Snoke was a nothing "villain," he's barely in TFA. And, Luke wasn't "dead."
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The Rise of Skywalker Review Thread: The Sheev Saga Comes to a Close [No Spoilers] (Rottenwatch: 55%; 10% below AOTC) [SEE STAFF POST]
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Snoke was a nothing "villain," he's barely in TFA. And, Luke wasn't "dead."
I'm seeing it on Saturday too, I'm now more curious than ever to see how they screwed it up (for the critics at least)
I still say they should have kept one director throughout.
Nah that's what I'm anticipating as well. A lot of the "problems" being pointed out in the reviews I've read are things I'm actually excited about lmao.
Snoke sucked yes, but just making the point that there's no "Infinite Possibilities. " when you kill off 2 major characters.
Exactly.
To be clear, when I say "infinite possibilities" I mean "new" possibilities. Snoke would've led to a carbon copy of the OT. Then JJ brought back Palpatine...
we can blame the directors all we want and they deserve criticism but the main issue has been Lucasfilm. They had no clear vision and made the decision to have a film release every year and because of that all the films have had problems.
Lucasfilm and Kennedy as the head of it deserve the blame.
Lucasfilm and Kennedy as the head of it deserve the blame.
I've noticed what a bunch of loud people on the internet who say they're a majority say about them, and the people they cite as anecdotes. That's about it. They may have the power to influence the way the movie is seen in the future, but that's because the internet gives these people non-proportional power in being the arbiters of popular culture.
My monkey's paw wish came true!
(Seriously though, Alita was pretty great.)
Ouch. Man, I wish I could watch this film legally without going to the cinema. Being surrounded by people I don't know stuffing their faces with nachos, and kids who won't shut up, is not worth paying for a ticket and the time spent travelling. I know, I know, oldmanyellsatcloud.jpg but I really thought Netflix/Amazon/etc would have solved this by now.
I love that we're now heading for a future where Rian and TLJ are heaped with praise though! That's a much bigger plot twist that I was expecting...
Wait...the guy who wrote this movie wrote Justice League and BvS? Everything makes sense now, what the flying fuck was Disney doing?
That's not fair. The release schedule was put onto them by Disney. And Disney wanted the movies to come out even sooner.
I have a feeling I will probably still enjoy the movie, but all the discourse over it on the internet will be worse than that of The Last Jedi.
Basically what I'm getting from these RT reviews and posts here is that this movie is some big not good.
As soon as the new film opened with a new Vader, new Tarkin, new Palpatine, new Rebellion, new Empire, new Death Star, new Obi-Wan, a droid on some "new" not Tatooine desert planet, it was all going to go down hill. Should have tried something new but just had to re-tell the OT story with new special effects.
It's small comfort but If TPM was released today I do belive it score would be in the 20's on RT.
the funniest part about Snoke is that he was basically a dollar store Palpatine and after Rian discarded him like the bum ass he was to further Kylo's story JJ just brought back actual Palpatine anyway
Especially considering how J.J. did amazing things with these 2 major characters in TFA. /s
Hi, I'm the one man who could save Star Wars
He'll save us from Star Wars with his Dune films.
Maybe I worded my first post wrongly, but my point is that people should be able to have a "fresh" experience even if they've read every review under the sun - assuming those reviews didn't spoil major plot points. People shouldn't be so willing to let reviewers colour their own opinions.
I blame disney for thinking SWfandom is a bunch of fucking morons that just want to see lightsabers rattle.
They could have just done a story line. A thought out and coherent one. Just go with that. Instead, the movies were insulting to your intelligence. Just obvious pandering to nostalgia with nothing else that was going to be meaningful and trying to rework the original which is a cinematic masterpiece. It CAN Be done, 100% someone could redo this -- with an actual vision. That did not happen.
Everyone involved is capable. The films look amazing, but the stories are all terrible. My standards were abysmally low... and even still..
You know what's gonna be awesome? George Lucas' shit eating grin when he's interviewed about this movie. Oh man I can't wait for the Lucasisms we gonna get in a week or so.
Should've gone with the Whills Disney! Lol.
Should've gone with the Whills Disney! Lol.
That and Lucas would be DRAGGED OVER THE COALS for Jar Jar and the other racist aliens.
JJ right now:
Kathleen:
Rian:
Knives Out, in theaters now!
Snoke was boring because they decided to do nothing with him in TLJ
Ironically they haven't even given us a single good lightsaber duel in any of their films.
I thought this post was funny and you should know that. Even though it's going to be buried in a sea of vitriol that is this thread lol.
They did the correct thing and ditched the emporer stand in. Not Rian's fault JJ is a hack who then immedatly brings back the actual emporer
No, if such a thing were to happen the universe would collapse in on itself for being too orderly and perfect. We would all burn in the sheer perfection and brilliance of such a pairing. Avert your eyes and cast off such imaginings, our mortal minds and cold world could never accept such magnificence.
Alas, we must take Blade Runner and Dune and be contented.
Marvel had Kevin which even if you say he isn't a"creative" at worst because he just adapts comics
"It's all very slick, very polished. What's not there is revelation, mystery or genuine emotional danger. Nothing is at risk. The pictures are made to satisfy a specific set of demands, and they are designed as variations on a finite number of themes." - Martin Scorsese on the Rise of Skywalker.