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The Smiths or the Cure?
- Thread starter Vanillalite
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The Cure by a country mile.
I realize the Smiths are highly influential and all, but I literally can't listen to any of their songs without getting annoyed. I hate Morrissey's voice so much. Also I really don't like the actual songs themselves. I have to admit I don't listen to the Cure either, but I can at least stand them.
I realize the Smiths are highly influential and all, but I literally can't listen to any of their songs without getting annoyed. I hate Morrissey's voice so much. Also I really don't like the actual songs themselves. I have to admit I don't listen to the Cure either, but I can at least stand them.
Just listened to it and yeah that's pretty close, but something is still off to me (thought he yelled it louder), I must not be remembering it correctly. Thanks!
These days you can't reasonably listen to Lostprophets or Gary Glitter.
I don't see why The Smiths should be any different. Loved them in the past, feel kind of awkward listening to their output now knowing just how toxic and hateful Morrissey is. Johnny Marr is still a god among men, though.
I don't see why The Smiths should be any different. Loved them in the past, feel kind of awkward listening to their output now knowing just how toxic and hateful Morrissey is. Johnny Marr is still a god among men, though.
This. I love his music but I find it difficult to enjoy because I know too much about the man behind the music.
the smiths quite easily. i really like a handful of the cure songs, but the smiths is one of those bands where i've listened to pretty much everything they've done repeatedly.
The Cure! Like The Smiths but they've never really been one of 'my' bands, one that's really resonated with me in the way that The Cure are. Plus Morrissey's a fascist and Robert Smith's not, so there's that.
Irrespective of cuntery levels I always preferred The Cure.
Just roll out the paedophiles, turn it up to 11. I think trying to draw parallels between attempted rape of a baby and the twat Morrisey is really stupid.
maybe pethsop boys,
But I still i think we cant just single it 2 just 2 bands... it leaves out bands like Jesus and Mary chain, and echo and bunnymen if where talking about only uk bands.. yes Jesus and Mary chain is Scottish..
Are you saying it's as easy to justify listening to Ian Watkins as it is to Morriesy? I didn't think so.
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The Sound of The Smiths is fairly comprehensive, still missing some great ones. Well I Wonder is lovely, and I've always found the OG album version of 'What Difference Does it Make' to be definitive even if Morrissey dislikes it
Rusholme Ruffians also had a playfulness, with dark snapshot of life storytelling that underlined The Smiths' appeal to me far more than their more bombastic hits
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Very strongly this!
But then also this.
Sigh.
I mean, even though Morrissey is an ass, you can't really compare something that happened like 15 years before he was born with someone actively trying to rape a baby.
The Cure, no contest.
not a huge fan but they have some really stellar songs like In Between Days, Lovesong, Lullaby, The Walk etc etc.
i can't think of any good songs by The Smiths. i like Quicksand's cover of How Soon Is Now though, it's better than the original lol.
not a huge fan but they have some really stellar songs like In Between Days, Lovesong, Lullaby, The Walk etc etc.
i can't think of any good songs by The Smiths. i like Quicksand's cover of How Soon Is Now though, it's better than the original lol.
This thread is tearing me apart. It's like asking for my favourite child and it feels like with which ever one I choose, they'll get shot.
I really, really want to say The Smiths because I got into them first and they totally resonate with me in terms of the beautiful poetic verses Morrissey wrote (when he wasn't a facetious Tommy Robinson bottom feeder) and the utter masterclass in sonic symphony that is the guitar work of Johnny Marr, the bass work of Andy Rourke and drum work of Mike Joyce that absolutely encapsulates something so special and idiosyncratic, you'll never see a band gel so well skill-wise (which is ironic considering the lawsuit of the 90s). I don't think you'll ever get a bassline funkier than Barbarism Begins at Home, which is saying a lot.
However, The Cure are just absolutely phenomenal. I feel considering how most forums such as Era are very much America-centric in terms of user population, The Cure will easily win because they got big stateside and The Smiths, while still well-known for being the band Morrissey was in before he went solo in America, is quite niche. The Cure however just have such incredible variety and have absolutely powerful songs in terms of structure, songwriting and lyricism. I feel The Cure are more style over substance than The Smiths but that's a dumb thing to say considering how wonderful Robert Smith is as a songwriter. I'd also say Smith has a more charismatic voice in his work that feels a bit more genuine(?)
So I'm going with The Stone Roses.
I really, really want to say The Smiths because I got into them first and they totally resonate with me in terms of the beautiful poetic verses Morrissey wrote (when he wasn't a facetious Tommy Robinson bottom feeder) and the utter masterclass in sonic symphony that is the guitar work of Johnny Marr, the bass work of Andy Rourke and drum work of Mike Joyce that absolutely encapsulates something so special and idiosyncratic, you'll never see a band gel so well skill-wise (which is ironic considering the lawsuit of the 90s). I don't think you'll ever get a bassline funkier than Barbarism Begins at Home, which is saying a lot.
However, The Cure are just absolutely phenomenal. I feel considering how most forums such as Era are very much America-centric in terms of user population, The Cure will easily win because they got big stateside and The Smiths, while still well-known for being the band Morrissey was in before he went solo in America, is quite niche. The Cure however just have such incredible variety and have absolutely powerful songs in terms of structure, songwriting and lyricism. I feel The Cure are more style over substance than The Smiths but that's a dumb thing to say considering how wonderful Robert Smith is as a songwriter. I'd also say Smith has a more charismatic voice in his work that feels a bit more genuine(?)
So I'm going with The Stone Roses.
Love both but prefer the Smiths, their albums are just class from beginning to end, can barely fault a track and their B sides would put most bands to shame. If it was a contest about which frontman turned into the biggest cunt then the answer would be even clearer.
The Cure is nothing without Lol Tolhurst, and wrote a lot of the early stuff now credited to Smith.
But fuck The Smiths, amirite? Not because it has one of the most influencial guitar players in modern history, but because Morrissey.
Ah, thank you for this.
Favorite killer track from favorite film.
The JAMC baby. Or New Order. Or Tears for Fears. I mean I like the Cure but there's only so much self-pity I can tolerate. As for Morrissey, he's like the worst pseud first year english lit student ever (no surprise when he tried to write a novel and got exposed hard for this), I like the Smiths musically but I can't deal with this doofus doing his shitty Byronic poet impression over the top.
Personally I'd put The Jesus and Mary Chain above both, but they are in my top 5 favourite bands or close to it. Hell, Bauhaus were a better Goth band than The Cure, many other bands I prefer too. But for popularity and ongoing influence I'd put The Cure and The Smiths up at or at least near the top.
And let the power of Johnny Marr bring a little bit of love for The Smiths back. This is cracking!
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The Smiths... but not by much and you have to ignore Morrissey.
I listen to the Cure more often than the Smiths these days though. And they played an amazing set at Glastonbury (though I only listened on TV).
I heard Moz playing some older songs when I saw him about 10 years ago and he didn't give a shit about making them sound good.
I listen to the Cure more often than the Smiths these days though. And they played an amazing set at Glastonbury (though I only listened on TV).
I heard Moz playing some older songs when I saw him about 10 years ago and he didn't give a shit about making them sound good.
If you go to a Johnny Marr gig then you hear the Smiths when he plays the old stuff, it blew me away after going to a few morrissey shows over the years.
