People were literally jumping out of their seats screaming and running in aisles when Yoda pulled out his lightsaber on opening night of Attack of the Clones. Still the craziest thing I've ever seen (the reaction, not Yoda flubbering everywhere).
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The Rise of Skywalker (2019) social media impressions
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People were literally jumping out of their seats screaming and running in aisles when Yoda pulled out his lightsaber on opening night of Attack of the Clones. Still the craziest thing I've ever seen (the reaction, not Yoda flubbering everywhere).
Ironically enough, your post is exactly the first lesson Luke was trying to teach Rey. The Force doesn't belong to the Jedi. Having a connection to the Force isn't the sole purview of the Jedi.
Even Yoda says this in Empire, and Obi-Wan in A New Hope. The Force resides in all matter, and in between all matter. And some people have an affinity for accessing it compared to others. The Jedi were specifically looking for people that showed a high affinity for connecting with the Force.
Han doesn't connect with the Force not because he can't, but because he has no interest or desire to try. Luke fails to lift his X-Wing out of the swamp, not because he can't, but because he doesn't think he can do it. So no, Han couldn't have become a Jedi specifically, but he's still a part of the Force, and possibly had Force potential if he was open enough to tap into it and let it flow through him.
Being a Jedi or Sith isn't the sole purpose of the Force. What Luke was teaching Rey (and the audience, who also share her misunderstanding that only Jedi and Sith can wield the Force), is the Force is more than just the Jedi, Sith, and lifting rocks. Though Rian humorously has her lifting a shit ton of rocks at the end of the film, which I loved.
Luke wanted to end the Jedi because people's insistence that the Jedi way was the only way to resolve conflict or to engage with the Force is flawed. In a way, it parallels modern religious conflict. I was raised Christian, but it's foolish to think that it is the only path in life, or the only ethic standard by which people should live their lives and find meaning and purpose, and that those that either follow a different faith, or don't believe in any faith at all are wrong or bad people.
Luke did come to realize that the people's adulation of the Jedi and the idea of the Jedi could prove useful in galvanizing them to reach into themselves and find the strength to fight against the totalitarianism of the First Order in their own way. Much like Poe coming to realize that hopping in a ship and blowing things up isn't the only way to be a "hero," or to lead and inspire people.
You don't have to be a Jedi to access the Force. The Force is in everything. It belongs to everyone. Much like Star Wars.
Well, in TFA we learn that luke sent off in hiding and left a hidden map to find him, and when he gets found I guess he regrets leaving the map? There seems to be many levels of his character change that are never shown on screen. There isn't a version of luke in TLJ that can please the extreme haters without fixing this stuff, I suppose.
Yep! And him personally triggering Ben's turn is a lot more interesting and dramatic than Luke seeking out the Jedi temple to learn about some force secret that would help him defeat Snoke or something ha
Not surprised. Movies VII and VIII along with all of the previous 6 had a shit ton of ends all over the place. Not surprised at it being long with JJ trying to wrap everything up.
After VIII there was just sooo much still to tell it feels like they needed more than one movie to really get through it all even if that's all they had.
After VIII there was just sooo much still to tell it feels like they needed more than one movie to really get through it all even if that's all they had.
Couldn't agree more! The only situation I wouldn't like is if I miss an important line or something because of cheering, but I've never had that problem. People are just into the movie, and they'll shut up when they must!
I will never understand when someone says "TLJ doesn't respect the mythos". The entire underlining of the force, as its presented in TLJ, is an extension of Mortis.
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Oh fuck no. That shit is basic as hell and lame.
Luke in TLJ had actual character development and a meaningful arc. Fuck that Starkiller shit
not fair dude, when this is all Disney's fault. They treated this like the Marvel manufacturing belt.
Totally feel you here. I don't talk star wars much outside the movie launch windows and everytime I reengage, i hate what I see with the fans who live it 24/7
This is why I'm predisposed to be quite critical right now of the hater crowd. They are still organizing downvotes of trailers , you can tell this because the downvote ratios are very uneven and focused.mostly on official videos.
Keep in mind: that map wasn't a Golden Ticket. It wasn't a "COME FIND ME AND YOU WIN THE PRIZE: JEDI LESSONS!" map. It existed so that he could leave a path for Leia and Han to find him in the event they ever needed to track him down, without exposing them to the danger of having his location in their minds where it could be easily torn out by someone trying to find him.
It was specifically an emergency thing for his family and friends, not an invitation.
This is such a good post. The Force can't be the realm of just the Jedi and the Sith while also being generated and in all living things. Obi Wan basically describes it as part of the underpinning of the entire Galaxy. Luke is 100% right in what he says about the Force in TLJ.
Yeah you're right, whoever is on top is responsible. She probably has her share though.
Just one of the many iconic star wars moments that deserves a thrilling, emotional finale.
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what Luke does at the end of TLJ is far more impressive than that showy bullshit
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He does all of that in TLJ.
Based on the twitter responses here's a couple things I'm picking up
1. They nailed the Kylo Ren-Rey dynamic (possibly the most important part of the trilogy)
2. The Palpatine stuff is kind of of weird and feels unecessary (which I expected)
As long as 1 is true I'll be satisfied. I can live with a stupid Emperor plot.
1. They nailed the Kylo Ren-Rey dynamic (possibly the most important part of the trilogy)
2. The Palpatine stuff is kind of of weird and feels unecessary (which I expected)
As long as 1 is true I'll be satisfied. I can live with a stupid Emperor plot.
I wish there was real proper training with Rey. I wish Luke was more down to help and actually left with Rey.
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Seemed like it was used as intended then. Rey came with Chewie and the Falcon.
Well said. One of the best posts on the subject of Star Wars on Era in a LONG time.
I imagine Luke's reaction would've been fairly different if it was actually Leia or Han showing up begging Luke for help vs. some scrappy kid asking for Jedi lessons.
After rewatching TLJ and then the making of doc where Johnson explains his reasoning for Luke's finale, I think his end is fantastic and completely in character. Dude went out like a boss with one of most impressive force displays ever, helped the Resistance escape, punked Kylo, built his legend and lit the spark, then still made good on his promise to die on the island. He also went out with a massive 'light side' pacifist display, never hurting anyone, in line with Yoda's training. It's good writing, Johnson gets SW.
Luke didn't create or leave a map, he had nothing to do with it. They were pieces gathered from the archives of the empire. Kylo says they had a piece and needed the other part.
They are 100% comparable moments .
Both moments show growth and sacrifice from Lukes point of view. In RotJ Luke is throwing away his lightsaber because he believes honoring the jedi way /sacrificing his body to Palps will bring balance to the force/redeem his father. In TLJ after Luke learns of the jedi from the Prequel trilogy he is convinced that the cycle of Jedi/Sith is pointless and he wants it to end to bring true balance to the force. Lukes on that island not just cause he's sad but because he wants the jedi order to end. Both moments show Luke is willing to sacrifice his body and die for his beliefs. Luke throwing his lightsaber in both moments shows that reckless resolve.
People want to sweep the prequels under the rug but its cannon that as well intentioned as they might have been their use/solution was the wrong one.
i want the 3 new protagonists (rey,finn,poe) to get the screen time and storylines they deserve in their trilogy!!!
(from impressions, it looks they did)
they were introduced in the force awakens in a good way but in the last jedi they were lost (finn, poe were in bad storylines. rey was babysitting moping luke....)
So everyone already knew which planet he was on, they just didn't know where the planet was?
You can't have proper training for the time frame set by Rian. Probably his biggest mistake was making the whole escape a two day thing. Setting a limit on himself like that.
Luke ends up helping.
Why does she need training? She's pretty much as good as Luke. I guess he could have taught her that sweet force projection move. I hope she uses it in RoS.
Now you're just making shit up, or you didn't pay attention at all during TFA. People thought Luke went to the first Jedi temple and there were several pieces of a map that led to that planet which either the Resistance or The First Order held. Luke didn't leave anything, he didn't want to be found.
I just plain forgot. If Luke didn't want to be found at all, that makes his reaction to Rey make even more sense.
Yeah but she doesn't understand it all. Luke could have helped her. The whole few days where she begs him could have been used for better things. Instead of tossing the saber, imagine him saying where did you find this? And we go from there..............
It would've made no sense for him to be completely open to training a total stranger without any hesitation after what happened the last time he tried training people.
I can understand that with all the misinformation people spread about the movies just so that information fits their opinion.
She returned his Saber to him, and he just tossed it. That whole scene was wrong. Should have been "Where did you get this, who are you," "Leia Sent me" and gone from there.
The "rumor" to where Luke was, according to Han in TFA, was that he went "looking for the first Jedi temple". I think the assumption is that people know specifics but not where it's located.
But there is no indication or evidence whatsoever that Luke left any map, especially since Kylo/FO have part of it.
Death of the author and all that, but JJ specifically confirms that the map comes from the archives of the empire in an interview.