Man . . . I can't imagine this is what Disney thought they were getting when JJ came back.
Hell, it's not even what I thought we were getting.
Hell, it's not even what I thought we were getting.
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The Rise of Skywalker (2019) social media impressions
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A problem I have is that he saves lives but doesn't save a soul. He never tries to lead Kylo back.
The Emperor isn't defeated when the Death Star blows up he's defeated when he can't turn Luke. Luke doesn't save Vader by getting him off the Death Star. He saves him by leading him back to the light.
This is what TLJ misses and why I'm not sure RJ really gets Star Wars.
I don't know what to believe with these impressions. Last night felt like a lot of really positive stuff with some clear-headed meh responses, and now it's like a race to dunk on it as """cleverly""" as possible. Ugh.
Critics are complaining about it having too much fanservice when Endgame was Fanservice: The Movie and that was received insanely well for a superhero movie. I don't get it.
Some fans leaking spoilers on Twitter last night were pretty negative on it
I really hope it's good but I have a feeling fans will gain a new appreciation for TLJ.
What I would fucking give to be a fly on the wall at Disney headquarters right now.
While I also have positive thoughts about the Last Jedi, he opens up with the Kylo Ren quote which is an immediate red flag in terms of believe someone understood the movie.
You say this implying Superman still isn't a part of pop-culture.
Also Star Wars is almost 50 years old. It's not going anywhere anytime soon.
I really don't understand this sentiment. I could see several interesting developments following the film
1. What happens when a somewhat immature, impatient, temperamental person basically becomes supreme leader? There's a lot of interesting ways to explore what happens and the character.
2. The rebuilding of the rebellion. Seeing others throughout the galaxy inspired by the stories of the resistance and joining the fight.
3. Rey no longer being shackled by needing to find meaning in her ancestry. How does that affect her?
4. Poe taking on a more mature, responsible leadership role.
One is a premiere, the other I assume is a press screening. Totally different atmospheres.
aside from whatever batshit content happens in the movie, most of these critics were huge fans of The Last Jedi and it sounds like J.J. straight up ignored it.
Their knives are, indeed, out.
There are ways to do fanservice right and then just shoving it on screen because you don't know what else to do.
Endgame was the former, and Abrams only ever does the latter.
the critics that praised the "different" tlj, don't like the new movie that goes in familiar star wars directions.
Actual critics watched JJ Abrams trying to produce the arcane concept known as ending
Why are we judging the movie now based of Twitter posts?
How about the actual reviews? Or you know, seeing the movie ourselves?
So many people are sounding like they want to abandon ship and half of these don't even seem that negative.
What the heck is even going on here?
How about the actual reviews? Or you know, seeing the movie ourselves?
So many people are sounding like they want to abandon ship and half of these don't even seem that negative.
What the heck is even going on here?
Well said. He's a generational talent that makes pedestrian choices.
Yes! Now there are three of us.
If you cut out the first half of endgame it probably would have gotten a worse response. Say what you will about Endgame but there was more to it than big loud balls to the wall fanservice all the time.
A lot of these twitter posts are FROM reviewers who can't actually publish their reviews until the embargo is up.
Pretty sure Disney knew the reviews were going to be dicey. That's why the embargoes still up.
Endgame gave itself time to breathe, which is a rarity in the MCU. That's when it was best.
It's true.
Sims seeming so bewildered by it is more concerning.
Look if they're going to fuck it up, they better at least let Ewoks take down the Federation.
Yea my opinion of that movie has dropped significantly with time and distance
Back then people actually went to see movies with their own eyes and talked to their friends about it afterward. It was fucking weird.
Most of the responses last night from people that liked the film said that if you loved TLJ, you're more likely to not like this movie.
Most of the critics posting today are the ones who loved TLJ.
Hence the disparity.
Most of the critics posting today are the ones who loved TLJ.
Hence the disparity.
Fair enough but so many of these seem more mixed then anything. I guess I just don't see what the need to panic is for.
Honestly there isnt much of a difference between the two. One had lower lows while the other was just consistently garbage.
Yup! Can imagine the biggest smile on my face as JJ unpicks TLJ piece by piece. Definitely feels like the crew are much more onboard with JJ. Just need Mark to let loose on his feelings now he's not duty-bound after TRoS.
fwiw it sounds like Terio was quite constrained on BvS and JL and JJ wanted him more off the strength of Argo and some currently unproduced political thriller he wrote.
Ehrlich is an interesting cat, as I so rarely agree with him and find his writing style be overly precious and twee at times, yet I'm always interested in his opinion. Kinda like Ebert, though I wouldn't call Ebert twee lol.
Just as a reminder: Ehrlich called Infinity War, I think one of the more well-liked Marvel movies here and elsewhere, "unwatchable space trash" and "one of the worst movies in the MCU," and generally has negative takes on franchise movies like these. It would've been a pleasant surprise if he liked this movie, or liked it as much as TLJ, but not unexpected that he didn't.
What we got in TROS was definitely not the overall plan for ST. Should have let one director Make all 3 movies.
Absolutely unsurprising that the rising narrative im seeing from some is that if a critic liked TLJ then "of course they dislike ROS, they're a TLJ stan!"
I mean, so what is the proposal here, that only people who disliked TLJ can criticize ROS? And that if you liked TLJ you are only allowed to praise ROS?
What do you think quoting a critic's positive review of TLJ is really saying and adding to the conversation.
I mean, so what is the proposal here, that only people who disliked TLJ can criticize ROS? And that if you liked TLJ you are only allowed to praise ROS?
What do you think quoting a critic's positive review of TLJ is really saying and adding to the conversation.