For all of my complaints/issues with RotJ, it has some of the best and THE best scene of the franchise. I will argue to the death that Luke/Vader's confrontation on the Death Star II was the best moment of the franchise.
That worked because it was Yoda, right out the gate he was more interesting than what Snoke was in TFA.
Ha, same here when I was a kid, until I saw Episode 6.
That could still be the case.
Considering that SW conversation somehow got based on supposed power levels you really have to wonder how people would react to Luke beating Vader. Since they so frequently ignore that Kylo lost to Rey in TFA due to the conflict in his heart.
He was against the destruction of Hosnian Prime. The novelization said this was Hux and Snoke's plan and Kylo didn't condone it.
Excellent take. It's funny how I've never heard this brought up before. If ROTJ was released today, I'd say that the vast majority of fanboys would still not see this as an issue. Baby Yoda being the prime example...Considering that SW conversation somehow got based on supposed power levels you really have to wonder how people would react to Luke beating Vader. Since they so frequently ignore that Kylo lost to Rey in TFA due to the conflict in his heart.
I imagine way less vitriolically because Luke is male and they don't get questioned to anywhere near the same degree as women in media.
Considering that SW conversation somehow got based on supposed power levels you really have to wonder how people would react to Luke beating Vader. Since they so frequently ignore that Kylo lost to Rey in TFA due to the conflict in his heart.
I imagine way less vitriolically because Luke is male and they don't get questioned to anywhere near the same degree as women in media.
Couldn't beat Vader who had no conflict at all about killing her.
Were there outcries over how awesome she was/is? Cause I don't really remember seeing it.
Or rather Luke got punked by Vader already in a movie and had a ton of build up both in terms of capability and also setbacks.
Yeah, not really. No one ever complained about her power levels because she wasn't very different from an ordinary Jedi. And you're forgetting the amount of hate and backlash she got when she first debuted. It took a few years for people to reconsider.
Rey has had plenty of flaws and development too but the haters will ignore all that to keep spouting their alternative facts.
ESB ended with Vader styling on Luke with minimal effort. Then there's a significant time skip after which Luke largely seems to be competent. TFA took place in like a week. TFA and TLJ taking place in a 2 week time span has always felt ridiculous to me.
Did you just spoil an important part of the movie? Like, wth?
Well this is what I assumed from a picture of Ian in an interview with clone vats in the background. I think it's a reference to Plagueis because JJ recently mentioned that the opera scene from ROTS is his fav prequel moment so it would tie the saga together like he keeps saying he will do.
Which cliffhangers? The major one was Han and we got all of the Jabba stuff at the start of RotJ.
Hmmm interesting take. I have pretty much assumed that they were going to give a better explanation of Snoke in the Rise of Skywalker and, while I did not see these pictures, this seems like it could be an explanation.
You've been posting in the spoiler thread, dude. You didn't assume shit.
A significant time skip? It's literally a few months, six at most, if even. In fact, I've heard a lot of people complain about how different Luke was in ROTJ versus TESB and how all his development was skipped over onscreen. There's nothing in TLJ that Rey does that I would find inconsistent with TFA.
I haven't seen the movie and I only know a few things from social media. I haven't heard anything about Snoke's role beyond the trailer with his voice which btw, also featured some weird energy vats or something. Fans made the connection between that scene and the Ian interview which pictured something similar. My theory is still that the film will reveal that Palpatine created the Skywalker line through Anakin and Rey is another similar force experiment.
Did you also assume Palpatine's dialogue from a picture?! This fucking guy. I'm now officially on social media blackout 4 hours before I'm watching it.
