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The Rise of Skywalker (2019) social media impressions
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Can't say I'm ever swayed by initial twitter impressions. Just feels a bit... bought?
Give me some cynical bastard sinking their teeth into this thing.
Hype is rising though.
Give me some cynical bastard sinking their teeth into this thing.
Hype is rising though.
So I was seeing tweets that weren't necessarily all glowing like that, which makes me think that if the paid social media impressions are already showing divides then this movie is going to be divisive as well.
BECAUSE THE REAL STAR WARS ARE THE WARS WE FIGHT AMONGST OURSELVES!
Yeah I'm sure JJ just directs movies based on what people write on twitter. Not like he had a plan for three movies that Johnson threw in the garbage, and which he then had to salvage or anything.
TLJ set up a third film perfectly, if it fumbles it's not on Rian.
Also JJ is pretty much always weak with endings...
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VERY COOL YOU GUYS. I can't help but think of this:
you are doing a mistake believing that the last jedi is disliked because women or minorities.
those toxic antiwomen groups existed before (the force awakens with marysue, rogue one with snowflake one etc)
having bad storylines with women gave them more of a voice as general population disliked/divisive with the movie as well.
imo this is one of the biggest last jedi failings.
people seem to think Rian Johnson took Star Wars to some whole new level, where JJ keeps it Star Wars.
I still don't know what the fuck people are talking about saying Rian did something new. He did nothing new.
It's almost like the only purpose the
new republic served was to mirror alderaan in A New Hope and to get the sequel trilogy to have almost the same, boring, status quo as the OT.
The Rian hate in here... lmao, stay salty. He dropped Knives Out and it was one of the best movies of the year.
Can't wait to see TROS.
Can't wait to see TROS.
"This really needed to be 2/3/9 movies" talking points, for this or any movie, are dumb. If a movie is stuffed with too much plot, then write less plot.
that said, "too much plot" is usually not an issue for me with franchises I'm already in the tank for. People said the same thing about The Dark Knight Rises and Endgame, didn't bother me at all.
that said, "too much plot" is usually not an issue for me with franchises I'm already in the tank for. People said the same thing about The Dark Knight Rises and Endgame, didn't bother me at all.
No but really it's the people who like TLJ that are the toxic ones we swear!
Maybe they'd stop calling them kids movies if you stopped acting like children.
We are talking about a franchise where people convince themselves that Revenge of the Sith and The Last Jedi are actually good movies.
It won't matter in the end.
I remember Justice League being shit on, but that's about it.
BvS was praised, then the reviews dropped...
I wonder if those that are saying it undoes TLJ are people who misread the themes and still think TLJ is about letting the past die.
As for fan service, I mean, yes? It's ending a trilogy of trilogies.
Modern film discourse is fucking stupid.
As for fan service, I mean, yes? It's ending a trilogy of trilogies.
Modern film discourse is fucking stupid.
These impressions aren't nearly as positive as I would have expected. Here are some worrying ones:
Its remarking at fanatical TLJ fans that want things to be binary. Rey parentage for instance, it cant be anything else but nobodies. The past cant be anything of significance. Skywalker name doesnt hold any value etc. If your cool with both movies, i assume you'll be fond of TRoS.
I'm with you. I remember the social media impression thread as being overwhelmingly positive as well. The review thread wasn't, but social media impressions were hugely positive.
BvS's original impressions were almost all fans. A lot of the Rise of Skywalker impressions are from actual critics.
I'm actually intrigued by the idea that the movie is undoing TLJ, not because I want that to happen necessarily, but more because I'm curious how that would even work short of, like, resurrecting Snoke. However, the idea that Abrams was going to "course correct" after TLJ was a narrative people have been building the moment he came back, so it could just be confirmation bias.
With all that said, it definitely sounds like this has too much going on and either needed to be longer or have a more merciless editor.
With all that said, it definitely sounds like this has too much going on and either needed to be longer or have a more merciless editor.
This is the only good post in the thread.
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Non-stop action was a big worry of mine with JJ returning. It's just his style. And one of the primary reasons why I prefer Johnson as a director and TLJ as a movie. Scenes breathe and the movie isn't constantly racing from one problem or action scene to another.
Good to know you are aware of my interests.
Get outta here with that lmao
The main difference is that Rian understands how to address underlying themes and JJ only seems to understand action. It's a running thread across his entire filmography. Fun to watch but there's nothing underneath.
Which I guess is what some people want out of Star Wars.
This idea that the general population disliked TLJ as some kind of equal split is nuts.
Amazon UK reviews
Amazon US reviews
Amazon Prime reviews (extended)
Amazon Prim reviews (theatrical)
IMDB
Metacritic and RT have been review bombed to hell (RT even stated it was obvious trolling), and there's even some breakdowns regarding this such as this article.
That article also contains the following data:
comScore surveys almost a thousand audience members in 20 markets immediately after they view the film, including The Last Jedi. So, while Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic showed audience scores in the 50s or lower, comScore showed a score almost at 90 which was in line with both The Force Awakens and Rogue One. comScore was kind enough to allow me to provide you with some of their exit polling data on these three films:
It also contains a lot of other useful info.
The film received critical acclaim and has decent user scores where it hasn't been bombed.
These movies are very much aimed at a broad audience which includes children. I don't take offense to people calling them children's films. I mean selling toys is a major part of all of them. I do think it is very silly to think that TLJ was a grown up film lol. It's the same as all the others in content, cheesy jokes and cute little creatures. I think it's a narrative mess and had a bad plot but I think that with the prequels too. I think TLJ is the 3rd worst SW film and only PM and Clone Wars are lesser products.
Those positive BvS social impressions came from average joes at a fan screening. It wasn't even from the usual film blog circuit people, like the ones in this thread.
is it agains the law to dislike the last jedi? or only bad persons dislike it according to your "estimate"?
Must mean FinnPoe is back on the menu ... because Reylo is anything but low key. ;]
These reaction threads and even review threads for Star Wars will never be reliable for me personally. As someone who enjoyed the prequels as a kid and still do to this day, I know that reviews tend to have an agenda. I didn't hate TLJ but it was one of my least favorites, yet on rotten tomatoes it sits at a 91%.
Yeah, Knives Out is great. People should see it. Doesn't change the fact that a lot of people thought TLJ was utter garbage. I've never seen saltier people than those who feel like they need to defend the honor of a movie/director. It's pathetic.
It's more like if your number one takeaway from this movie is "TLJ fans are gonna be mad and that's good", you have a problem. No one should be WISHING for other people to be unhappy. The best case scenario here would've been a movie that made both groups of people happy.
I'm between the few that loved how some things were answered in TLJ. I really, really hope that Rey's still a nobody.
Yep, it's 100% JJ Abrams style
Yep, it's 100% JJ Abrams style