didn't review any better it's so much better than the first game.

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i saw review who straight up lies about missing features of the game...

inferior number of armours
inferior level design
etc.

i mean, wtf reviewers get your facts together for once...

 

[h0tp0ck3t]

P.s. do you know the secret method for the special weapon of the first boss? And maybe even the second one? There is a guide on the internet?
Thanks.

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Spoiler: First boss

for little Johnny you have you cut off the pincers on the main body. They are next to the cooling tanks

Spoiler: Second boss

for Delver (I think? ) I heard you have to do a charge attack on all his armored parts to break them each phase. I'm not up to him yet though

 

[stan_marsh]

Fuuu I forgot to get the weapon for

Spoiler: Mini boss after first boss

brother eli

Had to cut arm off

 

[Daimon]

Just a quick note, the first boss of the game is not

Spoiler

Little Johnny.

Every enemy that has a big energy bar on the top of the screen is considered a boss.

 

[stan_marsh]

edit: nvm

 

[Maffis]

Disappointed in the weak final boss. Way too easy.

 

[GymWolf86]

Spoiler: First boss

for little Johnny you have you cut off the pincers on the main body. They are next to the cooling tanks

Spoiler: Second boss

for Delver (I think? ) I heard you have to do a charge attack on all his armored parts to break them each phase. I'm not up to him yet though

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thanks man.

 

[stan_marsh]

Daily reminder that this game is fucking awesome.

 

[Lulu]

How is this on PC?

 

[stan_marsh]

Oh shit, if you go back to Brother Truman and tell him you

Spoiler: Post boss 2

killed Brother Eli, he fights you and you can get his weapon, Brother Truman's Faith spear.

 

[d00d3n]

Oh shit, if you go back to Brother Truman and tell him you

Spoiler: Post boss 2

killed Brother Eli, he fights you and you can get his weapon, Brother Truman's Faith spear.

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Where is he located after killing said boss?

 

[UnInvincible]

Just finished this a little bit ago, really enjoyed the game overall. The last boss was probably a bit too easy considering I beat it on the first try, but it looked pretty cool at least. NG+ seems potentially pretty cool.

Spoiler: Light NG+ spoilers

I didn't expect the short playable scene on the plane at the beginning, wonder how many other additions & differences there will be. Equipment being able to be boosted up to level 20 is nice too.

Always appreciate a stats screen after the credits too:

Bonus screenshot of my full astronaut armor set, I think it's pretty dope.

 

[UnInvincible]

Where is he located after killing said boss?

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He should still be on the rooftop of the police station where you exit out of at the beginning. Careful though, if he kills you he disappears and you don't get a chance to get the weapon until way later in the game.

 

[d00d3n]

He should still be on the rooftop of the police station where you exit out of at the beginning. Careful though, if he kills you he disappears and you don't get a chance to get the weapon until way later in the game.

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Thanks

 

[GymWolf86]

Just finished this a little bit ago, really enjoyed the game overall. The last boss was probably a bit too easy considering I beat it on the first try, but it looked pretty cool at least. NG+ seems potentially pretty cool.

Spoiler: Light NG+ spoilers

I didn't expect the short playable scene on the plane at the beginning, wonder how many other additions & differences there will be. Equipment being able to be boosted up to level 20 is nice too.

Always appreciate a stats screen after the credits too:

Bonus screenshot of my full astronaut armor set, I think it's pretty dope.

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Only 37 death? You are good broh.

Also where i have to go after the meeting with brother eli after killing the first boss??

The church? The underground?

 

[*Splinter]

Starting playing last night and absolutely loving the game so far. Cleared out most of Port Nixon but not seen the boss yet. Been using a mixture of single rigged and twin rigged weapons, the speed difference between the two is so crazy it's almost like playing a different game, both very fun to use. Difficulty wise I'd say this is slightly easier than the original, which for me was the hardest Souls like. That's not to say it's too easy, it's actually at a really good level so far.

I really like the addition of the online "player graffiti". It's pretty helpful to make sure you don't miss items off the beaten path and there's some funny stuff too.

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I quite like the style of the graffiti, but sometimes there's a bit too much of it. When it's spammed everywhere it ruins the aesthetic of the game a bit, and can actually make it harder to spot the thing you're supposed to interact with. Still, that's a minor gripe, and seems to be less of an issue the further I go.

Also right behind where you took this screenshot is a person dancing, and someone had drawn a DDR mat underneath them lol

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Damn, Warden Garcia with a 610 k/d... :P

 

[Soggoth]

Crap, the new update introduced 1-2s freezes into my game every ~10-15mins. Good that I'm almost done :)

 

[*Splinter]

Forgot to mention how much I appreciate this party system. Most games the timing is so tight I never bother with it. Here there's seems to be a bit more leniancy to make up for the directional requirement, and I find myself using it a lot more.

Also I've placed my banner in the same spot I think 3 times without anyone finding it, this is easy scrap :p

Just fired up the game and invert look was on for some reason. That was disorienting.

 

[GymWolf86]

Where i can find the banner drone?

 

[*Splinter]

I enjoyed the first major boss, but this next guy sucks. Hate fighting enemies with just unlimited stamina.

Where i can find the banner drone?

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I don't remember exactly... It was after escaping the prison but before the octopus building

 

[Psychotron]

I finally beat that bastard

Spoiler

Little Johnny

. I did not enjoy that fight at all. There was a level of having to learn moves and patterns but the targeting system was unreliable, the camera was bad when near a wall, the frame rate would drop up close, and parrying was iffy. I'm glad it's over lol.

 

[painlanguage]

This game is such a blast to play. I'm glad they got rid of the weapon proficiency system. I've been using multiple weapons because of it.

 

[h0tp0ck3t]

I finally beat that bastard

Spoiler

Little Johnny

. I did not enjoy that fight at all. There was a level of having to learn moves and patterns but the targeting system was unreliable, the camera was bad when near a wall, the frame rate would drop up close, and parrying was iffy. I'm glad it's over lol.

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YAY! Congrats! Did you get his v2 weapon?

 

[Daimon]

Only 37 death? You are good broh.

Also where i have to go after the meeting with brother eli after killing the first boss??

The church? The underground?

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The overall difficulty of the game is quite nice. I died 34 times in 32 hours, which is not that bad. I feel that the balancing was well done and without any major difficulty spikes.

I finally beat that bastard

Spoiler

Little Johnny

. I did not enjoy that fight at all. There was a level of having to learn moves and patterns but the targeting system was unreliable, the camera was bad when near a wall, the frame rate would drop up close, and parrying was iffy. I'm glad it's over lol.

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Parries are great against larger bosses. They also work well against human sized bosses, but I think they work better against larger and/or faster bosses.

 

[Soggoth]

Aaaaand finished it. My first souls-like game that I actually finished :D The thing that stood out the most for me was great balance between difficulty and accessibility. Great game and I actually liked that the last boss wasn't that much difficult (one shotted it) :)

 

[painlanguage]

Oh shit, if you go back to Brother Truman and tell him you

Spoiler: Post boss 2

killed Brother Eli, he fights you and you can get his weapon, Brother Truman's Faith spear.

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Unfortunately he killed me and he was gone when I went back. Hopefully he shows up somewhere. I need that spear.

 

[Psychotron]

YAY! Congrats! Did you get his v2 weapon?

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Nah. I was so annoyed by the lock on constantly losing track of the tanks I decided just try and win the fight. Felt great to get past it, lol. Only the final boss in Sekiro annoyed me as much as this. It's funny how people can breeze through a notoriously hard game and get stuck on what many think is a relatively simple boss in another game.

 

[Blitzrules240]

Gideon Rock is kicking my ass

 

[Danteyke223]

Wellp I know what is my moment of the year from any videogame this year.

Game is great, difficult and then there is a narrative turning point that makes the game even harder and that was for me pushing it to almost unfair territory.

Also I love how it acknowledges The Surge 1 and even continues it. Thank heavens the "it was all a nightmare" theory isnt true.

 

[d00d3n]

Gideon Rock is kicking my ass

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Faster weapons for the ninjas, learn to break shields for the statues.

 

[MattyG]

All the stuff I'm seeing about this makes me really want to start up the original finally

 

[Blitzrules240]

Faster weapons for the ninjas, learn to break shields for the statues.

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Well now I'm stuck on the midboss. The invisibility and shock elements are not fun.

 

[Danteyke223]

Well now I'm stuck on the midboss. The invisibility and shock elements are not fun.

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Midboss as in Cervantes or Delver?

 

[mogster7777]

Is this better than code vein

 

[Daimon]

Gideon Rock is kicking my ass

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That statue gives a very good weapon. Also, you can use that statue to farm tier 5 materials.

 

[Blitzrules240]

Midboss as in Cervantes or Delver?

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Cervantes. I'm Level 41. I have weapons upgraded to IV and maybe armor set is pretty solid.

 

[stan_marsh]

the side quests in this game are great

 

[Danteyke223]

Cervantes. I'm Level 41. I have weapons upgraded to IV and maybe armor set is pretty solid.

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I think my tactic for that guy was getting the jaguar armor (the stealth soldiers) , and getting the Gaia spear and just hitting him as much as possible. The attack speed on those things are massive. Oh and use the EMP drone as much as you can to stun lock him . Good luck!

Edit: You get that spear from the statues in Gideon Rock

 

[stan_marsh]

Cloud 9 Bar:

 

[Blitzrules240]

I think my tactic for that guy was getting the jaguar armor (the stealth soldiers) , and getting the Gaia spear and just hitting him as much as possible. The attack speed on those things are massive. Oh and use the EMP drone as much as you can to stun lock him . Good luck!

Edit: You get that spear from the statues in Gideon Rock

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Any tips on the statues? I've been running past them because they just rekt me. I could probably farm a set of Jaguar armor though.

 

[Portmanteau]

Just finished this a little bit ago, really enjoyed the game overall. The last boss was probably a bit too easy considering I beat it on the first try, but it looked pretty cool at least. NG+ seems potentially pretty cool.

Spoiler: Light NG+ spoilers

I didn't expect the short playable scene on the plane at the beginning, wonder how many other additions & differences there will be. Equipment being able to be boosted up to level 20 is nice too.

Always appreciate a stats screen after the credits too:

Bonus screenshot of my full astronaut armor set, I think it's pretty dope.

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That set is sick!

 

[Portmanteau]

After 5 hours with the game i can safely say that who gives a score under 7 to this game for the most stupid reasons doesn't understand a lot about videogames or they just hate soulslike genre...

The game except maybe for the horror atmosphere is better in any noticeable way.

Even more labyrintic level design but with a more clear way to remember places because is not samey factory shit all the time.
The level design in this game is crazy good onestly, better than any soulslike except maybe dark souls 1 (fight me)
More enemy variety
More weapon variety
More armour variety
The new cut limbs animation are a violent delight to watch everytime
More locations variety
More builds available
Better controls and feel
Maybe even more difficult than surge 1 (a plus for me, i really hate easy soulslike)
Directional Parry and other little tweaks to the combat
One of the best soulslike combat in the market, in the nioh\bloodborne tier with some weapon imho
Usefull and more varied drones
Better asyncronous multyplayer part
More bosses (i heard)
More npc and sidequest
Slightly better graphics (but worste performance).

If you are open minded about the surge saga and you like soulslike just buy the game already.

If you are on pc you can even fix performance with some tweaks.

P.s. do you know the secret method for the special weapon of the first boss? And maybe even the second one? There is a guide on the internet?
Thanks.

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Co-signed.

 

[h0tp0ck3t]

Whoo the boss in Gideon's Rock was fucking awesome

 

[KaiPow]

After 5 hours with the game i can safely say that who gives a score under 7 to this game for the most stupid reasons doesn't understand a lot about videogames or they just hate soulslike genre...

The game except maybe for the horror atmosphere is better in any noticeable way.

Even more labyrintic level design but with a more clear way to remember places because is not samey factory shit all the time.
The level design in this game is crazy good onestly, better than any soulslike except maybe dark souls 1 (fight me)
More enemy variety
More weapon variety
More armour variety
The new cut limbs animation are a violent delight to watch everytime
More locations variety
More builds available
Better controls and feel
Maybe even more difficult than surge 1 (a plus for me, i really hate easy soulslike)
Directional Parry and other little tweaks to the combat
One of the best soulslike combat in the market, in the nioh\bloodborne tier with some weapon imho
Usefull and more varied drones
Better asyncronous multyplayer part
More bosses (i heard)
More npc and sidequest
Slightly better graphics (but worste performance).

If you are open minded about the surge saga and you like soulslike just buy the game already.

If you are on pc you can even fix performance with some tweaks.

P.s. do you know the secret method for the special weapon of the first boss? And maybe even the second one? There is a guide on the internet?
Thanks.

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I got the first one in NG+ by parrying and cutting the right arm. Could've sworn I did the same thing for the second boss (didn't get the trophy when I earned it in NG)