Even after witnessing years of the repubs putting party over country I'm still shocked that this is falling on party lines.
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The Second Impeachment of Donald Trump (Update: House Officially Votes to Impeach)
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has anyone talked about the suspicious lack of security at the Capitol even after it was EXPECTED there would be tensions?
There's been several articles written about it. There will be several more over the next few weeks\months. Check WaPo.
Yeah, noticed this before... Remaining time is 0 with over a hundred votes still to go through
PS5 Direct countdown. I think Seth Moulton is trying to score one
Well this is dead already. They're voting straight down party lines. Oh well, at least they tried. Hope the republicans enjoy another 10 years of annoying ass Trump fluttering around in the background (and hopefully not the foreground).
It is when 2 of his biggest influences are his father and mentor, Roy Cohn.
To me, 100% He will get impeached but absolutely anything else will happen, sadly.
Dems own the house, so the impeachment will pass there easily enough.
It's the senate and the removal from office that's unlikely.
Almost certainly 100%. It would take nothing short of a miracle for them to get the required 67 Senate votes for removal.
Ahh, don't the Dems own the majority now? Or is the new positions only effective from the 20th?
Its a tough juggle. Some feel this MUST be done because if you wont do it when they literally attempt a coup, then when WILL you do it? They feel that an example must be made; that this time you cannot afford to sweep it under the rug or you are lowkey condoning the action. And they have a point.
But yeah on the flip side, if R's are just going to block it, others feel some other stuff that they need would/should be priority right now instead. Its impossible to please everyone here. But Im leaning towards the former, and what they are doing now. Quite frankly this is the single most impeachable offense I have ever seen from the office of the President. Even if its going to be blocked, this shit needs to be done, or else when they HELL do you impeach?
Yeah, if it wasn't clear these are NOT votes on impeachment and were almost certain to be party line
It's a shame they don't play the Sonic the Hedgehog music when oxygen is running out as the timer ticks down.
Effective only on the 20th, and that doesn't matter, because you need 67 Senate votes for removal.
Between the Republicans doing nothing about that guy who tried to gun them down a while back, their complete lack of action on COVID, and now not voting to impeach the guy who almost got them killed, they have the worst survival instincts.
To move on from the debate they just had over adding amendments to it and getting on with the actual impeachment debate.
If you watch c-span the host just explained it live too lol as I was typing this out.
It's not it's procedural and it's being done because the GOP brought up an amendment to have a bi partisan committee be formed to look into the insurrection or something.
These republicans are aware if Trump doesn't get impeached, that he will most likely run for congress/senate/governor of FL. Like do the not want to be re elected within two years, or will they think people will forget about it.
Look at all those ANTIFA actors making republicans look bad and escalating the situation!Crazy scene:
Yeah. But you wouldn't want it to be 51. Because that puts any president with an opposing Senate in jeopardy.
Dems won't own the Senate until the Georgia elections are certified which I think I saw was going to be the 22nd at latest? But it's not relevant. Their majority in the Senate isn't enough for anything. You need 67 to impeach and they're obviously nowhere near having 67 Democrats in the Senate.
Basically they'll need 18 Republicans to vote with the Democrats in the Senate to convict. It kind of depends on whether or not McConnell actually votes for it or not.
I guess the really shocking thing here isn't that it takes a 2/3 majority to get removal done, but that apparently you'd have to do something TRULY atrocious for those 2/3 to also see it that way, and that very probably this isn't even bad enough.
Only effective from the 20th, and impeachment requires a two thirds majority.
That said, there have been some reports that the number of Senate republicans willing to impeach Trump are there this time. I'll believe it when I see it, but if true Trump could end up being legally blocked from running again in 2024. (Unfortunately, that wouldn't stop Jr. or Ivanka from running in his stead, so it wouldn't completely eradicate the Trump cult.)
I mean in this hearing as they are making a case for impeachment? Because I think this gives the argument more weight when you compare and contrast previous incidents and this particular one. The lack of protections in place at the Capitol that day was embarrassing at the very least, highly suspect and potentially by design. That needs to be talked about more.
even more reason to vote and impeach him...giving in to this is exactly what you shouldn't be doing...
They need 2/3 vote in the senate to convict and remove from office. That would take something, like, 17 Rs to vote with it.
